They're Both Drowning and You Can Save Only One -- Your Dog or a Stranger?

They're both drowning. Which one do you save?

  • Your Dog

    Votes: 148 60.9%
  • Stranger

    Votes: 95 39.1%

  • Total voters
    243
I don't think it's the case at all. There are plenty of dog owners capable of rational thought who would save the stranger.

Human > Dog

It's really that simple folks. The dog may be "part of your family", but that doesn't morph it into a human. It's still just a dog.

Sorry my dog wins.. If it was your dog or human,, human wins.

Now if that stranger was a child I would save the child, if you want to through that in there.

I ran this stupid thread passe my wife last night, and said stranger or dog.. she laughed.
 


Why would I save a stranger over my dog? What, just because it's a human means the life is more valuable than my dog? Fuck that.

You don't know shit about this human stranger, they could be a killer, child molester, or just an all around bad person.

My dog? My dog is none of those things. My dog protects my house, protects me, loves me, and is always happy to see me.

Just because you're human doesn't mean your life is automatically more valuable than some other animals life, there are 6 billion people on earth so you're going to have to have something better than "but I'm human" if I'm gonna choose you over my dog whom I know and love.

This guy gets it. I get so tired of that "human life is more important" nonsense.
 
Even if you don't know the human, human comes before animal. The whole "humans are separate from animals" argument, I rather say that the human should be saved first. It's a matter of suffering, really. A dog trapped in a cage that is 150% of his size will go insane. A human in that situation will not only go insane, but will also suffer the fact that he knows he will go insane before he dies.

I value human life, despite the fact that we are still just mammals, above the other animals, simply because there's a question of who will suffer less in any given situation.
 
Even if you don't know the human, human comes before animal. The whole "humans are separate from animals" argument, I rather say that the human should be saved first. It's a matter of suffering, really. A dog trapped in a cage that is 150% of his size will go insane. A human in that situation will not only go insane, but will also suffer the fact that he knows he will go insane before he dies.

I value human life, despite the fact that we are still just mammals, above the other animals, simply because there's a question of who will suffer less in any given situation.


I really hate people like you. You assume that you know everything that animals think just because you're human and that animals are always lower. I don't see them destroying the planet in the name of "progress" and murdering innocent beings just for the fun of it. Humans are no more advanced than animals. They just like to think they are.

Human: Oh yeah, I cut this tree into little boards, stuck 'em together, and made a house. Fuck yeah, I'm smarter and better than all other creatures because I learned to adapt this way! Now I'm gonna go shove my dick into another guys ass and kill this woman so I can release some endorphins.
 
I ran this stupid thread passe my wife last night, and said stranger or dog.. she laughed.

I did the same thing with Dog owners I know. Many laughed or instantly said Dog and found the whole debate completely pointless. :)
 
Animals can not distinguish from right and wrong. They can be trained, but they still don't understand the concepts.

They don't need to. Animals don't have corrupt souls like us humans do. They do what they naturally need to do to survive. You'll never see an animal kill for fun or commit suicide. They're not all fucked up like us.

I'd save my dog over a stranger, even though I wouldn't really feel justified in it. I just think that's how I would instinctively react in that scenario. But after the guilt set it, I'd probably reconcile it with myself with the reasoning that my dog would risk her life for me in a heartbeat. Can't say the same about a stranger.
 
They don't need to. Animals don't have corrupt souls like us humans do. They do what they naturally need to do to survive. You'll never see an animal kill for fun or commit suicide. They're not all fucked up like us.

I'd save my dog over a stranger, even though I wouldn't really feel justified in it. I just think that's how I would instinctively react in that scenario. But after the guilt set it, I'd probably reconcile it with myself with the reasoning that my dog would risk her life for me in a heartbeat. Can't say the same about a stranger.

My Family's German Shepherd killed our Miniature Schnauzer a few years back by grabbing it's neck, wagging the dog around, and the Schnauzer died 15 minutes after profusely bleeding from his neck wounds. They've known each other since both were very young dogs and lived together almost all their lives. Two vets said this is actually 'normal' behavior.

They even shared the same bed sometimes,

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I don't know if you're serious with the 'soul' stuff, but it's 2010. Animal behavior is a field of study, using terms like 'souls' only diminishes your own ability to see animals for what they are, creatures which rely on instinct and best effort. We still have the big dog, Mika, and love her to death... but who knows what was running through her mind when she killed RJ.

