Rand Paul OWNS Energy Committee, leaves woman speechless.

mgt, I'm not clear whether or not you agree with RP's suggestion in the video of making it voluntary and allowing companies to "convince" us to buy their products, but if not..

Few argue against energy conservation (even as Rand Paul mentioned several times in the video), the argument lies within how they're trying to achieve energy conservation.

If you have no problem with them passing a law requiring people to purchase certain types of appliances/products, then you either (a) don't give a shit or (b) are ignorant to: the fact that it has several negative ramifications.

Before we get to those, understand that these new energy efficient appliances are more expensive and break down often. This is not a guess, this is a fact as witnessed through my father who has to repair or junk them (usually junk) because they're too expensive to fix thus not worth fixing.

With that said, if they flip a switch over night with the above facts still a reality, those ramifications are:
  1. Too expensive for many people. The cheaper alternative non-compliant appliances won't be available legally.
  2. They will break down often, and the cost to fix them far exceeds appliances of previous generations.

We're looking at a significant increase in the cost of living with the expensive appliances and the frequent breakdowns.

It's an economic issue. As Rand suggested, it shouldn't be mandatory. Both the technology and price need to improve. The incentive to switch has to be there first, and it currently is not.
 


We've been innovating, but we cannot make years of progress in a month. Desalination is one current source of freshwater, but it's not viable on a large scale because of how costly the technology is right now.

I take it you don't live in Florida, do you?

Rising water bills will make old toilets less attractive.

I still don't see you successfully defending your belief in restricting consumer choice and market expansion which essentially shits on the free market and individual choice.
 
mgt, I'm not clear whether or not you agree with RP's suggestion in the video of making it voluntary and allowing companies to "convince" us to buy their products, but if not..

Few argue against energy conservation (even as Rand Paul mentioned several times in the video), the argument lies within how they're trying to achieve energy conservation.

If you have no problem with them passing a law requiring people to purchase certain types of appliances/products, then you either (a) don't give a shit or (b) are ignorant to: the fact that it has several negative ramifications.

Before we get to those, understand that these new energy efficient appliances are more expensive and break down often. This is not a guess, this is a fact as witnessed through my father who has to repair or junk them (usually junk) because they're too expensive to fix thus not worth fixing.

With that said, if they flip a switch over night with the above facts still a reality, those ramifications are:
  1. Too expensive for many people. The cheaper alternative non-compliant appliances won't be available legally.
  2. They will break down often, and the cost to fix them far exceeds appliances of previous generations.

We're looking at a significant increase in the cost of living with the expensive appliances and the frequent breakdowns.

It's an economic issue. As Rand suggested, it shouldn't be mandatory. Both the technology and price need to improve. The incentive to switch has to be there first, and it currently is not.

It goes much deeper than the issue that's being brought to attention. It's something I really don't have the time/patience to get into on here, especially with the amount of trolls and or people that choose to argue on ignorance.

Do I think it's a good cause to pursue? Absolutely. Do I think the way it's being gone about is the correct way? Absolutely not.

I do think most people are being simplistic and shortsighted when saying RP's example was a great analogy. Most people seem to agree that abortion is a big decision and a decision that does not solely affect one person. Water conservation is also a big decision and one that undeniably effects more people than a single person's choice on abortion.
 
Rising water bills will make old toilets less attractive.

I still don't see you successfully defending your belief in restricting consumer choice and market expansion which essentially shits on the free market and individual choice.

The USA has never had a free market. The US has never given an individual 100% choice. Ever.

This is nothing new.
 
I really like Paul Rand.

The problem was, that what that woman was thinking wasn't, "Oh my god, he's right, I'm wrong, I look like an idiot right now. I can't even think of anything to rebut his impressively clever argument."

She was thinking, "Oh my god, this guy is such an idiot. Of course government knows best, why else would we be here? Why do I have to sit here and listen to this guy? He's an obvious kook. Abortion is abortion and energy is energy. There's no comparison. Free will? That leads to anarchy, and anarchy is horrible! Women get raped! I bet Paul is thinking about raping me right now! Should I call out 'rape!'? Should I run? I'll just suggest that we can both leave together and shop for a toilet together, peacefully and with as little rape as possible."
 
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Fuck Rand Paul (and his gay name).

Paul does not approve.

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Rand Paul is a fucking retard.

He tries to be clever with this tack but he highlights his own hypocrisy. He wants to regulate and outlaw abortion (eliminate choice) but is trying to use choice as the ruse for complaining about not being able to flush his dinosaur dumps.

He doesn't really give a shit about this. He's just trying to make a splash, promote his brand, and position himself for a run for higher office. What a fucking retard!
 
At least he keeps consistent.. he has the same terrible taste in politics as he does in women.

Haha some random nerd on on a affiliate marketing forum is telling me about my taste in women.

Go get some pussy and get off rand Pauls dick.
 
RP is comparing freedom of choice with one's body to having the freedom to buy and make whatever the fuck people want?

Ridiculous.


Leftist demand the right for women to TAKE a life from their bodies YET they turn around and tell me that I can't put salt and certain fat INTO my body.



Double Standards and Hypocrisy is why I can't take leftist seriously. They are still living and thinking as children.


Ridiculous.
 
Why is it ridiculous? It is a self-ownership issue.

Who owns you? Why do you NOT have the right to choose your own toilet or light bulbs but you can choose to have an abortion?

I would go a step further and say how can HE (RP) make this argument when he is anti-choice? (pro-life whatever you want to call it these days)
 
Maybe it's because abortion laws today deny fathers any rights over his own offspring.