Trump for US President?

Oh... and the reason why he's really doing this?

He's at risk of losing his position as a member of our ruling class. It's been discussed and his level of respectability along with any ability to deliver on his obligations as a member within the "getting shit done" level has been rejected and demoted countless times. He's now pulling out all the stops as a last ditch 'hail mary' tactic yet again, but it looks like he may actually pull it off. He knows his chances at winning the highest office in the land are slim at best. But he doesn't want that kind of responsibility anyway, he just wants to guarantee his legacy in the American ruling class of high society for himself and his children, and he's going to get it by the time all of this is over.
 


He is not a straight shooter. LOL!!!

So you don't agree with everything he's proposing, but you're justifying a vote for him as a good thing because he's never held political office before and... (sorry but I was laughing at this one) he "knows how to make money and understands our country."

Sir, you need to look at this thing called "shit someone did previously" also known as history or a track record, do a lil bit more digging on the topic, and then reformulate an objective opinion over someone that is telling you what you may want to hear in a shitty way and loudly so that you forget to be objective or apply critical thinking in the first place.

Donald Trump is not self made. His father and family are wealthy. They were deep rooted here in NYC and both well known and well respected for building residential housing developments in most of the boroughs of NYC (we have five of those). Manhattan is something young Donald decided to take on as his own bold move project that his entire family objected against but figured, it's the early 80's, our family doesn't fail, how bad could it be? --- Until the crash in 1989... Oh, and let's not forget the casinos and ruthless gentrification real estate deals he forged in NJ to get those casinos built on the cheap. He went and raised aka borrowed a fuckton of cash based on his killer credit (of his family) and also borrowed on their behalf claiming to have piles of cash he was making from his other business ventures (all of which had been subsidized and artificially inflated with more loans). -- So, 1989 crash happens. Trump magically begins to feel the squeeze, cannot make payments because heh, funny enough, it turns out loans are not things that make revenue when you get them, they are things that COST you money... ohhhhhh, well shit! Young Donald claims to not have known that! By God, who the fuck should ever be trusted with anything again if they think it's opposite day in the lending arena? Anyway, so Trump cries a bunch and defaults, tries to keep it quiet, fails hard, gets divorced, borrows more money to try for an extension on his debt obligations and goes the hail mary way of doing business, fakes it till ya makes it! And fails again. Now he's billions of dollars in debt, and apparently having his wife run The Trump Casino empire was not such a smart idea after all, and becomes one of the most prolific and first people in this fine country to FAIL at owning a casino that he also holds a monopoly on, and has more slots and table games than some Vegas casinos at the time... how the fuck can this be?! Can it be.... poor as shit management skills?? Can it be... that he doesn't have a fucking clue on how to do business, run a company at all, do anything except be loud and obnoxious?! Why yes, I believe so. And he proves it by making a reality TV show, that is anything but reality at all, so that he can hopefully trick people into believing he is this amazing business entity and smart.. but fair! Bullshit. It was all bullshit. Every bit of it, bullshit.

The Trump name is a brand. A rent-a-shell licensing entity that doesn't own anything on it's own, but will be a front for it instead. You get the name, the "management", the face, the Donald himself, and the whole network of relations too, so that you too may fake it hard until you make it, or, until you quickly sell the fuck out before it all crashes down.

Extra Credit - Remember Trump University? Take a gander at how that began, his involvement in it and then how it all magically fell apart, along with his claims at the end of it. -- It's interesting because he's tied to the same ibank that I have strong ties with too.

If you really can't find shit or just too lazy to look, go look at his Twitter history of life before this campaign.. and all of the absurd shit that guy would say and stick by. He's a fucking loud, obnoxious, lying fuck. He is not well respected or well liked by serious business people or the investment community, and certainly not by anyone in the real estate development realm of New York City. He's a fucking laughing stock. The only people that seem to take him seriously and believe him are those of the general public that may be ignorant to his historic fails of the past or the overly corrupt cable news media COMMENTARY departments (there's a huge difference between those that report on the news seriously and those that just rip it up and comment on it to look like they are reporting it, but are actually labeled as commentary/entertainment programs).

Politicians = Will propose anything and say anything -- literally ANYTHING to get votes and donations right then and there! Nearly every modern politician is a fledgling narcissist. No one gives a fuck about you or your needs. They aren't pandering to the majority, only to the electoral and parties. They seek approval and air time more so from networks than to you or me. They will fake anything they can to get 2 more mins of face time and name recognition in our 24/7 news commentary spin cycle.

