Rolling Stone says: Tin-foil hatters are Right!
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Surely this:
SWISS FRANC TRADER: can u put 6m swiss libor in low pls?...
PRIMARY SUBMITTER: Whats it worth
SWSISS FRANC TRADER: ive got some sushi rolls from yesterday?...
PRIMARY SUBMITTER: ok low 6m, just for u
SWISS FRANC TRADER: wooooooohooooooo. . . thatd be awesome
Exchange you referenced is just evidence that there is no giant well organised conspiracy, its just a bunch of self interested individuals and/groups who are basically a bit lame sometimes, often conspire to enrich themselves but definitely not the roboticaly efficient evil overlords you imagine control every tiny aspect of everything.
SWISS FRANC TRADER: can u put 6m swiss libor in low pls?...
PRIMARY SUBMITTER: Whats it worth
SWSISS FRANC TRADER: ive got some sushi rolls from yesterday?...
PRIMARY SUBMITTER: ok low 6m, just for u
SWISS FRANC TRADER: wooooooohooooooo. . . thatd be awesome
Exchange you referenced is just evidence that there is no giant well organised conspiracy, its just a bunch of self interested individuals and/groups who are basically a bit lame sometimes, often conspire to enrich themselves but definitely not the roboticaly efficient evil overlords you imagine control every tiny aspect of everything.
Yesterday:
Rolling stone (and all the news) is part of the intricately controlled media that meticulously place news and orchestrate the media agenda to fool us all.
Today:
Rolling stone is right because a guy wrote about my favorite fantasy conspiracy stuff saying I was right all along! (NB depending on future articles they may revert back to the lizard-controlled media)
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Good point by some guy on hacker news:
The claim that "everything is rigged" is supported by a small number of specific examples coupled with a generous helping of polemics. Facts are not placed in useful contexts. The reader, after reading this article, has likely learned very little but only had whatever pre-bias he had confirmed. It takes a lot more than that to support the fantastic superpowered-global-banking-conspiracy thesis of the article.
Since, on articles like this, you tend to be downvoted for going against the zeitgeist, I'll provide a specific example.
The civil suit over LIBOR fixing, mentioned on page one, was thrown out because antitrust laws only apply to competitive processes. (Source: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/03/30/Judge-drops-antitr...)
Taibbi writes: "In that case, a federal judge accepted the banker-defendants' incredible argument: If cities and towns and other investors lost money because of Libor manipulation, that was their own fault for ever thinking the banks were competing in the first place." This is a baffling recontextualization: suits are thrown out when they are not lawful because we live in a democratic rule of law, and there is no reason to believe the judge wished to punish or blame consumers. The suit was thrown out because the suit was illegal. This isn't an uncommon or partisan thing: the famous Walmart v. Dukes discrimination lawsuit was thrown out 9-0 by the Supreme Court, because it was unlawful. (The reason the case is famous is because of a 5-4 decision on whether it could be refiled, but that's beyond the scope of this comment.)
I will admit that my first thought was that Treasure Island was a terrible name since the casino sucks, and then my second thought was how to get in on the action. If Matt is truthful in the article, I concur with the thinking he'll be arrested on trumpted up charges in 6 mos.
There won't be massive investigations. Think of this: central banks, faced with low returns on bonds, have turned to buying equities. If they follow the Peter Lynch principle of buying what you know, which sector do you think they are overweighted towards? Banking.
There won't be massive investigations. Think of this: central banks, faced with low returns on bonds, have turned to buying equities. If they follow the Peter Lynch principle of buying what you know, which sector do you think they are overweighted towards? Banking.
notice taibbi doesn't actually quote the judge's ruling or the "bankers argument", but rather rephrases them into his own sarcastic hipster liberalese.
from taibbi's wiki: Taibbi covered the 2008 presidential campaign for Real Time with Bill Maher,[7] and he has made several guest appearances on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show[8] and other MSNBC programs. He also has served as a contributor on Countdown with Keith Olbermann.
good to see this guy didn't go into the project with an agenda, otherwise some bias might have crept in.
And when that doesn't happen...it will be to spread disinformation and trick you to THINK that he's safe.
lmao
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When you search the Judgement quote from Matt's article in google in quotes, you'll see that those are not his words. He didn't "Sum up the judgement" that way, others clearly did as you'll see there are tons of quotes going back to April 18th that said these exact words first.
However, The very last listing in a google exact match for the quote, when sorted by time, was extremely interesting:
As you can see, Google indexed this exact, loooong phrase back on June 27th last year, on facebook... But if you click through, the page is gone.
Looking at cache of it, the conversation is all about libor corruption, but the quote is not there!
Anyone else think that's a bit odd? Hmm...
However, The very last listing in a google exact match for the quote, when sorted by time, was extremely interesting:
As you can see, Google indexed this exact, loooong phrase back on June 27th last year, on facebook... But if you click through, the page is gone.
Looking at cache of it, the conversation is all about libor corruption, but the quote is not there!
Anyone else think that's a bit odd? Hmm...
When you search the Judgement quote from Matt's article in google in quotes, you'll see that those are not his words. He didn't "Sum up the judgement" that way, others clearly did as you'll see there are tons of quotes going back to April 18th that said these exact words first.
