Porn and Masturbation Addiction

[kingscotty38]

Just save loads for real women. If your fucking your girl 3-4 times a day I say it's all well and good because that's what you penis is made for. Raiding the pussies of women.

When you haven't whacked it for a while, the motivation to get real pussy rises exponentially day by day, even if you go to the grocery store, you will draw wood at fucking 6/10's and perhaps even be horny enough to talk to them out of the blue. Better than banging your hand IMO.

If you feel the need to whack it, or catch yourself touching your wang, just drop down and do stuff like 50-100 pushups, hard lift / chin ups or if you have access to a heavy bag, rape it with your fists etc. It will mimic our behavior like back in the day when we were hunter / gatherers when we actually needed to do strenuous physical activity to survive.

It's hard because I also had this habit in my teens and even until recently, but it gets WAY easier if you just sack up and resist the urge. I do a 7 day cycle, if I don't get laid then I can whack it. I feel fine and a little angrier / aggressive. Definitely not placebo. So I'm going to try for a lot longer and see I go. I'll try 2 weeks, then 3 etc.

There's a reason why Ali, Tyson, Rickson Gracie and a lot of top fighters wouldn't even ejaculate for 2-3 months a time. So they're fucking animals in the ring.

 

[seotower]

There's a reason why Ali, Tyson, Rickson Gracie and a lot of top fighters wouldn't even ejaculate for 2-3 months a time. So they're fucking animals in the ring.

Who told you about that sir or is it your personal experience with them.

 

[poisonsembrace]

When I was a teenage boy (90s), I got excited over the Victoria's Secret catalogs and softcore images I downloaded from the local BBS's. It was only towards the late 90's once I was already 17-18-19 that you could get reasonably easy access to a lot more hardcore type porn (but nothing compared to today).

You gotta wonder what impact porn has on the mind of a 12 year old boy in 2012. I can only imagine how their brains must explode going to all these tube sites and being overwhelmed by a selection of every type of fetish that exists. Maybe it's really no different to the catalogs that I kept - they got me rather excited yet they're just women in lingerie. I can't fucking imagine having these tube sites back when I was a teenager. I think I was 16 or so when I saw my first proper porno and it did my head in and in comparison, it'd probably be called softcore now.

 

[crythzuel]

i only got 1/3 of the way through this thread before having to rub one out. good thread.

if you have a porn addiction, its a problem.
if your girlfriend has a porn addiction, its a blessing.

 

[everlonglp3]

When I played semi-pro baseball, before big tournaments, our coach would straight up tell us not to have sex or fap or anything because it takes away from some physical and mental energy.

But I think I'm going to try this as well. I've been single for about a year now and have hooked up here and there. But when I tend to go out with my friends I don't seem to be as out going as I used to be or not care as much. I agree with what was said above, if you don't fap, you will have a huge sexual erge and will be more inclined to talk to women instead of being like "whatever", "no big deal." Although I've had a lucky streak the past couple of weeks. But I guess it could get better.

Plus I want to see if I can tell the difference in the gym. I can see how it could give me more energy in the gym and be more focused with what I'm working on so this shall be interesting.

 

[gcad1981]

Well I never had an actual Addiction, per se, Especially because in my formulative years I could never wrest control of the family VCR long enough to really watch porn around the house often.

But between the internet and Marriage there were a few years when I did get a bit complacent and not be interested enough to chase chicks from time to time and it's generally a bad thing, I agree.

But then again, it has its' good points too... If you're studying for an exam or working on a time-sensitive project, it's by FAR better to rub one out when needed than it is to let your hormones distract you.

So as long as our bodies keep trying to force us to procreate, (I hope to see that problem solved within my lifetime) then I'd say having teenagers addicted to porn is kind of a good thing as long as they are educated about the alternative.

Heck, If I was a parent and my young son was getting his first erection, I think I'd throw him a Real Doll and allow a few of the more tame tube sites through his firewall. It's certainly get better grades if he's not always worried about girls at school.

