What Happened To This Site?

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Jon shows up after years of not giving a shit about this place.

Makes forum paid to play, locking all content WF members offered up for free.

Disappears again without implementing any changes before the paywall.


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Jon shows up after years of not giving a shit about this place.

Makes forum paid to play, locking all content WF members offered up for free.

Disappears again without implementing any changes before the paywall.


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Nothing Against Jon, it's his site, his rules, I have learned a lot here but I won't pay til I see some kind of product or new things coming out, that reasons why I am paying. It's like paying for something I don't have yet. I know another forum that started the paying implementation, and the changes were immediate after few days, from forum updates, to products to learning, so lets see.
 
FFS Jon, you're better than this. At least make an effort to provide some new, high quality content for free before turning on the paid section. It's basic shit: you whet the appetite of readers with some good quality posts, get them excited, and then in the last peice of free content you invite them to the premium section. Think CCarter quality posts, but with a buy button at the end. It would have been an easy sell, tons of people here have been longterm members and love this place. Instead you've pissed everyone off by turning up out of the blue and saying things are going paid, and then actually making no changes at all before turning on the paywall. I mean, what the fuck did you expect would happen? And to make matters worse, you managed to piss off what few moderators and old timers you had left by accusing them of leaving, while you yourself had been the most notable absentee.

Following on to this, cost isn't the issue as to what am I getting out of this today? I'm sure in 2 years it could be great but you have to build up your content/services to justify any kind of value. I pay for knowledge in the form of newsletters every month which is probably what this should have been instead. Take the best posts, add commentary, and private forum to articulate ideas, and your done. Instead we're left with the ability to read user generated content that was contributed for "sharing", not a paywall and the future promise of more. Since "more" is really unknown and has to be sold as "value added content/services", how many months will that take? Anybody who's been around for awhile doesn't want to see WF fail but it's happened before when disruption occurs (aka Digg), say bye bye to your audience.

Very few paywalls actually have worked in the first place, but nobody was paying any writers here to justify the monthly costs. It's been a few weeks now since the switch was flipped and it's obvious even on this msg forum it's kind of dead.
 
Why does everyone bring up the enlightened? Are you people serious - or so fucking behind and bad at anything related to Internet that you think that section has.. anything.

No offense to Carter WHATSOEVER, he knows I love him - but every time someone brings up "traffic leaks" to me in Skype, it's annoying. Like, no, dumb faggot, it used to be called manual blog commenting and forum posting 8 years ago, he just named it something else so your dumb ass will believe the repackaging and love him.

I don't know what you noobs find useful in there - when someone puts up a list of wholesalers/dropshippers who don't take your money first and tell you "SORRY SIR YOU NEED US BANK ACCOUNT TO SELL OUR GARBAGE" - then I'll find a use for it. You can have my access if you want.

If you're going to complain - complain about not wanting to pay for stuff you didn't have to pay for before, don't tell me there's "value" in that section, it's not even a funny joke.

PS - what kind of "unique magical content" are you people expecting for 50 bucks a month? Are you people Warriors? In which case - I completely get the "enlightened section" issue. I wouldn't share shit with any of you after all the "support and help and being fucked in JVs" I got here for 50k a person - you think paying 50 bucks a month will get you insider info? Change your expectations to something more in the realm of reality.
 
I don't know Jon and have probably never even had an exchange with the guy that I can remember, and because of that, I recognize that this could be a big ass ripoff scam for all I know.

With that having been said, it's like 50 bucks a month or something stupid, and I figure I'll give it a few months and see what happens. As much as I've gotten from the relationships I've made through this forum, it's the least I can do.
 
PS - what kind of "unique magical content" are you people expecting for 50 bucks a month? Are you people Warriors? In which case - I completely get the "enlightened section" issue. I wouldn't share shit with any of you after all the "support and help and being fucked in JVs" I got here for 50k a person - you think paying 50 bucks a month will get you insider info? Change your expectations to something more in the realm of reality.

Any half decent businessman wouldn't waste $50 for nothing just because they can afford to spend $50 on something.
 
Any half decent businessman wouldn't waste $50 for nothing just because they can afford to spend $50 on something.

You statement is true, however he did not imply that the information behind paid access was nothing.
 
PS - what kind of "unique magical content" are you people expecting for 50 bucks a month? Are you people Warriors? In which case - I completely get the "enlightened section" issue. I wouldn't share shit with any of you after all the "support and help and being fucked in JVs" I got here for 50k a person - you think paying 50 bucks a month will get you insider info? Change your expectations to something more in the realm of reality.

To Quote Jon...
...the point of the private sectioned off areas are to divulge full detail.. outting is preferred.. (not of your gay best friend kinda outting).

Are you calling Jon a liar?
 
Why does everyone bring up the enlightened?

I just find some of the threads in there inspiring, and it's sure as fuck better than anything being shared anywhere else. It does have some decent info I think, but I do agree that some threads are outdated.

With regards to what I'm expecting for 50 a month, I have no idea because I haven't seen any changes.

All I know is that it's going to take some time for them to be implemented.
 
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