I'm confused on Ron Paul's campaign "branding", if you will... why start this CPAC stuff? What about the Campaign For Liberty? Why not just use that organization to continue spreading the word?
The start of the Ron Paul 2012 movement
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Campaign for Liberty is a 501c4 which means they cannot official endorse any particular candidate, while a PAC can. This will probably turn into a campaign fund of sorts if he runs in 2012.
most republican candidates have been religious and haven't destroyed america; if anything, america has become increasingly less religious over time.
so your option is ron paul who may be religious but really hits the nail on the head on a lot of key issues that really make an impact on people's lives; or vote in a democrat who aren't so religious but intend on doing bullshit like expanding government as much as humanly possible.
no candidate is perfect, so it's a pick your poison sort of deal imo. BUT i do agree with you there is something fundamentally flawed with his logic if he REALLY does believe the world began 6000 years ago; I'd like to see proof that he does believe that. even then still, everything else he says makes sense; he may just say it to at least keep some idealogical grounds with republicans.
You guys can complain about the MSM all you want, but the fact remains that there is no chance Ron Paul will get elected President. You're better off donating your money to local/congressional candidates with similar values where it can actually make a difference.
Seriously, does anyone actually believe he will win? Put your money where your mouth is. I'll bet anyone any amount of money right now that Ron Paul will not be elected President in 2012. Any takers? Didn't think so.
Out of all the popular US politicians I've seen and heard, Ron Paul definitely has an aura of sincerity. I know that's a naive way of judging a candidate, but he comes off as a really authentic person. I've listened to him talk about foreign policy and he does seem to 'get it'. Why can't more US politicians adopt or propose a more isolationist policy?
Still, WF seems to be unusually pro Ron Paul. What specific policies is he proposing that makes you support him so strongly?
Still, WF seems to be unusually pro Ron Paul. What specific policies is he proposing that makes you support him so strongly?
yeah, I agree, I like Ron Paul 99% of the time. It just scares me that to connect with other popular figureheads and a disturbingly large majority of the american population, he has to (wants to?) adhere to absolutely ludicrous "science". Creationism is an insult to all progress ever made in science, and it's odd to me that such a reasonable, medically educated man would ever believe such a bullshit line of thinking.
I believe the idea of him being a creationist comes from here: Ron Paul on Education
his answer doesn't necessarily imply he's a creationist, just that he thinks other ideas from evolution should be taught in biology classes (which is also fucking infuriating, if Christians want the Flood story taught in school, get ready for some old school hindu and taoist and roman and african creation myths in science class, and at that point might as well just kill biology class altogether because it will have been sufficiently undermined anyways)
I believe that if the msm didn't do half the shady crap they did he'd have a much better chance. But I also believe that stranger things have happened, and yeh, if he could manage to win the republican primary then he would have a pretty good shot at defeating anyone they put him up against, including Obama.
I worked as part of the grassroots campaign a few years ago and talked to thousands of people. Most of the people I talked to liked him and his ideas, but the idea that was drilled into their heads by media that he was unelectable kept coming up. Yet with very little media support, and shoestring budget (at least in the beginning) he managed to get 4-5% of the vote in most states and a lot more than that in some areas.
this mentality that you have to vote for the establishment creeps went out the window with the midterm elections as tons of good people got into congress. There's no reason to believe that you have to except the establishment for president too.
Thank you my friend
What odds you givin? I'll toss a fiverr on it....
And dchuk - I'm with you, and I'm a huge evolution junkie (reading Greatest Show on Earth as we speak)... but I let it slide. It really isn't a huge deal compared to the things he fights for... like our liberty, peace, and $$$. If you want to agree with someone 100%, then you better turn 35 and start campaigning yourself. RP is the closest thing.
this is an epic quote dude, +rep
EDIT: "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Berto again."...awkward
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8"]YouTube - Ron Paul Courageously Speaks the Truth[/ame]
So frustrating to hear the guy towards the end challenge him and get applause. They still persist on this bullshit story of going to Iraq as a result of 9/11 being necessary because too many Americans are too dumb to know better. Even the US governments own reason for going into Iraq was WMD, yet they still link it to 9/11.