Use critical thinking more often and you will see things for what they really along with people who are full of shit and lying to you. Would you ever trust something a liar tells you? If you do, I have a bridge to sell to you.

And the rest of the puppet candidates are not lying?
And the rest of them would have made more business success than Trump did?
Even with what you said that does not make Trump the worst of the candidates by any stretch.

Trump!
 
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but it's very lolful

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On a sidenote: Trump has the type of confidence that is hard to break. He always comes out on top even when you think he's in trouble at first. I don't like the guy, but I have to admit his hustling skills are up there.
 
Whenever I see Trump running for POTUS, I always figure he's trolling everyone.

Maybe I've just been on WF too long.

Same. Celebrity Apprentice must have gotten boring for him, so hell with it, he's going to run for President. Keeps him occupied, I guess.
 
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but it's very lolful

FNN: Trump Security Kicks Out Univision Reporter Jorge Ramos After He Asks a Question - YouTube

On a sidenote: Trump has the type of confidence that is hard to break. He always comes out on top even when you think he's in trouble at first. I don't like the guy, but I have to admit his hustling skills are up there.

That made me watch the whole thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0_n-LHv6Xs

What an annoying person that univision dude is... Not so smart questions, not letting Trump answer and so on.
Some fools tried to speak for him in the beginning, Trump handled them nicely.
Seriously - dude started screaming before called upon and some people try to defend him...
 
That made me watch the whole thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0_n-LHv6Xs

What an annoying person that univision dude is... Not so smart questions, not letting Trump answer and so on.
Some fools tried to speak for him in the beginning, Trump handled them nicely.
Seriously - dude started screaming before called upon and some people try to defend him...

lol yeah Trump killed that PC from beginning to end.
 
The only people that seem to take him seriously and believe him are those of the general public that may be ignorant to his historic fails of the past or the overly corrupt cable news media COMMENTARY departments (there's a huge difference between those that report on the news seriously and those that just rip it up and comment on it to look like they are reporting it, but are actually labeled as commentary/entertainment programs).

Ouch. You just owned Trumpkins like Rusvik and Charlesmartel HARD with this. They look like complete unsophisticated idiots now. At least you educated them so now they know better and won't embarrass themselves further.
 
Ouch. You just owned Trumpkins like Rusvik and Charlesmartel HARD with this. They look like complete unsophisticated idiots now. At least you educated them so now they know better and won't embarrass themselves further.

Again - even with his failures he achieved more in business than most of the other candidates can speak for.
So yeah it is easy for other candidates to not have all those Trump failures when they did not even play, or did not play at that level.

Now if all of those other candidates had better business achievements and less failures than Trump.... If not, it is like having one person who did not even start business and another who did and failed, and mock the latter for failure, forgetting that the first one did not even start.
 
*if* Trump gets a lot of support but loses race as candidate for presidency, one of other candidates that will win will need to adjust their campaigns to steal his supporters. And since he wont give them easily, the other candidate will need to meet them in the middle, so this is not a bad thing for election overall imo.
New players in elections are never a bad thing as this forces others to reconsider and try harder to win the support of common and often frustrated people.
 
Again - even with his failures he achieved more in business than most of the other candidates can speak for.
So yeah it is easy for other candidates to not have all those Trump failures when they did not even play, or did not play at that level.

Now if all of those other candidates had better business achievements and less failures than Trump.... If not, it is like having one person who did not even start business and another who did and failed, and mock the latter for failure, forgetting that the first one did not even start.

That doesn't change the fact that Trump is a bullshitting showman with poor management and business skills. If he can run a casino into the ground, why do you think he can do a better job running a country than your typical politician?

Also what business achievements bro? Trump would be nothing without his family connections. He actually has more in common with politicians than you'd care to admit.

What you're saying is a pretty pathetic and desperate defense of Trump, especially since you tacitly admit what Jon said is true. You totally drank the Kool-Aid.
 
Wasn't it back in 2008 that Fox News wouldn't shut up because Obama had too much "celebrity status"? Anyone else remember that?

But Trump's A OK. Alright, got it.
 
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Yeah sure, Trump is just popular because of reality TV and he is only running because of some beef with 'the real elite'. Who is that btw?

It has nothing to do with the disgruntled white middle class having had enough, nope, for sure not. No precedence of such a thing, not in Europe either were immigrant critical parties are skyrocketing everywhere including even in ground zero Sweden where they are now the biggest party - IN SWEDEN - the most liberal of all countries.