However, The very last listing in a google exact match for the quote, when sorted by time, was extremely interesting:
As you can see, Google indexed this exact, loooong phrase back on June 27th last year, on facebook... But if you click through, the page is gone.
Looking at cache of it, the conversation is all about libor corruption, but the quote is not there!
Anyone else think that's a bit odd? Hmm...
I don't see any arguments on that page that a 3rd grader with a passing interest in the history of herd mentality couldn't debunk.
I don't see any factual issues. Please provide evidence of your slander.
But first, ask yourself why you'd want to do so, knowing who you are helping when you do.
You're very welcome. It's people like you, not dchuk, that I write posts like this for. (Too bad I can't help myself get caught in their traps afterwards.)
I've never been one to say that there is a definitive room of 5 Illuminati or Rothschilds or whatever in complete control of everything. However, if there weren't a complete control over many of the worlds governments by some combination of conspiring groups that share some common agenda, then the LIBOR and ISDAFix scandals could never happen.
I imagine it's just the heads of the very biggest banks, finance corps, (like GE) and media corps. Probably some MIC corps as well. Who knows though? There could be some old geezers like a Rockefeller or Rothschild in the mix that has so much power that he's like their chairman of the board...
Outside of the big-wig-old-money membership, there are likely lesser levels of involvement as well such as the Bilderberg attendees and heads of states. These temp-basis pawns would be used to change policy and implement things like Agenda 21, which we also now know is real.
So yes, while the chat above demonstrates that there is a lot of random, lower-level chaos in the system, that lower-level chaos cannot explain how the system became rigged in the first place, nor could it exist in a system that has not been rigged.
Of course not. Who would suggest such a thing?
Hmm... and anytime that tag exists, you seem to be present as well... Coincidence? :eek7:
So now you can't even keep up with a concept as simple as 'old results in google are being removed?' Damn, I thought you worked with google and shit. You're really slipping bro!
This thread is funny. Conspiracy theorist wants public vindication through validation by Rolling Stone magazine.
I am so happy I no longer care about any of this stuff. When I see many of these convos, I imagine a bunch of monkeys sitting around, squealing at one another.
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Let's take 30 seconds for a different perspective.
What if there are Rothschilds running the banking system?
What if the Illuminati is in various levels of government, pursuing some secret, possibly mystical agenda?
What if I could provide you with absolute, irrefutable proof of both or either? What would change? How would your life, or the life of anyone else be meaningfully different?
Again
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdnwLX5m3G8]Howler monkeys announcing themselves - YouTube[/ame]
I am so happy I no longer care about any of this stuff. When I see many of these convos, I imagine a bunch of monkeys sitting around, squealing at one another.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdnwLX5m3G8]Howler monkeys announcing themselves - YouTube[/ame]
Let's take 30 seconds for a different perspective.
What if there are Rothschilds running the banking system?
What if the Illuminati is in various levels of government, pursuing some secret, possibly mystical agenda?
What if I could provide you with absolute, irrefutable proof of both or either? What would change? How would your life, or the life of anyone else be meaningfully different?
Again
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdnwLX5m3G8]Howler monkeys announcing themselves - YouTube[/ame]
That's the real question here; how does change get started?
If only enough sheeple wake up, like you did, then don't you think some sort of change could be made?
Such as the masses seeing that they simply don't have to participate in the state anymore, and start ignoring it?
I do nothing here that you haven't done before.
Luke
my man what I don't understand is why bother communicating your findings to people when you already know the response.
all people come from different beliefs so they see or read thru their own personal filters so to speak.
the only thing you can control is YOU!! your physical person.
you take what you learn and you OPT out and leave.. which i think you ave already done.
whatever is going to happen will happen regardless what you, dhcuk or anyone else.
I myself relocated to a new country 15 years ago seeing the obvious writing on the wall.
now I watch everything whats going on like a movie.. doing what i can to be as self sustaining as possible.
the U.S. has reached in my mind the "already too late phase"
just finished my solar/wind turbine project
next solar powered well
and the aquaponics project
been a great experience so far
now to get some more popcorn
(assuming we are under a controlling elite, this is what I would say to your post)
Take a good look. This here is the exact end product controlling powers are looking for. People who are smart enough to know what's up, but have resided themselves to the thought it's impossible to provide any meaningful resistance.
Why do I say you're the exact product they want? Why not completely out of the loop brainwashed sheeple?
At least there is a chance someone who is presented with new knowledge that they are being controlled will decide to revolt. There is some unknown in how they will react once shown the truth.
You have already been shown the truth and have decided 'why bother'.
You will take anything the controlling elite do with a nod and an I told you so. You will even find a slight satisfaction out of each unfolding as you revel in how right you were, never missing a chance to rub it in another's face.
You are the controlling elite's greatest weapon. You will spend your time convincing others of the delusion they're under, while simultaneously imparting on them the impossibility of resistance (just like you are trying to do in this thread). Creating more and more 'why bother' people who will use their knowledge to mock people rather than to inform.
Congrats, you're the exact type of person a controlling elite wants.
Do society a favor and stop spreading your jaded why bother mentality.
(but that's just what I would say if there was a controlling elite. Good thing there isn't, right?)