So frustrating to hear the guy towards the end challenge him and get applause. They still persist on this bullshit story of going to Iraq as a result of 9/11 being necessary because too many Americans are too dumb to know better. Even the US governments own reason for going into Iraq was WMD, yet they still link it to 9/11.
Ron Paul is pretty right wing when it comes to the immigration situation in this now trashed country. Seeing that I'm apart of a group that voluntarily patrols the Arizona border to hunt down this scum, he has my vote. Very strong on the immigration issue.
Unfortunately though, I dont believe in voting. I believe that these things are pre-ordained, and theres not a dam thing you or I can do to vote someone in. You really think the masses voted for obama? lol...
I feel the zionists are in control, and although they make less than 1% of the country it's their decision as to whom they feel is best for their ideals. It's this oppression which caused the uprise of WWII Germany.
Unfortunately though, I dont believe in voting. I believe that these things are pre-ordained, and theres not a dam thing you or I can do to vote someone in. You really think the masses voted for obama? lol...
I feel the zionists are in control, and although they make less than 1% of the country it's their decision as to whom they feel is best for their ideals. It's this oppression which caused the uprise of WWII Germany.
I want to believe this, I really do. I want to believe that it's the evil "lamestream" media that's controlling the masses and making them vote for establishment parties, and that maybe we'll have a viable multiparty system like almost every other civilized country in the world.
But you know in your heart that's not true. The truth is that it's not the media's fault, really. The truth is that most Americans are apathetic and stupid, and will always vote against their own best interest.
Everyone wants lower taxes and more entitlements and government programs with no idea how to pay for them, everyone wants the quick, painless fix.
Think of how many millions of acai berriez and bizopp ebooks were sold in the past few years. The same people buying all of those millions of rebills (middle America, housewives, retirees, rednecks, etc) are the ones deciding who will run this country. They don't need the media to tell them what to think, the politicians do a good enough job of that themselves.
The real problem is that younger, more tech savvy, more educated people don't vote. As a result, a hugely disproportionate amount of influence is wielded by a relatively small segment of the population: the rebill demographic.
If you're referring to the teabagger candidates, they all ran as Republicans, not a third party, on a traditional Republican platform. Seems pretty establishment to me.
I'll give you 100:1, I figure you guys think there's at least a 1% chance RP is president.
he doesn't vote based on this belief and follows separation of church and state pretty heavily. if this is your only reason for not liking him, then by all means go back to liking mike huckabee or bush or obama or whatever failure you prefer.
Dude, come on, can we have a civil discussion of politics for once without this conspiracy bullshit?
If Ron Paul chooses to associate himself with the fringe like this, his candidacy and his message are dead on arrival.
He also believes that the Dept. of Education should be abolished federally and that states should handle education since Education is not part of the constitution, so by doing this he would have 0 control over curriculum. Worrying about this is a moot point because of that.
You'd prefer Mitt Romney, the one who believes that Joseph Smith talked to God in a top hat?
He doesn't associate with them, he avoids it like the plague, they just cling to him for some reason
I think it's time now for me to shake the jar of bees:
Herman Cain - Presidential Exploratory Committee
I'll be going to bed now, discuss amongst yourselves.
Herman Cain - Presidential Exploratory Committee
I'll be going to bed now, discuss amongst yourselves.
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You can call it a conspiracy, whereas I call it reality. In my opinion, make as much $ as u can and buy guns and gold.. It's what I do, so call me crazy I dont care... lol
But in summation, people who fight the current problems in this country have my vote. People who stick their nose in foreign affairs when our country is being raped and taken advantage of from the inside out (welfare, foreigners, prisons / privileges for these people) should be convicted of treason and be shot.
But then again, maybe these thoughts are just my own nationalist ways, and are now frowned upon in this current government, riiiiiight?
But in summation, people who fight the current problems in this country have my vote. People who stick their nose in foreign affairs when our country is being raped and taken advantage of from the inside out (welfare, foreigners, prisons / privileges for these people) should be convicted of treason and be shot.
But then again, maybe these thoughts are just my own nationalist ways, and are now frowned upon in this current government, riiiiiight?