It could be that a lot of 'the real elite', simply are not in touch AT ALL, with the average white voter who still make up the majority.

As for BlueChinaSJW, I am beginning to suspect you have tourettes.
 
Yeah sure, Trump is just popular because of reality TV and he is only running because of some beef with 'the real elite'. Who is that btw?

It has nothing to do with the disgruntled white middle class having had enough, nope, for sure not. No precedence of such a thing, not in Europe either were immigrant critical parties are skyrocketing everywhere including even in ground zero Sweden where they are now the biggest party - IN SWEDEN - the most liberal of all countries.

It could be that a lot of 'the real elite', simply are not in touch AT ALL, with the average white voter who still make up the majority.

Ummm... is anyone else confused? I'm confused.

Ok, what makes you believe that Trump gives a shit about Joe Blow sitting in his cubicle every weekday earning $80k/year? You really believe Trump cares about our friend Joe Blow? Please don't tell me you believe that, because I've already lost enough faith in humanity. Trump cares about Trump, and that's it.

Now the really weird thing here is, Obama does actually care about our friend Joe Blow, and his actions have proven it. However, whenever he pushes a policy or agenda forward to help Joe Blow out, you guys scream socialism.

So I'm confused now. What the hell is it you're looking for?
 
Ummm... is anyone else confused? I'm confused.

Ok, what makes you believe that Trump gives a shit about Joe Blow sitting in his cubicle every weekday earning $80k/year? You really believe Trump cares about our friend Joe Blow? Please don't tell me you believe that, because I've already lost enough faith in humanity. Trump cares about Trump, and that's it.

Now the really weird thing here is, Obama does actually care about our friend Joe Blow, and his actions have proven it. However, whenever he pushes a policy or agenda forward to help Joe Blow out, you guys scream socialism.

So I'm confused now. What the hell is it you're looking for?

I've watched a couple of speeches now by Trump. I am actually not that impressed by him.

The fact that he will EASILY win repub nomination anyway is proof of something that the DC elite can't wrap their head around. That the silent majority of the US and EU countries are fed up of being sold out for cheap labor and left wing votes through immigration.

It's so painfully obvious you have to live in a bubble not to see it.

Trump is no great leader, which makes it even worse, however he is a populist, not unlike Berlusconi, ruling by popular vote, not by being 'in' with the elite which Jon speaks off.

In reality Trump will not rock the boat much, but he WILL do something about a couple of issues that the majority care about. These are immigration, lack of jobs from globalization and anti-native sentiment. These are not unique positions, they are classic populist European postions found everywhere from UKIP to Front National.

This IS the big movement of this decade. The fact that Trump can win by just being the only guy willing to take that position, shows how much it appeals to that demographic.

Does Trump care? He cares for his ego most of all probably. Unlike politicians his wealth is not dependent on political success. In order for him to satisfy his ego, he needs to win and he only wins by delivering on some populist policies.
 
@Rusvik: A few posts back you compared Trump with Putin. I suggested that Putin and the Kremlin as a whole are corrupt. You and some other Russian claimed that there's no way in hell Putin is corrupt, and that he's the best leader Russia had in decades.

I then proceed to post several articles about corruption and Putin, including an article about the suspicious murder of an anti Putin opposition leader, and you said nothing. You just acted as if I never posted anything and continued to bleat on about Trump. Says everything about you doesn't it?

Jon is right about Trump supporters lacking in the critical thinking skills department.
 
In reality Trump will not rock the boat much, but he WILL do something about a couple of issues that the majority care about. These are immigration, lack of jobs from globalization and anti-native sentiment.

Ok, so you want him to turn back the time on globalization? Okey dokey, have fun with that one. Maybe deport some illegal Mexican strawberry & lettuce pickers, and guys who shovel dirt for a living? Yep, that should definitely revitalize the economy.

This IS the big movement of this decade. The fact that Trump can win by just being the only guy willing to take that position, shows how much it appeals to that demographic.

No, actually the only thing Trump winning the nomination proves is a) how screwed up the Republican party is, and b) it ensures Hilary gets the White House.

I'll agree with Cardine on this now. Trump's a plant.

EDIT: I don't like Hilary in the slightest. Honestly, I think he's a cruel, manipulative bitch. Nonetheless, I'd much prefer her in the Whitehouse vs. Trump, simply because she has TONS of experience in world politics, dealing and negotiating with world leaders, etc. Could you imagine Trump representing the US on the world stage with his attitude? Humility is a virtue, which he quite obviously hasn't learned.