What is the proper social signal SEO strategy right now?

Mang, it's not cool to troll people in the Newbie section. But you just don't have an idea. You have no clue what is going on and what you are doing and what you are going to do and what you should do.

Your questions and ideas belong to WaFo or BHW, not to WF. Your mindset is screwed. But you came here, and this is a damn right place.

This is what you should do right now:

Throw all your courses, videos, ebooks, WSO's, softwares to trash.
Take a week off. Literally off.
Read everything that is here in the Enlightened section.
And then, hopefully, you will get a right mindset.
Then try it, and ask questions - but this time they will be right questions, not about Senuke and PR4.

Good luck.


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Ditto what golan said. ^

Go ahead and try what you have read in those videos, courses and ebooks. More than likely you will fail, but you will learn. The reason so many people fail is because they think all that crap works, then they try it and fail and give up. The stuff you find in the Enlightened section here is very valuable, it works. Many people have came here from those other forums to finally see the light, and finally make some money.
 
Lol this thread.

If you want to rank, just copy what your competitors are doing, actually here's a crazy thought, try to just do a better job than them

There is also a ton of great advice in the enlightened section on how to be a little more scientific with search.
 
The idea is, I rank for this product, and make maybe 3 to 4 sales a month, and just make like 150 dollars a month from this product and move onto another one. After a while you've got an actual budget to use to attack maybe 500 dollar a month niches with more PR sites or whatever, and then you just keep going.

As far as I know, once you're ranked, it doesn't take much to maintain those rankings, as long as there isn't a huge Google update or something.

I'm sure I'm not going to make more than 300 dollars a month for this product and the terms I'm trying to rank for. At the same time, I don't think it'll take much to rank in, just so far I've done a terrible job of link building and bought a package I probably shouldn't have. But yep, I'm just riding the bicycle.

Maybe you're right, maybe I'll realize later it's a much better strategy to just do PPC or something else, but for now I just want to try to rank and see what happens - see what it takes, see how much traffic I get, money I make, etc.



With that being said, I'm trying to figure out what my link building strategy should be - I really don't think it's that hard. I'm concerned that if I buy domains, though, for some reason my PR 4s might have worse links and less link juice strength than someone else's PR 4s. Or whatever.

Or if I should do something besides just drip feed PR 4/5s once a week for 5 weeks in terms of link building for this tiny niche. But maybe not. I should probably just take action and I guess I will.

You said any form of automated link building is basically spammy - but idk. Yeah, call me an idiot for reading source wave, but in Becker's guide to authority SEO he talks about using SeNuke XCR.

"Also before you ask “isn’t automated link building dangerous?”. A tool is only as effective as its owner. If you give a 12 year old a ak-47, the results will be quite different than if you gave a navy seal one.

Automated tool are extremely safe IF you use them the right way."

That guide was probably made ages ago and is probably invalid but idk. I guess the idea makes sense that basically any automated links are spammy, but I'm not sure its correct that they can't work in the foundation of an authority site.

#1 SeNuke = SE stands for search engine, and Nuke = "attack or destroy with nuclear weapons". A software called Search Engine Nuke is designed for spamming, I mean just the name alone should tell you what's going on. Stating that "you are not sure it is correct or can't work to create an authority sites with spam" (something which you have no experience in except reading from SEO courses) - that just shows your lack of understanding of what's about to happen with your SEO adventure. You will be essentially creating a sandcastle on the beach, and eventually the ocean will come and claim it, leaving you with nothing - but you will learn a lesson.

You have to first figure out if you want a long term asset (website) or short term, then go from there. Spam and non-spam both have their uses.

#2 To go off of what Golan said, your thread title "What is the proper social signal SEO strategy right now?" is the equivalent of stating "What temperature should I bake ice cream at?"

Technically can you bake ice cream? Yes you can put it into an oven, but that shit will not only melt, but will boil and evaporate, defeating the purpose of ice cream. But no one in their right mind is baking ice cream.

#3 - I'm not saying SEO is not for you or doesn't work, in fact I own an SEO reverse engineering tool (see signature below), but what you are trying to do and how you are approaching it - it's just not going to work out the way you want it to.

Just from the affiliate side alone, simply ranking for a brand's name and making 3-4 sales a month with the way you are attempting to rank is going to take you negative in terms of ROI. As well, if you are only bringing in 3-4 sales a month and are simply ranking for the vendor's brand name - what end benefit are you providing to that vendor? What would stop them from simply banning you from their program since you are not providing any positive benefit and just taking money they would have had already, since it's their brand name you are ranking for? And if it's THAT easy to rank for that vendor's brand or affiliate keyword - wouldn't that tell you that there might be a volume problem or something off about that offer?

You see the problem your whole strategy is screwed up, it's the wrong thinking, you can definitely go down that route, but you'll be forever making weak dollar amounts and spending tons of resources to achieve things which can be achieved faster with less work if you take the advice of people in this thread.

#4 - Not to beat a dead horse, but if what Alex Becker and the SEO courses taught you was so great and wonderful - why aren't you ranking? Clearly there is something wrong.

