^ Good stuff. I like the mathematical approach. I should look at my campaigns that way more often. +rep for sharing.
Ppc doubts
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just took a look at crazyEgg, it seems like clicktale but clicktale basically gives you a video of exactly what ur user does ... not sure if crazy egg does that
first off, nicky case - nice.
there are no feeling in Affiliate Marketing. When you do get a gut feeling look at your data. If you don't have enough data then go get some more data.
And 50-100 clicks is not enough data - atleast not for me. I would have literally left millions on the table if I had judged offers on 100 clicks. And my theory is the deeper you dig the deeper your pockets get. I literally have an offer that we only run on Friday and Saturday from 8am to 7pm. Why? b/c that's what the data told me to do. What do I get for listening to it? About $800 profit and close to 150% ROI each Friday and Saturday.
God I am glad I didn't throw that out after the first 100 clicks when I tested it that Tues.
there are no feeling in Affiliate Marketing. When you do get a gut feeling look at your data. If you don't have enough data then go get some more data.
And 50-100 clicks is not enough data - atleast not for me. I would have literally left millions on the table if I had judged offers on 100 clicks. And my theory is the deeper you dig the deeper your pockets get. I literally have an offer that we only run on Friday and Saturday from 8am to 7pm. Why? b/c that's what the data told me to do. What do I get for listening to it? About $800 profit and close to 150% ROI each Friday and Saturday.
God I am glad I didn't throw that out after the first 100 clicks when I tested it that Tues.
For my anyway, trying to determine a campaign's immediate EPC after 100-500 clicks is trivial. If I know it's a hot campaign, if I know others are making a killing, then I know the quality is there, it's up to me to optimize what I've got and make it work. In other words, I go into the campaign knowing a huge EPC awaits, and if my #s are less than expected, I know it's me doing something wrong, not the offer.
Signed up for Clicktale. It will be interesting to see the recordings.
I think you hit the nail on the head there.
If you go through college and don't learn anything except how to use the graph below, then you still win.
I'm no math genius. Care to explain?
obviously it depends on the payout, but my point was that it IS (fact) possible to have sufficient data to know if a campaign is going to work or not (like I said, within a BALLPARK range) at 100 clicks
Exactly, and also exactly for everyone that mentioned how volatile stats can be.
100 clicks? 500 clicks? my balls, tomorrow you could see a 300% ROI where today you lost $100, I deal with tons of campaigns that make money some days, and take a loss others without changing anything. If it averages it out to a gain over time then it stays while I try and optimize it.
If you've ever read one of the 10,000 bullshit PPC courses out there you can tell most of them never had a profitable campaign in their lives because they like to say things like "then you just keep adding to your profitable campaigns and your a millionaire" as if you are going to make a 200% ROI everyday indefinitely now that you've found a magic fit of keyword plus lander.
It's an everyday hustle, and $50 ad spends aint going to cut it.
now we are on the exact same page of the exact same book
This is a pretty cool illustration of it, kinda reminds me of Plinko:
And yeah, there is a bit of science involved as well. You have to make sure all the balls are identical and they are dropped from exactly the same place.
LOL LMAO. haha thats great"You talkin' to me punk! I kick yo ass! I KICK YO ASS!"
LOL wtf are you running?
Out of all my campaigns I have ever ran, I've never had a campaign that did not have at least 5-6 days of stable EPC/CTR/ & LP CTR (if using a lander) - yes, based on the initial 100 clicks for several campaigns and 200-300 for others (in general).
I don't forecast ROI for the campaign until I have at least 10x the conversion rate worth of expense but I have never seen anything as jumpy as what you have suggested on a day-to-day basis *unless* the advertiser is a notorious shaver.
@sgtryan
Did you read that moron's post? He said 80 clicks is too much, he said he could measure if a campaign will work on 20-30 clicks. Do you fucking agree with that???
@Making Money
Dude, smart people posted why you are wrong, they even posted little graphs and even an experiment image to prove it (just so even if you have a low IQ you had a chance at grasping it), yet you go with the only person that sort-of agrees with you; and they only agreed with you because they didn't read your post well.
Damn are you fucking stupid, on top of being annoying, which we all already know about. :321: Please, please man, DP is calling, you could act like a baller there. I know it has been a great time for you, earning a full couple hundred dollars to buy you some weed or booze so you can take it after you get home from high school and you eat the meal your mommy cooked for you, but some people actually live off of this thing that you just discovered... and your bad advice is just un-cool.