What do you ask of your affiliate managers?

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So I'm relatively new to Affiliate marketing. Played around with arbi for about a month or two since joining WF, but decided its probably better to stick to something more sustainable on a long term basis.

I know affiliate managers don't like to waste time with the noobs since they their super affiliates to take care of. So what kind of questions and support can someone at my level expect from an affiliate manager? Would it be reasonable to ask an AM to check out you landing page and for a few pointers, to ask what offers are currently converting well, which offers aren't overpromoted etc, or do they usually reserve this kind of information for their top affiliates?
 


Are you afraid they will laugh at you? Just fucking ask man. If they do laugh, earn some more money until they take notice of you. And then dunk on their face.
 
Just ask, some AM's will be more helpful than others regardless of what youre earning. If your AM isnt helpful enough ask for a new one, or find a new network.
 
Or you could join an indpendent affiliate program (vs network) and speak directly with a dedicated responsive helpful AM.:D
 
Agreed, some *might* ignore you and only spend time on their top performers but they shouldn't work that way.
 
If they ignore they are an ass and dump that network.

ALWAYS talk to your AM.asking them to check out a landing page or a blog post or paragraph you wrote about an offer is EXACTLY what you should be asking them. That and hey - I am making $12 a day running this offer here like this. What can i do to turn that into $120 a day and what other offers would you suggest to try in the same spot?

Thats what they are there for. If all you ever say to them is 'When will i get paid?' and 'How do i make monies with this internet thing?' - you get boring fast... Asking about landing pages is what AM's often love to talk about.

Tell them what you are doing and what you need help with. So many publishers make the mistake of being secretive. Like if you tell them then the whole world will find out about how you are making $37 a day selling hair implants to bald guys... Your secret is safe with us.
 
I agree with the whole not being tight liped approach. AM's hear "how do I make more money?" all the time and when you ask for help but are unwilling to share techniques you're just going to get blown off.

You also might want to find the greenest AM at whatever network you are working with. If you yourself are relatively new to the game you may not be a priority for an AM with piles of big earners. New AM's are hungry and will make you their priority. Even if they don't know the answers to some of your questions, they will use those meetings with their more experienced colleagues to look at and evaluate your questions. Ultimately you will get both the attention and experienced advice you are looking for.
 
I agree with the whole not being tight liped approach. AM's hear "how do I make more money?" all the time and when you ask for help but are unwilling to share techniques you're just going to get blown off.

You also might want to find the greenest AM at whatever network you are working with. If you yourself are relatively new to the game you may not be a priority for an AM with piles of big earners. New AM's are hungry and will make you their priority. Even if they don't know the answers to some of your questions, they will use those meetings with their more experienced colleagues to look at and evaluate your questions. Ultimately you will get both the attention and experienced advice you are looking for.
 
I've only signed up with two networks, but I haven't found much help with Affiliate managers. I hear most networks pair up newer affiliate managers with the affiliates who earn the least to give them practice. Makes sense on their end, but it kind of fucks me when I say "hey, can you criticize my new landing page for me" and they say "LOOKS GOOD!" and I end up sending a ton of traffic to it and no one even clicks through to the offer page because my landing page eats ass and my AM told me it looked good so I would leave him/her alone.

I guess I need to sign up with COPEAC!
 
There is a network I used to work for and some of their top affiliates started out earning like $10 month using a geocities website. Now those same affiliates are on 6 figures a month.

Good AMs know that this is a possibility.

Therefore most good ones will be very helpful.
 
How helpful can they really be? Shouldn't this be your job to bring THEM revenue? First of all, you are "approved" to be their affiliate. If they knew so much, wouldn't they do it on their own? Why would they look for affiliates?

They aren't going to find keywords for you, they aren't going to SEO your website. These are the important things that you need to know in this business to be successful.

There are AM's that do go out of their way, but you should know what you're doing. Just keep learning, that's what these forums are for, if you want to be on top you have to do it yourself, nobody is going to give you a winning lotto ticket.
 
Yeah, but still- they have a lot more data than us and they know what's converting for people and what's hot. They've seen enough landing pages to know what will probably work and what will definitely not. They also know if offers are converting better from landing pages or direct traffic to the offer.

Keywords and SEO are the easy part, just use your imagination/ brain and some free tools online, then once you find a winning campaign, use your data to guide you. Whitehat SEO can be learned in 10 minutes if you have common sense.