I don't think there are any good points to having our brains or our cocks operating at sub-par levels. Also, I'd want my son to be a pussy annihilating machine, that is one way of measuring success in a man, is it not? After all, our biological duty is to insert our genes into womens, all the womens have to do is raise the babies.

If you haven't read it already, I suggest you read The Brain That Changes Itself by Norman Doidge. It's a fucking awesome book, and one chapter in it will show you clearly why that's a Bad Idea.

Going to check this one out, thanks for the recommendation.

Honestly, as usual moderation is probably the best solution here. If you're not getting laid on a regular basis (2-3 times a week) it's probably healthy to jerk it every now and then. Why? My guess is that without any stimulation at all you'll eventually lose strength down there. When giving up porn addiction, sure you might feel great as you regain strength that was lost from battering your dick 2-3 times a day.. but then you'll probably lose it again with zero workout whatsoever over time.

Plus I've heard stuff about maintaining prostate health.. but unsure exactly what they mean about that.

Good luck waiting for a consensus among scientists on what the best way to go is.. M.D.s still can't even agree on the healthiest way to eat (Vegan, Low-Carb, or mixed).

I agree, the main goal is to ditch the porn addiction. When I feel I have my porn urges under control, depending on the girlfriend/fuck buddy situation, I probably will fap once a week. But to successfully complete the reboot it is 90 days of no porn or masturbation.

As far as prostate health is concerned, my understanding is that most men will have issues in this area as they age anyway, the thing just gets bigger as we age. It's fair to assume that most men masturbate, so how do we know that masturbation is not the cause of prostate problems? I tend to think it is more a genetic lottery thing. My father had his prostate removed in his late 60's due to cancer, so if I inherited his genes, I'm fucked.

That video is gold!

While doing research for a project I'm working on, I've also come across studies that say that brains get desensitized by porn and over time seek out harder and harder types to get a shot of dopamine.

Basically: When you first start watching porn a simple pic of a naked chick gets you off. Then watching a video of a simple bj will do. Shortly thereafter regular sex won't do and folks migrate to anal... from there depending on the individual it gets harder and harder and people lose a sense of what's 'normal'. Next thing you know it's gangbangs, bukkake, S&M, Ass to mouth, bisex, bestiality and midgets that get the brain to fire that dopamine....

Yeah this pretty much echoes my experience. I've even heard of straight guys getting into gay and tranny porn to get their kicks. The more you get addicted, the weirder the fetishes can get. My fetishes even carried over into the bedroom, although nothing too unusual fortunately. When it starts to affect your life, you know you've got issues!

Just save loads for real women. If your fucking your girl 3-4 times a day I say it's all well and good because that's what you penis is made for. Raiding the pussies of women.

When you haven't whacked it for a while, the motivation to get real pussy rises exponentially day by day, even if you go to the grocery store, you will draw wood at fucking 6/10's and perhaps even be horny enough to talk to them out of the blue. Better than banging your hand IMO.

If you feel the need to whack it, or catch yourself touching your wang, just drop down and do stuff like 50-100 pushups, hard lift / chin ups or if you have access to a heavy bag, rape it with your fists etc. It will mimic our behavior like back in the day when we were hunter / gatherers when we actually needed to do strenuous physical activity to survive.

It's hard because I also had this habit in my teens and even until recently, but it gets WAY easier if you just sack up and resist the urge. I do a 7 day cycle, if I don't get laid then I can whack it. I feel fine and a little angrier / aggressive. Definitely not placebo. So I'm going to try for a lot longer and see I go. I'll try 2 weeks, then 3 etc.

There's a reason why Ali, Tyson, Rickson Gracie and a lot of top fighters wouldn't even ejaculate for 2-3 months a time. So they're fucking animals in the ring.

That's beautiful man, I am dealing with it in a similar fashion, except I go to the gym (24 hr gym) when it's driving me insane and I feel as though I just have to release. Also the 7 day cycle is good advice, I think once my reboot is finished I'll do something similar.