That being said, I think anyone who saves an animal over a human is a selfish individual with flawed logic.
 
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My Family's German Shepherd killed our Miniature Schnauzer a few years back by grabbing it's neck, wagging the dog around, and the Schnauzer died 15 minutes after profusely bleeding from his neck wounds. They've known each other since both were very young dogs and lived together almost all their lives. Two vets said this is actually 'normal' behavior.

Ya German Shepards are very loyal pets but still have a very high prey drive and sometimes it will kick in and it's hard to turn off. Different breeds obviously have different prey drives. My yellow lab, for instance, has virtually none. He's such a goofy, smiling (literally), fun loving dog it makes ya smile just looking at him.

Also, both dogs and humans are animals. I'd guess that there are far more cases of humans snapping and killing another human nearby than there are dogs snapping and killing a nearby human.

Occasionally I do wonder if some pets are like having retards with knives running around your house. I fear this more with my cats though. When they get scared they get seriously dangerous.
 
Re prey drive, absolutely. It's something you really have to be cognizant of when working with / owning a GSD. I find it a little weird though that you never saw any signs of aggression before with your dog, prior to this incident. Maybe not even with the schnauzer in particular, but other animals in general. I couldn't have my dog around other animals at all because you never knew when he was going to click into that mode (even if he seemed cool).
 
Re prey drive, absolutely. It's something you really have to be cognizant of when working with / owning a GSD. I find it a little weird though that you never saw any signs of aggression before with your dog, prior to this incident. Maybe not even with the schnauzer in particular, but other animals in general. I couldn't have my dog around other animals at all because you never knew when he was going to click into that mode (even if he seemed cool).

We did notice the 'prey drive', that's why we never let them out at the same time. The GSD would go in stalking mode and raise her back hair/tail but all the time she would just annoy our smaller dogs (The Schnauzer and a Yorkie). So we stopped letting them go outside in the yard at the same time a long time ago and kept them separate in the house.

One morning my dad let the GSD out and then someone else let the little dog out. My mom realized both dogs were out at the same time and went to the window, she yelled for the GSD to come back... she just stopped in her tracks, looked back at my mom and 'realized' she was too far to do anything... the GSD ran for the Schnauzer and grabbed on and started ripping into his neck... she only let go after my mom ran the entire yard and was about 15 ft from them both.

Too late for the Schnauzer at that point, best dog we ever had.
 
We did notice the 'prey drive', that's why we never let them out at the same time. The GSD would go in stalking mode and raise her back hair/tail but all the time she would just annoy our smaller dogs (The Schnauzer and a Yorkie). So we stopped letting them go outside in the yard at the same time a long time ago and kept them separate in the house.

One morning my dad let the GSD out and then someone else let the little dog out. My mom realized both dogs were out at the same time and went to the window, she yelled for the GSD to come back... she just stopped in her tracks, looked back at my mom and 'realized' she was too far to do anything... the GSD ran for the Schnauzer and grabbed on and started ripping into his neck... she only let go after my mom ran the entire yard and was about 15 ft from them both.

Too late for the Schnauzer at that point, best dog we ever had.

Gotcha. Really sorry to hear that.
 
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Even if you don't know the human, human comes before animal. The whole "humans are separate from animals" argument, I rather say that the human should be saved first. It's a matter of suffering, really. A dog trapped in a cage that is 150% of his size will go insane. A human in that situation will not only go insane, but will also suffer the fact that he knows he will go insane before he dies.

I value human life, despite the fact that we are still just mammals, above the other animals, simply because there's a question of who will suffer less in any given situation.

Ignorance is bliss.
 
I would rather deal with my own suffering from losing a pet than knowing that a child is suffering because he lost his mom, a man lost his brother, etc.
 
For 24 years of my life, I was indifferent to dogs until my sister got a puppy last year. I absolutely love this dog and without a doubt would save my dog. As other dog owners can attest to, the happiness they bring can't be matched by anyone.
 
cant the stranger just hold the dog while you grab him and pull him to safety? its not like water is quicksand....
 
Man this thread is still going.

Shoot the stranger, just blow his fucking head off...

Then save the poor doggy.

Get a net scoop in the stranger after he starts to float..

Take stranger home, grind him up for dog food..

Kill two birds with one stone.

Problem Solved.