Right now I have a VPS with knownhost which is managed but I used it for my business' so I would rather separate my affiliate marketing sites in some way.. What are some good hosts I can take a look at? How much of a difference is an unmanaged VPS?
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Well unmanaged basically means other than the VPS runnning as a virtual container you have to take care of your own stuff, software, server settings, DNS, etc you take care of yourself. Good example of a cheap (but reputable) unmanaged VPS provider would be zensix.com, I used to have a KnownHost VPS, kept my client stuff with knownhost and moved my own stuff to zensix, least until I got my own dedicated server and so forth (hence the signature). Though he does do a pretty good job of writing tutorials and guides to help you go the unmanaged route here: ZenSSH.
Difference between IonVz and KnownHost... if you wish to do a VPS without a control panel running The Nginx Webserver, I'll manage it, KnownHost won't touch anything other than WHM/Cpanel (and apparently don't know Directadmin very well, I was hired by a least 3 clients to fix their botched DirectAdmin installs).
Difference between IonVz and KnownHost... if you wish to do a VPS without a control panel running The Nginx Webserver, I'll manage it, KnownHost won't touch anything other than WHM/Cpanel (and apparently don't know Directadmin very well, I was hired by a least 3 clients to fix their botched DirectAdmin installs).
ah i see.. im not even sure how i would handle all that server stuff.. is it that difficult?
I guess it depends on who you ask, but for example I don't even deal with email or DNS on the server itself when I'm not running a control panel, I leave that to google apps and godaddy/namecheap, the rest (database, webserver, php, etc) is pretty bearable. But course if your sites are mission critical you either want hosting that can manage you or hire someone on the side as a backup. Read thru some of the guides on zenssh.com to see what I mean.
To make life easier for some of the clients who want to venture into using Nginx (Why Nginx?) I have a VPS template premade with nginx, php 5.3.3, mysql 5.1 (w/ phpmyadmin) setup so that you just have to worry bout the virtual host configuration (ie: adding your domains and files) rather than trying to figure out how to setup those services from scratch, but as I said before, I can manage those types of configurations, so wouldn't necessarily be stuck unmanaged if you needed some help.
To be fair, Eric(Subigo) does have a custom apache-based template that does really well on memory as well, however once you start growing on traffic apache is going to consume more memory on just the static content alone garanteed compared to the likes of nginx or lighttpd.
But yea give zenssh.com a look, if it looks like something you can handle easily 10$/month is rather sweet deal but keep in mind you can't send a ticket going "How do I setup... " since thats not covered in an unmanaged package (There is however have a community forum on zenssh.com now). I'll probably get around to writing up some similar documentation like he has but it'll be geared more towards Nginx on the finer details.
Guess no one else replied yet cuz we've already had quite a few 'recommend me a VPS provider' thread
Hey Boats and Hoes,
Feel free to message me. I would be happy to help you out with your request.
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Or email mikem@webair.com
Feel free to message me. I would be happy to help you out with your request.
ICQ#489798823
Or email mikem@webair.com
I guess it depends on who you ask, but for example I don't even deal with email or DNS on the server itself when I'm not running a control panel, I leave that to google apps and godaddy/namecheap, the rest (database, webserver, php, etc) is pretty bearable. But course if your sites are mission critical you either want hosting that can manage you or hire someone on the side as a backup. Read thru some of the guides on zenssh.com to see what I mean.
To make life easier for some of the clients who want to venture into using Nginx (Why Nginx?) I have a VPS template premade with nginx, php 5.3.3, mysql 5.1 (w/ phpmyadmin) setup so that you just have to worry bout the virtual host configuration (ie: adding your domains and files) rather than trying to figure out how to setup those services from scratch, but as I said before, I can manage those types of configurations, so wouldn't necessarily be stuck unmanaged if you needed some help.
To be fair, Eric(Subigo) does have a custom apache-based template that does really well on memory as well, however once you start growing on traffic apache is going to consume more memory on just the static content alone garanteed compared to the likes of nginx or lighttpd.
But yea give zenssh.com a look, if it looks like something you can handle easily 10$/month is rather sweet deal but keep in mind you can't send a ticket going "How do I setup... " since thats not covered in an unmanaged package (There is however have a community forum on zenssh.com now). I'll probably get around to writing up some similar documentation like he has but it'll be geared more towards Nginx on the finer details.
Guess no one else replied yet cuz we've already had quite a few 'recommend me a VPS provider' thread
I took a look and zenssh doesnt seem too bad.. ive done some things with root before so its not too bad.. maybe it would be better for settin up marketing sites when needed.. if I keep apache would there be a way to use a panel of any kind if it was 2 difficult? if there isnt a way what reason should i stay with apache over nginx or lighttpd? This is goin to be where I have my prosper/tracking at also but not sure how somethin like that would be setup yet
If all you'll be running is prosper, there's really not much you would need a panel for. But if you really needed something there's always Webmin/Virtualmin, which is free. And if you still didn't like that, I can get a DirectAdmin license for you, but it's $10/month.
One main reason I could say for staying with apache is familiarity (and to a novice its a tad easier to get PHP implemented as a module), especially if you have dabbled some in the httpd config yourself. Course one immediate downside you'd notice going from apache to nginx is no .htaccess support, so would have to put the rewrites into the nginx config (however a 6 line wordpress config turns into simply try_files $uri $uri/ /index.php; in an nginx config). (I have an simple Apache to Nginx migration tips here: Apache to Nginx Migration Tips » KBeezie )
You could certainly take the nginx template and disable nginx from starting up and instead reinstall apache etc. But if you start out with a control-panel less setup even if with apache, there's no easy way to move to a control panel because both Directadmin (which I provide) and Cpanel/Whm (you'll have to get a license yourself for that) require a clean CentOS installation and will overwrite any existing configuration. So having a backup would be important and would require creating your account in the control panel from scratch and then pushing up the files and databases from there.
In the last 2 months I've set up bout 6 Nginx configurations (mostly on other people's servers that they leased without a control panel from their own host) which had prosper (and memcache memory providing), mysql 5.1 and PHP 5.3.3 setup and running. And for adding a new domain most of the time they just had to cut and paste a server block in the config, change the hostname and restart nginx (but also point that domain to that server's IP via their registrar or DNS provider).
Software wise you can go with what you want, but keep in mind that some things like lighttpd are not within the support team's scope of knowledge where as Apache and Nginx are, if you choose to install a different webserver, or DNS server or your own preference of mail server you could do so at the discretion that our ability to help you with custom software may be limited to the usual diagnostic suggestions. But if you went with the Nginx template and used your registrar (I prefer namecheap) for the DNS I personally would help you manage that configuration.
Edit: As Subigo said, if all you're doing is setting up for a prosper tracker, there's really not much there is to it.
Sounds good.. I'm goin to sign up was just wonderin before I do are there any special offers going on with zensix? seems pretty straight forward but thought i would check before pickin a plan
signin up now.. thanks!