If no sex for 7 days then fap.

I can't fucking imagine having these tube sites back when I was a teenager. I think I was 16 or so when I saw my first proper porno and it did my head in and in comparison, it'd probably be called softcore now.

It is a concern, what effect is porn is having on future generations of men? At the same time, it's a good thing, less competition for guys who have a healthy sexual desire not marred by porn.

 

[Moxie]

Kony Fail - its shit like this that drives a man to masturbate naked in

 

[wayn3]

This shit again.

I dont know who causes that crap, but I believe its psychiatrists creating a market for themselves. Just like the fat who blame the pancreas malfunction. Youre socially awkward so you read about sociophobia and are somehow then relieved of any of your duties as a human being to put your life to good use because youve officially got a disease that can or can not be cured but is definitely out of your control. You read about porn addiction. Same thing.

When youve got a real phobia, if you get into the situation that triggers it, you literally cant breath anymore. Youll feel sick to your stomach. Slight mental displeasure is not a disease.

You know what a real addiction looks like? There are certain drugs that if youre addicted to them and decide to just go unsupervised cold turkey, you literally die. Not because it feels bad in your brain but because your body chemistry is messed up to a point where it cant fix itself anymore.

If you wank twice a day and then cant get hard with a girl, maybe its just because you overuse that function of your body. You know, it actually serves a function. Its about making babies. If you shoot your load out two times a day maybe your body cant keep up with the production and says "oh noes were out of equipment, no more sex today". If you honestly believe that you can apply some hacked up garbage solution by one of those pickup artist faggots, youre just a faggot. You got faggots disease, not porn addiction.

What it comes down to is willpower. Youve got none because in the 40 something years you lived you never had to. Somethingsomething addiction my ass.

In my shittier years someone actually tried to convince me of the fact that ive got television addiction. know what ive got? lazy fat piece of shit syndrome. theres an "easy" cure for that. decide to change something about your life. aint as easy as dropping placebos and being eased into the fact that your life is a whole bunch of shit, but definitely more rewarding

 

[Moxie]

This shit again.

I dont know who causes that crap, but I believe its psychiatrists creating a market for themselves. Just like the fat who blame the pancreas malfunction. Youre socially awkward so you read about sociophobia and are somehow then relieved of any of your duties as a human being to put your life to good use because youve officially got a disease that can or can not be cured but is definitely out of your control. You read about porn addiction. Same thing.

When youve got a real phobia, if you get into the situation that triggers it, you literally cant breath anymore. Youll feel sick to your stomach. Slight mental displeasure is not a disease.

You know what a real addiction looks like? There are certain drugs that if youre addicted to them and decide to just go unsupervised cold turkey, you literally die. Not because it feels bad in your brain but because your body chemistry is messed up to a point where it cant fix itself anymore.

If you wank twice a day and then cant get hard with a girl, maybe its just because you overuse that function of your body. You know, it actually serves a function. Its about making babies. If you shoot your load out two times a day maybe your body cant keep up with the production and says "oh noes were out of equipment, no more sex today". If you honestly believe that you can apply some hacked up garbage solution by one of those pickup artist faggots, youre just a faggot. You got faggots disease, not porn addiction.

What it comes down to is willpower. Youve got none because in the 40 something years you lived you never had to. Somethingsomething addiction my ass.

In my shittier years someone actually tried to convince me of the fact that ive got television addiction. know what ive got? lazy fat piece of shit syndrome. theres an "easy" cure for that. decide to change something about your life. aint as easy as dropping placebos and being eased into the fact that your life is a whole bunch of shit, but definitely more rewarding

Changes in neural brain circuitry and withdrawal symptoms have been reported in studies done on gambling addicts. "Willpower" is required to defeat all addictions, whether substance-abuse related or not.


