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Rolling Stone says: Tin-foil hatters are Right!
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A few years back, Rolling Stone published a story about E. Howard Hunt supposedly revealing who was involved with killing JFK. Hunt was a CIA agent and was convicted as part of the Watergate scandal.
not on their site now, but archive.org has it :
The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt : Rolling Stone
not on their site now, but archive.org has it :
The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt : Rolling Stone
You're living in Asia fucking a ladyboy. Why do you give a fuck about what goes on over here anymore. You bitched out and left and now you want to tell people how to live. Piss off
Because whatever happens, no matter what events occur - it will always be because of a conspiracy and because of the hidden powers.
Being a conspiracy guy is sort of like having a superiority complex mixed with the awesome feeling of being a maverick who is totally right fighting against goliath.
A superiority complex because it feels superior to constantly tell people they have no idea whats going on, how deluded they are and how the conspiracy believer is really the guy who knows all the truth.
Nations don't exist over here? Fuck you.
What a bunch of total horseshit. Maybe I'm not a conspiracy guy then, because my life feels far more like being a tiny, slippery rat trying to escape an F5 tornado headed right at me.
I have spent enough time warning the rest of you while I flee it though; I'm really starting to hope many of you get blown away by it.
Oh fuck... Your ban has been lifted and you head straight in here to give advice I see. This place is in great hands.
Mods: Please ban me for 3 days. I've got shit to do.
You'll notice none of the fanatics addressed my question.
So what if there are Rothchilds?
So what if there is an Illuminati?
They can't answer that. Hyperventilating about everything is a sort of mentally retarded feedback loop. You become tone deaf to rationality. You become tone deaf to other people's opinions. This makes you more retarded. Which makes you more tone deaf. Which makes you more retarded ad infinitum.
You become, like Luke and p0ck3taces, a raving lunatic no one wants to listen to, and no one thinks is credible.
This of course, reinforces the paranoia and insecurity of the conspiracy nut, who now sees the whole world against him. And instead of accepting that I am against Luke being a nutcase and p0ck3taces being an emotional child, they project our dissatisfaction and disapproval with them onto the conspiracy itself. They don't have to take responsibility for themselves, when they can shield their actions behind the supposed righteousness of a belief/ideology.
In other words, the ideology gets all the arrows intended for the nuts, and the nuts use this as validation of their righteousness.
Whatever. The world is full of nutjobs and whackos. I might have been one once. Now I play with my dogs, eat well and try to laugh and smile with people I care about.
YMMV.
So what if there are Rothchilds?
So what if there is an Illuminati?
They can't answer that. Hyperventilating about everything is a sort of mentally retarded feedback loop. You become tone deaf to rationality. You become tone deaf to other people's opinions. This makes you more retarded. Which makes you more tone deaf. Which makes you more retarded ad infinitum.
You become, like Luke and p0ck3taces, a raving lunatic no one wants to listen to, and no one thinks is credible.
This of course, reinforces the paranoia and insecurity of the conspiracy nut, who now sees the whole world against him. And instead of accepting that I am against Luke being a nutcase and p0ck3taces being an emotional child, they project our dissatisfaction and disapproval with them onto the conspiracy itself. They don't have to take responsibility for themselves, when they can shield their actions behind the supposed righteousness of a belief/ideology.
In other words, the ideology gets all the arrows intended for the nuts, and the nuts use this as validation of their righteousness.
Whatever. The world is full of nutjobs and whackos. I might have been one once. Now I play with my dogs, eat well and try to laugh and smile with people I care about.
YMMV.
Mine does. There are plenty of people who study occult history without letting it get to them in the ways you describe and, amazingly, still laugh and smile with people they care about.
You wish.
We're just not stupid enough to write dangerous stuff like that down in public.
You really do make lots of unfounded assumptions, can't you see that?
Wow, you're no longer holding back. If I thought that many people here agreed with you, I'd be insulted by this.
You're much worse than I thought, however. This baseless rant here makes me wonder if serving your enemy for too long makes your mind go soft.
I think you're going insane, bro. Seek help.
Great advice, Thoreau.
Except for the part that you actually know what the problem is, (the state) but your actions all align with what the state wants.
You choose to be your own enemy out of cowardice... That's pretty sad.
That's not the sort of personality type or obsession I am talking about though.Mine does. There are plenty of people who study occult history without letting it get to them in the ways you describe and, amazingly, still laugh and smile with people they care about.
Conspiracy theory stuff, and to a lesser degree, politic activism, seems to attract a certain type of personality.
I am not posting any assumptions. I am not claiming to have any specific knowledge whatsoever on this topic.
It's good you're oblivious then.
I may be going insane, but it's not from worrying about shit beyond my control, or crying about stuff I can't prove, or acting like a polyanna over every little thing that occurs in the world. I will take my crazy over your crazy any day.
Actually, the problem isn't the state. That's a very simple (and erroneous) view in my opinion. The problem is the people who believe in the state.
"The state" is a delusion. It's a fiction. A figment of our collective imagination. It gives people intellectual and moral cover, but its still just a mental abstraction.
Guys like you, who insist on giving abstractions free rent in their heads, who obsess and rant on forums about "the state" are just super delusional.
The difference between you and a hardcore religious activist is very, very small from where I sit.