#5 - Look at the amount of people attempting to reply in this thread to help you - then look at the newbie section as a whole and see the other threads in here and their participation level (usually 1-2 replies max), this thread's level of help is uncanny, so that alone should tell you that you are doing something philosophically incorrect that goes against what your REAL end goal is - making money. People are trying to tell you that you are asking the wrong questions - hence going down the wrong path, cause we've all seen this scenario play out again, a thousand times over and over.

If you continue down this route, promise me to come back a year from now and read this thread and comment on what you've learned since.​
 
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This thread is a classic example of someone who has already made up their mind about what they're going to do, but just wants reaffirmation from someone else that has "made it."

I don't really think any amount of good advice would keep this guy from doing whatever he was going to do in the first place.
 
#1 SeNuke = SE stands for search engine, and Nuke = "attack or destroy with nuclear weapons". A software called Search Engine Nuke is designed for spamming, I mean just the name alone should tell you what's going on. Stating that "you are not sure it is correct or can't work to create an authority sites with spam" (something which you have no experience in except reading from SEO courses) - that just shows your lack of understanding of what's about to happen with your SEO adventure. You will be essentially creating a sandcastle on the beach, and eventually the ocean will come and claim it, leaving you with nothing - but you will learn a lesson.


Okay, fair enough. That's a good point.

#2 To go off of what Golan said, your thread title "What is the proper social signal SEO strategy right now?" is the equivalent of stating "What temperature should I bake ice cream at?"


Yeah... in retrospect, I probably should've asked about a link campaign in general and not social stuff. Based on what I've learned from this thread it's probably mostly irrelevant. Gonna test tho.


Just from the affiliate side alone, simply ranking for a brand's name and making 3-4 sales a month with the way you are attempting to rank is going to take you negative in terms of ROI. As well, if you are only bringing in 3-4 sales a month and are simply ranking for the vendor's brand name - what end benefit are you providing to that vendor? What would stop them from simply banning you from their program since you are not providing any positive benefit and just taking money they would have had already, since it's their brand name you are ranking for? And if it's THAT easy to rank for that vendor's brand or affiliate keyword - wouldn't that tell you that there might be a volume problem or something off about that offer?

I don't think it goes negative. If you spend 500 dollars on a PBN, and then only use it for 5 niches that make you 100 dollars the first month, you've just broke even, and those seem like pretty reasonable numbers to me.

I guess you're mostly right - there's little value offered to the vendor besides a positive review in the search engine. The value offered to the buyer is just a genuine review. Maybe some vendors would kick you out, but most probably won't care, and also they can't kick you off clickbank. :p If you did succeed, and then they kicked you off, you could also just change the site to promote an alternative product instead - and now you're ranking for their review search, and you have a negative review, offering a competitor's product. Still profitable.

#4 - Not to beat a dead horse, but if what Alex Becker and the SEO courses taught you was so great and wonderful - why aren't you ranking? Clearly there is something wrong.

I'm not ranking cuz I basically just started SEO 2 or 3 months ago. I've only even tried to rank one site and did a terrible job of following the advice I was given. Gonna try again probably with a new domain to reset my link profile.

#5 - Look at the amount of people attempting to reply in this thread to help you - then look at the newbie section as a whole and see the other threads in here and their participation level (usually 1-2 replies max), this thread's level of help is uncanny, so that alone should tell you that you are doing something philosophically incorrect that goes against what your REAL end goal is - making money. People are trying to tell you that you are asking the wrong questions - hence going down the wrong path, cause we've all seen this scenario play out again, a thousand times over and over.

You're probably right, again - building an authority site, or a bigger niche site, is probably a much more profitable method than just building tiny affiliate review sites. You can create an email list and build your own products or do whatever the hell you want. It just makes sense to me to transition into that slowly - start by learning how to rank first, and have a small budget before you try to go after big terms, build a brand, build a list, etc.

If you continue down this route, promise me to come back a year from now and read this thread and comment on what you've learned since.

Will do. :D
This thread is a classic example of someone who has already made up their mind about what they're going to do, but just wants reaffirmation from someone else that has "made it."

I don't really think any amount of good advice would keep this guy from doing whatever he was going to do in the first place.

Yeah... I guess that's sort of true. I basically sort of had a plan going into this. This thread has been pretty insightful though.
 
You original question should have been plural because there are many, but I think providing the net good solid content that you would want to look at yourself is universal rule to quality content marketing. If you have enough quality content out there connecting your site with others you'll rank for sure. Time and persistence my friend.
 
This thread is a classic example of someone who has already made up their mind about what they're going to do, but just wants reaffirmation from someone else that has "made it."

I don't really think any amount of good advice would keep this guy from doing whatever he was going to do in the first place.
This, no matter what you tell him he will still go ahead. Its like trying to change someones political opinion its not possible.
 
Social signals are important but they are in off-page seo. I think first you need to focus on "inside" of your website. For example start with your page speed. Use CDN, decrease your load time globally. I found a CDN video, watch this and use it: youtube.com/watch?v=_4COWL7oNSw