Profit Kings Media Scam

Yousif purchased some leads from me recently, payment went accordingly. Didn't have any issues there, was my first encounter with him.
 


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PKM is closing from BHW :boid:

PKMYousif: yo
Paul Bourque: yo
PKMYousif: dude
PKMYousif: i fucking hate
PKMYousif: this industry
PKMYousif: im about to close down my network and tell affs to fuck off
PKMYousif: too many people fuck with me
Paul Bourque: ya i see
Paul Bourque: Yousif Yalda
Paul Bourque: lol
PKMYousif: dude i fucking hate everybody
PKMYousif: im not paying these faggots
PKMYousif: im collecting on my last round of advertiser payments this month
PKMYousif: and telling everybody im not getting paid
Paul Bourque: well from the WF thread somebody jacked your AIM name, so is this even you?
Paul Bourque: lol
PKMYousif: no they didnt jack it they somehow changed my status
Paul Bourque: so why aren't you paying affs?
PKMYousif: because they keep harrassing me
Paul Bourque: are they harassing you about not paying them?
PKMYousif: yeah
PKMYousif: i told them to wait a month
PKMYousif: i get paid by mos advertisers feb 28
Paul Bourque: did they know they were on monthly payments or did they think they were on weeklies or something?
PKMYousif: weeklies
PKMYousif: but i told them a few days late
PKMYousif: they didnt even run much like $8-10k
Paul Bourque: ya well i can understand why they're pissed. but i wouldn't withhold payment just because they name-called
Paul Bourque: unless you feel like getting sued
PKMYousif: dude they are peasants
PKMYousif: i dont need to pay them
PKMYousif: they cant sue me
PKMYousif: it was blackhat anyway
PKMYousif: u never have to pay blackhat affiliates, its the slickest loophole in the game 
Paul Bourque: good to know
PKMYousif: so hows your day been
Paul Bourque: the ususal, relaxed day of working
PKMYousif: nice
PKMYousif: you need any direct offers?
Paul Bourque: to be honest not really looking to run with a person who will withhold thousands of dollars from affiliates because they're "peasants" b/c they're upset about a late payment
PKMYousif: dude ill pay you
PKMYousif: you think im a dishonest guy? u need to get your facts straight
PKMYousif: they harrassed me
PKMYousif: i should just sue them for harrassment
PKMYousif: instead ill just keep some money
Paul Bourque: they harassed you because you didn't pay them on time, can you blame them?
PKMYousif: they have no patience
PKMYousif: im being patient my advertisers paying a bit late
Paul Bourque: if i was told weeklies and then was told "wait an extra month for your payment", i'd be pissed
PKMYousif: well would u rather get paid in a month
PKMYousif: or never
Paul Bourque: in a month. but i'd still be pissed
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I had a similar conversation with "Yousif" today on aim. I hit up my pkm affiliate manager and confirmed that his aim is hacked.

I've always got my payments from pkm.
 
Now why would you make up a conversation like that? I am locked out of my AIM account.

mGrunin said:
Yousif Yalda: hey
[18:38] mgrunins: Hey
[18:39] Yousif Yalda: yo would u be willing to provide me some cash flow......i need to pay just 1 big aff before i close the network
[18:39] Yousif Yalda: the rest dont matter but i need 15k, i can return it within a month with 25% interest
[18:40] mgrunins: What happened to the network?
[18:40] Yousif Yalda: i let too many frauders in
[18:40] Yousif Yalda: lost money and dont have cash flow
[18:40] mgrunins: So you're closing it completely down?
[18:40] Yousif Yalda: and i have 20 peasant affiliates i still owe about $100k to and then 1-2 big affiliates i really need to pay
[18:40] Yousif Yalda: yeah
[18:41] Yousif Yalda: im gonna reopen it with a fake name
[18:41] Yousif Yalda: well new network
[18:41] mgrunins: Give me the night to think about it.
[18:41] Yousif Yalda: okay thanks
[18:41] mgrunins: Sorry to hear about this though.
[18:42] Yousif Yalda: dude its whatever
[18:42] Yousif Yalda: i have an advertiser still paying me like 70k at the end of feb
[18:42] Yousif Yalda: and im keeping all of it
[18:42] Yousif Yalda: so ill pay u back with it
[18:58] Yousif Yalda: dude i fucking hate wf
[19:00] Yousif Yalda: it's full of peasants like ryan eagle and haters
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GrindHard said:
Now why would you make up a conversation like that? I am locked out of my AIM account.
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Dude, I'm just sharing what your hacked account is saying. You already sent out a newsletter saying it's hacked. I didn't make any fucking mention that this is specifically you or anything or even commented about it.

Chill the fuck out.
 
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grieve said:
Clearly this is some "Clash of the Titans" battle between the two, so there's not much else anyone else can contribute.. I WILL say though, honestly, that PKM and EWA are actually the only two networks I've ever been really happy with.

PKM has sorted out some payment issues with me, when advertisers have bailed on them, and I REALLY appreciate that... it's the sign of an honest business. The payment issues were of no fault of their own. On the other hand, EWA is a really respectable network as well. Love their community, it can be really helpful at times, and I respect what they've done for internet advertising.

They are the ONLY two networks that I've worked with where I'm absolutely happy with my affiliate managers - both of them know their shit. (Much love to Bogdan and Omar.) So... maybe this competition is a good thing? It has spawned two really solid networks with some promising longevity.
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Haven't tried PKM, but EWA ripped my first ever profitable campaign. Pay your AMs peanuts, and you get monkeys.
soulbyproxy said:
Call his bluff. In fact, run it at a loss. Oh and why isn't this illegal?
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It is.
Price fixing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I used PKM a while back, made a few hundred with them and payments were always prompt. I found Yousif to be very helpful and he threw a lot of information my way which helped campaigns.

GrindHard said:
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I'd say this is the most interesting point of the thread. Seems like Ryan likes to contact other affiliate networks to fix prices instead of fair competition in the market. It's not unexpected, just a rather scummy way of doing business. I find it rather disgraceful to see EWA Network spamming people for new sign ups, would be interesting to see someone push back and take them to court. As for hacking PKM's aim account and creating false threads on message boards, that's just downright dirty. I'd say it's time to start collecting evidence PKM and shut this fucker down. I'd say you could sue for a few hundred grand for slander and having your business interrupted.
 
GrindHard said:
Fast forward last week...

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Probably one of the most disturbing things I have seen on WF (and I have some really disturbing shit).

I honestly can't believe people aren't going wild at this move.

All the EWA/PKM is irrelevant shit, but doing this to McGrunin is just as wrong as you can get. In one fell swoop he has outed McGrunin's campaign and potentially got him into a huge issue with a C&D, and for what??? Nothing. McGrunin didn't do shit (that's if you can read properly) and even if he had done something this is totally unacceptable as it was a private convo between a network owner and an affiliate. Lower than low.
 
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