The shit religion of peace ... part ? [NSFL]

Looks like most of the people posted here don't know a thing about Islam! You really shouldn't talk about anything which you don't have a clue of!
 


I live in Europe (UK), not the US. And I know several guys who have married muslim girls, and some muslim guys who have married white girls. Yes, there are some (mainly Pakistani) families who are really strict, but these tend to be people from poorer backgrounds.

I give you personal experience that refutes your position, and all you can come back with is general denial. You're talking utter bollocks based on ignorant prejudice.

Only one thing can win the argument here.

Spoon pic.
 
All we need to do in life while we are still in this world is to learn, grow, love..& prepare for our spirit's next journey to the other side.
 
All we need to do in life while we are still in this world is to learn, grow and love

Fixed that for you. Now the statement encompasses everyone on the planet instead of only the misguided religionists.

If I were you I'd spend some time thinking about why you tried to tack your own personal, superstitious, ignorant bullshit
onto an otherwise sound statement. I'll give you a clue - you're trying to validate a bad idea by connoting it with a good idea.
 
Various humans, none of them Christ, wrote various things during different time periods. And then later on some other people decided to combine those into something they decided to call the Bible. Christ walking around in the middle of that doesn't mean he agrees with all the selected writings.

exactly.

it's kind of like saying that the moral of the batman movies is that you should dress up like a joker and kill innocent people... errr.. kinda missing the point... DERP DERP
 
Jesus supposedly indicated that the infallible God changed his mind (???). Why did God hate gays so much before, but now loves everyone?

Because Religion and our conception of God (the universe, whatever) is ever evolving... and Jesus came to point us in a new direction of understanding and conceptualizing God and ourselves. Because the old ways were no longer fulfilling their necessary function. New times call for new breakthroughs in human thought.

There are ways to look at and appreciate christianity that see it as part of the evolution of our understanding of the world, and the psycho/spiritual evolution of human beings. The awakening of humanity... Science and Reason is another such step and movement... But nothing is forever, just like a single human life our understanding and perceptions change, deepen, etc. Things are forever changing, we wont' view science and reason the same way in a hundred years as we do now... and it is the urge to hold on to, crystalize, or systematize an important teaching or movement that really ends up being such a pain/nuisance, we end up locking ourselves in rather than continuing to move forward.

The God of the Old Testament doesn't exist. Get over it. It's so obvious... When you continue to argue that he doesn't exist it just makes you look silly... You're an athiest? YOu don't believe in God? Wow... thats cool bro. But GOD is a pretty fucking far out there word that means a lot of shit to a lot of people. You don't believe in the old testament god? wow... you just passed kindergarden. CONGRATS!

regardless... the caravan moves forward...

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Because Religion and our conception of God (the universe, whatever) is ever evolving... and Jesus came to point us in a new direction of understanding and conceptualizing God and ourselves. Because the old ways were no longer fulfilling their necessary function. New times call for new breakthroughs in human thought.

There are ways to look at and appreciate christianity that see it as part of the evolution of our understanding of the world, and the psycho/spiritual evolution of human beings. The awakening of humanity... Science and Reason is another such step and movement... But nothing is forever, just like a single human life our understanding and perceptions change, deepen, etc. Things are forever changing, we wont' view science and reason the same way in a hundred years as we do now... and it is the urge to hold on to, crystalize, or systematize an important teaching or movement that really ends up being such a pain/nuisance, we end up locking ourselves in rather than continuing to move forward.

The God of the Old Testament doesn't exist. Get over it. It's so obvious... When you continue to argue that he doesn't exist it just makes you look silly... You're an athiest? YOu don't believe in God? Wow... thats cool bro. But GOD is a pretty fucking far out there word that means a lot of shit to a lot of people. You don't believe in the old testament god? wow... you just passed kindergarden. CONGRATS!

regardless... the caravan moves forward...

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So then today I have decided that Jesus was wrong, now is time for Nickstianity.

Let me say it loud and clear "THEY ARE ALL MADE UP STORIES BY PEOPLE TRYING TO MANIPULATE OTHERS".
 
Let me say it loud and clear "THEY ARE ALL MADE UP STORIES BY PEOPLE TRYING TO MANIPULATE OTHERS".

Sometimes maybe yes... but mostly no...

That's like saying that the shamans in tribal groupings are trying to manipulate their tribe and that is the only purpose behind their myths, stories, rituals, and beliefs...

Although yes i agree that in our modern world the original intention and function of religion and our ancient stories has degenerated partially into exactly what you describe.

But to say they were made up to manipulate people... I'd have to disagree...
 
Sometimes maybe yes... but mostly no...

That's like saying that the shamans in tribal groupings are trying to manipulate their tribe and that is the only purpose behind their myths, stories, rituals, and beliefs...

Although yes i agree that in our modern world the original intention and function of religion and our ancient stories has degenerated partially into exactly what you describe.

But to say they were made up to manipulate people... I'd have to disagree...

Why do you have to disagree? Are you sure you don't mean "I want to disagree"?
 
that shit is obviously propaganda, if it was a video of American soldiers pulling off that kind of shit it would be removed off YouTube within minutes

look at all the peasants arguing in this thread as intended
 
Well in that case I want the moon to be made of cheese. Doesn't make it any more likely to be so.

The difference is that we know the moon is not made of cheese. We however do not know that our ancient stories were made up to manipulate mankind...

that is your opinion...

Much anthropology and cultural studies point towards stories, rituals and myths as being natural manifestations and expressions of the human experience. An attempt to understand our world, express ourselves, and encapsulate wisdom, morals and knowledge for future generations.

Story telling is one of the oldest technologies of mankind. A true evolutionary Juggernaut that we have lost our appreciation for. Where would we be without our ability to tell stories, to distill wisdom and experience, to pass on culture and collected progress through narratives that allow us to deepen our understanding and ensure our ability to survive in the world, manipulate our environment, hunt better, and pass on vital knowledge.

Perhaps we have moved on from such a need for the instrumental function of story telling. But...

In my opinion, our ancient stories are much more in line with the above purpose and function than to simply manipulate people.
 
My point is that just because you believe something to be true, without credible proof it doesn't make it valid just because you believe it to be so. With that thinking then anything that is made up is just as valid as anything else.

Ever hear of something called Chinese whispers? Stories that have not been properly documented and passed down by generations have very little credibility. The stories my grandmother told me about the history of our family..........
 
Btw, Youtube is pretty much a great source of snuff films at this point. You can see the dead babies from the recent Syrian massacre there in great detail. Brains literally hanging out of their head.. half of their faces blown off.. etc. The rebels put them up on YouTube and no one has taken them down.

Like someone else said.. they probably leave the snuff films that support some American propaganda machine (like WAR!!) whereas they'd likely instantly remove graphic footage of some American baby's face blown off and brain hanging out.
 
My point is that just because you believe something to be true, without credible proof it doesn't make it valid just because you believe it to be so. With that thinking then anything that is made up is just as valid as anything else.

And I agree with you completely on this, But it also applies to your original assertion that "these stories were made up to manipulate people"... There is no credible proof that validates this statement and makes it true. It is your opinion.

Or rather, there may be something you consider to be credible proof. But my argument is that there is other credible proof that points to the human tendency to tell stories, create rituals, myths, and religion as being rather positive in intention.
 
Does it matter why the stories were made up? What's important is that the people who believe all ancient stories are true should not be given any position of power or responsibility.

Worse are the people who arbitrarily dismiss all these stories as fictional, except the one they were indoctrinated with. They should be fucking shot as far as I'm concerned.