And I have to disagree with them doing it on their own. A lot of the people at the tops of these networks started out as Affiliates and are very good at it. Would you rather be busting your ass finding keywords and risking your money to make a profit for yourself and more for everyone else, or would you rather get a cut of all your affiliates revenue whether they make a profit or not?

You shouldn't be a dumbass and think you can do this, but if I was an AM, I would be in the whole "teach a man to fish" mindset. 90+% of these guys started from nothing and became successful. Like someone said above, AM's know this and have seen this, so they should help as much as they can. Just like staying with your lady who was with you before you had money... Getting respect from an AM when you're making $10 a day is going to make you very loyal to them when you're making 2,000 a day or more.
 
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What "data" are you talking about, can you elaborate?

I still don't believe that if my AM could be making more money doing my job, that he would wake up to an alarm clock. Sorry that just doesn't make sense to me.

SEO is not the easy part, if it was Google wouldn't have an algorithim and everybody would be on the 1st page.

Would you rather be busting your ass finding keywords and risking your money to make a profit for yourself and more for everyone else, or would you rather get a cut of all your affiliates revenue whether they make a profit or not?
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That doesn't make any sense, why would I be risking anything if I knew what I was doing?

I think the job of an AM is to let you know what new offers are converting for all the other affiliates on your network. Let you know about rules and what-not, etc.. You don't need an AM to critique your landing page, you can check your page rank for free. An AM isn't going to code your landing page, if it sucks, it sucks, go try again. That's all they can say. If you know how to optimize your landing page for a search engine, then you know what you're doing. If you don't, well you don't, and nobody is going to tell you how to.


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Yeah, but still- they have a lot more data than us and they know what's converting for people and what's hot. They've seen enough landing pages to know what will probably work and what will definitely not. They also know if offers are converting better from landing pages or direct traffic to the offer.

Keywords and SEO are the easy part, just use your imagination/ brain and some free tools online, then once you find a winning campaign, use your data to guide you. Whitehat SEO can be learned in 10 minutes if you have common sense.

And I have to disagree with them doing it on their own. A lot of the people at the tops of these networks started out as Affiliates and are very good at it. Would you rather be busting your ass finding keywords and risking your money to make a profit for yourself and more for everyone else, or would you rather get a cut of all your affiliates revenue whether they make a profit or not?

You shouldn't be a dumbass and think you can do this, but if I was an AM, I would be in the whole "teach a man to fish" mindset. 90+% of these guys started from nothing and became successful. Like someone said above, AM's know this and have seen this, so they should help as much as they can. Just like staying with your lady who was with you before you had money... Getting respect from an AM when you're making $10 a day is going to make you very loyal to them when you're making 2,000 a day or more.
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All I'm trying to say is understand what you're doing on your own instead of being a baby trying to get breast fed.

Trust me, I've gotten lucky with where I'm at right now which is chump change, but I don't forget the reality of where I'm at and where I want to be.
 
Honestly, I'm drunk and just trying to argue. I don't really give a fuck. Ask your AM for a blowjob for all I care.
 
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All I'm trying to say is understand what you're doing on your own instead of being a baby trying to get breast fed.

Trust me, I've gotten lucky with where I'm at right now which is chump change, but I don't forget the reality of where I'm at and where I want to be.
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Well all I can really say to that is that when I was an AM, the affiliates who called me and asked for help got full page/site critiques with SEO and PPC advice. It took me hours in some cases to get together a report for them and one or two big affiliates I spent days on every month.

The ones who listened to me and implemented the chamges I suggested generally improved their earnings by 30% and some doubled them.

So call your AM. Don't call your AM. Either way makes no difference to me, but I know which one I'd be doing.
 
Once they know everything like you do, I'm sure they get to a point where the AM is less useful for help. The original poster said he was relatively new to Affiliate Marketing. I'm not all that new, but I don't mind free advice.

And I'm not saying they have a lot of data that we can't get our hands on, but they do have a shit load more data about what's converting and how well it's converting as a whole. They also have several affiliates they manage and they talk to a lot of them and know how they're pushing so many leads.

Affiliate Managers aren't going to hold your hand or teach you a class, but good ones can be good for advice and should be able to point you in the right direction.
 
just ask, it was asking my AM what offers were performing better and some suggestions for a landing page that I got my first conversions
 
What everyone else just said is true, don't be a fucking pussy and just ask,

I mean shit, If you don't ask how would they know what the fuck you need?

I just wrote a blog post about this before and just saw this now,

Kinda weird , but whatever
 
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