The hypocrisy of Pace Lattin and industrypace.com

As people may or may not know, there was a hack at DirectTrack this year, and someone took and sold over 500,000 email addresses in batches to the industry. Those who also may not know, I am the person who caught the guy and turned him in when he tried to sell that database to Affiliate.com and Azoogle.

As someone pointed out, they were emailed from names that were specific to other networks. I have spoken to one of the networks involved and am concerned that the list was not just their affiliates, but from a list they bought from someone, as this list has been floating around the industry for some time. I am also going to be asking the two affiliate networks to immediately email their affiliates and inform them of this relationship.

On top, the confirmation list will be completely and totally deleted in full. As Jared @ Firelink already pointed out, he has been a reader of my publications from some time, this is where the vast majority of the email addresses came from, my publications for the last 12 years. I apologize for the few people in the screen shot below, but many, many people in my list have been reading it fro as long as 10 years, and some are still reading what used to be my daily mails to people about my life, love, death and the industry. You can see some people have been there since my import into 2005.

Again, I apologize and this will never happen again.

First of all, my name is Mike, not Jared - and my company is Firelead. What the fuck is a Firelink? :angryfire:

Don't try calling here again, I don't want to talk to you. I have read some of your other publications via their respective websites, I have never subscribed via email to ANY of your publications. You used an email that I created specifically for Affiliate.com and got caught red handed.

Making up an story saying you were the one who caught the people who hacked the emails, and then implying somehow that they leaked into your email list is just a poor excuse.

Just stop being douchy - you are calling out your fellow marketers and pointing the finger at "fraud" for your own personal gain. It's only making you look like the next Yu. It's a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
 


Good point, if a forum moderator can delete that, appreciate it. It's been a very difficult weekend!

Just log into ImageShack, click on the image and click on edit, then upload a corrected image. That will fix the current image in your post without you wasting more of Jon's time and will fix the Google Images version of that image (which is probably in the index by now) to protect people's personal information. Simply deleting the post still leaves that image in their index.
 
It's only making you look like the next Yu.

Just as I thought.
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"In numerous emails he made it clear that he would also go on message boards and start posting false accusations against myself – making claims against my person professionally and otherwise."

thats a clip from his blog that he published just now! today!

hes saying sorry, sorry, sorry, on this board..... and then the frikin guy goes on his blog and tries painting a story that somehow this entire board is a result of us all being scammers trying to ruin his name because of his good efforts to protect the industry.

i think we should just report this dude to his esp, to spamhaus and spamcop. enough is enough. he'll never change. and post a link to this board on all industry blogs.
 
Is it possible that Pace might be slightly slow (i.e. mentally retarded?)

He's mentally ill.

I love the self congratulatory "Open letter to the industry" spam email I just got from Pace.

It seems like at times Pace will have moments of clarity and have insight into his delusions and then he'll go off into the deep end again.
 
You used an email that I created specifically for Affiliate.com and got caught red handed.

I had a really old account on CPAEmpire under an email I didn't use on any other networks and thought it was really weird when I got an email to that address. I can confirm mine was from aff.com's list too.
 
This train wreck just gets worse and worse for him... its crazy!

Lying only makes things worse, Pace. Like, significantly worse. Stop it already.

Instead of sticking to apologizing, are we now trying to be coaxed into believing that the Affiliate.com email list that he stole before getting fired from there, was actually not jacked by him from there at all, but part of a list from a guy who was selling it to the networks that he turned around and ratted on and then helped himself to the data because he figured it made a good enough prize that he deserved for being the freedom fighter?

I swear, if any network hires him or if he pulls rank as a speaker at any given industry conference that will be the end of their credibility in my eyes and hopefully most everyone else's. This is fuckin ridiculous. No second or third chances for you big boy.
 
I was getting pace's "newsletter" when he worked at aff.com still. Just saying, not sure he actually took it or was it given to him so he can do their bidding when bashing their competitors?

Check out the first few posts on the blog, its all sunshine and rainbows for aff.com and death and destruction for any of their competitors.
 
I know I have asked for Pace to be banned, but I would like to rescind that request. Every now and then we all need someone like Pace to come along and give us a good laugh.
 
I was getting pace's "newsletter" when he worked at aff.com still. Just saying, not sure he actually took it or was it given to him so he can do their bidding when bashing their competitors?

Check out the first few posts on the blog, its all sunshine and rainbows for aff.com and death and destruction for any of their competitors.

On the other hand affpace.com promotes competing CPA networks.
 
Also might want to consider hitting "Report Spam" button for these types of emails. As someone who has dealt with scomps on a daily basis for years, I understand how much of a pian in the arse it is to deal with people who hit report spam instead of unsub.

I know his newsletter service icontact, won't be please with a high complaint threshold.

I too have received his newsletters on a yahoo account only used for signing up to Affiliate Networks.

From icontact:

A member of our staff reviews each message sent to more than 5,000 recipients and either will approve or reject it. This threshold is 500 recipients for clients that have been with us less than two months.

Using the system to send out emails to addresses obtained in any way other than a subscriber opting-in to your list may incur a $100.00 (US) charge per substantiated incident (i.e., per email) in accordance with state and federal regulations.
 
Pace to me comes off as a self serving smarmy fuck who probably had access to privileged information at MB and decided to "help himself" thinking it was a win-win for himself and his employer.


ie most bloggers who write things are if they're manning the breaking news desk at the Associated Press.

Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, blog.

File Moedetard and Dennis Yu in the exact same category. Pointing fingers like a boss with dumb tech crunch 'valuation' numbers about their 'companies' while pushing '02 Accords with rimz like a mothafuckin BOSS.

The comical part is that one ALMOST feels bad about calling them out or attacking them since it's obvious they already lost in life. But then again they push buttons, hell didn't Pace have a post attacking Dee specifically on his blog that quickly mysteriously 'vanished?'

lol