I'm living a productive, happy life without hurting anyone or doing it at another person's expense.
If that's cowardice, so be it.
Enjoy being melodramatic and impotent. Let me know how that turns out.
It's not that I disagree with what you're saying, but I think there is a larger perspective to look at than this, and perhaps Guerilla is hinting at that.
If there are always going to be stupid people there are always going to be people in power controlling them. If we were to overthrow these people in power, as people have done ad-infinitum throughout history, they will be right back a generation or two later. If we remove them again they will be back again.
There are always going to be people who care more about basketball and American Idol than they do economics or philosophy. And that's perfectly fine. That's them living their life to the level that they want to. Who am I to go on a religious Libertarian crusade and force my view on them? It's not up to me to force my view on them, that's not even morally sound. I can invite them to my way of thinking, but they could give two shits about what I have to say. And that's fine. They are going through life at the level they are and I am at the level that I am. We all have different interests and desires. And we are all, dare I say, on our own individual spiritual journeys with infinity to explore all the possible angles and expressions which abound in 3rd density. So I'm not in the position to force my will on them, just as people smarter than me are not in the position to force their will on me. They can invite me, but most times anybody smarter or wiser than yourself is written off as stupid and irrelevant, because they are irrelevant.
Moreover, I don't think you can paint a broad stroke and define it as us or them. It's not a group of Illuminati and a group of non-Illuminati. It's not a group of Rothschilds and a group of non-Rothschilds. These are labels for groups of individuals, but each individual in these groups is an evolving entity with their own individual desires and course of evolution. They are exercising their free will, and I exercise mine. We are both living within the laws of nature.
The Illuminati and people like this is simply duality running its course. There are always going to be people and things at opposite ends. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The Illuminati and these guys are just a set of actions for us to act upon as we choose. They are living life how they want to and we should live our lives how we want to. What we do affects them and what they do affects us. But to think that we can get rid of darkness with light or right with left is a hard position to hold. The two work hand in hand the same as the Eastern Yin and Yang.
The Illuminati and all these guys is just politics at the next level, but it's still politics. Rather than talking about Democrats and Republicans we talk about Illuminati and Patriots or Authoritarians and Anarcho-capitalists. It's all drama, politics, and polarity. While it may be fun to participate in the game and there may be things to learn in the game, at the end of the day it's just a game, and we can step out of it at any time.
The Illuminati don't control me. Sure, they may control many of the banks, the United States Corporation and a few other large assets, but they don't control me. They can lock me up in jail and do whatever they want to me on a physical level, but they still don't control me. They never can own or control me. And because of this I don't let what they do get to me. There is a much larger perspective to all this. They are just people doing their free will and I am a person doing my free will. We are both coexisting within duality. What is good without bad or light without darkness?
We can go on the religious crusade of "waking people up" but the other side will just respond equally with "putting them back to sleep". I think the much more important thing, and really the only thing within our reach in this lifetime is developing our inner selves. This is the message of many of the wise sages throughout history. We need to turn within. There are always going to be people and things which don't harmonize with our internal code. But nothing is possible of taking away our internal peace and happiness unless we allow for that. We need to first go within and find our balance and recognize everything else for what it is, drama. Not good, not bad. It just is.
So it's not why bother, it's not not giving a shit, it's not being a sheep for the Illuminati or whatever other expression one can create -- it's understanding things for what they are and becoming at peace within a world of a multitude of dramas playing themselves out. Because at the end of the day the only thing we really have control over in this world is ourselves.
Caught red handed.
Your claim:
I can answer that, so you made an incorrect assumption. Heck, even if I lie about the answer, I can still answer that. You assume waaay too much.
This makes me LOL, considering the source.
Have fun in Eve tonight; meanwhile I'll be working with dozens of other members here through Skype and on a different forum making some cryptocash, while we help build a parallel economy.
I don't worry. I work towards making them within my control.
There was no crying in this thread. Just a bit of gloating in the OP when an intelligent journalist backed up part of my view of the world. Is that really so sad or monkey-howl worthy? I didn't even rub it in much.
It is a part of the forum called "Shooting the shit" afterall.
No shit, sherlock.
LOL.
Again, assuming too much.
That's not what makes you a coward.
You have knowledge that sets you apart from the sheeple, knowledge that gives you a chance to help stop the greater evil, yet you refuse to use it.
It's like if your local collective was, in their fear of ghosts, manifesting a ghost that kind of enslaved them. They make sacrifices to it like ancient civilizations did, and they pray to it, and worry that it will come and take them away in the dark of night, every night. Naturally when someone did go missing, that just proved the ghost's existence more.
What you are doing in this example is knowing full well that the ghost doesn't exist, and knowing if you could only show the others it doesn't exist then they could be free...
Yet you refuse to do so, because they're scared shitless and that makes them hard-headed.
I won't call you evil or immoral for not taking it any further, but you certainly aren't trying to right a great wrong here that few are in a position to do anything about other than you... And that's just not very brave.
And before you mock my forum threads as being sad attempts at valor; keep in mind that It's what I'm not talking about in public that is helping the most. These forum threads are mostly just to have fun and gauge the waters.
Yet more assumptions. How do you know I didn't already contribute to something worthwhile for the cause?