Behavioral addiction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Porn Acts Like Cocaine On The Brain

 

[kingscotty38]

This shit again.

I dont know who causes that crap, but I believe its psychiatrists creating a market for themselves. Just like the fat who blame the pancreas malfunction. Youre socially awkward so you read about sociophobia and are somehow then relieved of any of your duties as a human being to put your life to good use because youve officially got a disease that can or can not be cured but is definitely out of your control. You read about porn addiction. Same thing.

When youve got a real phobia, if you get into the situation that triggers it, you literally cant breath anymore. Youll feel sick to your stomach. Slight mental displeasure is not a disease.

You know what a real addiction looks like? There are certain drugs that if youre addicted to them and decide to just go unsupervised cold turkey, you literally die. Not because it feels bad in your brain but because your body chemistry is messed up to a point where it cant fix itself anymore.

If you wank twice a day and then cant get hard with a girl, maybe its just because you overuse that function of your body. You know, it actually serves a function. Its about making babies. If you shoot your load out two times a day maybe your body cant keep up with the production and says "oh noes were out of equipment, no more sex today". If you honestly believe that you can apply some hacked up garbage solution by one of those pickup artist faggots, youre just a faggot. You got faggots disease, not porn addiction.

What it comes down to is willpower. Youve got none because in the 40 something years you lived you never had to. Somethingsomething addiction my ass.

In my shittier years someone actually tried to convince me of the fact that ive got television addiction. know what ive got? lazy fat piece of shit syndrome. theres an "easy" cure for that. decide to change something about your life. aint as easy as dropping placebos and being eased into the fact that your life is a whole bunch of shit, but definitely more rewarding

I agree, I personally don't think there's such a thing as psychological / mental addiction. I think it's just plain weak mindedness. Lets just say if you're getting withdrawal symptoms because you aren't whacking your dick, you are a weak piece of shit and probably deserve to get weeded out of the gene pool.

People often forget to treat their bodies like a system. Put shit in + neglect exercise, you will feel shit. Put good in + exercise, you will feel good. Simple as that. For me the cutting down on masturbation was an experiment to see if there were any positives that arose from it.

I NEVER saw pornography as a "problem" nor was I ever "addicted" to it. When I made a conscious decision to cut down on the masturbation, yeah it was hard, but not THAT hard. Hard in the way completing an annoying level in Super Mario is about the difficulty I'm talking about. I just saw it as another experiment to see if it would improve my overall performance as a person.

I concluded that there were some positives which were definitely not placebo after my experiment, so I decided to keep on experimenting with different time ranges etc.

But yeah, I do agree that people who think that they are afflicted with some sort of disease when they're looking at too much porno don't know a real addiction if it shot a load on their face.

 

[erect]

Superstitious voodoo addiction garbage makes me laugh as it's mostly for the sheeple who believed the Academy of Tobacco Studies and people looking for a disease to fit a habit they don't like in someone else.

Before making a disease out of something betas have been doing since cave days, talk to someone with a real addition ... or fuck, just look at some pictures of meth heads. Dem dots are easy to connect.

 

[JoseArmando]

Superstitious voodoo addiction garbage makes me laugh as it's mostly for the sheeple who believed the Academy of Tobacco Studies and people looking for a disease to fit a habit they don't like in someone else.

Before making a disease out of something betas have been doing since cave days, talk to someone with a real addition ... or fuck, just look at some pictures of meth heads. Dem dots are easy to connect.

It's not black and white and even though it sometimes kinda looks like it makes sense to polarize it, there's actually shades of grey with addictions.

I don't think anyone claimed that the type of addiction we're talking about here is a disease but merely a habit that's so deeply ingrained it started to severely effect OPs lifestyle.

We can call it addiction or just "bad habit" but bad habit has a connotation of something that's easily changed whereas people that are "addicted" to porn/sugar/fastfood usually have trouble changing it.

I say, use whatever language that helps you understand the severity of your condition and take appropriate action but arguing about it literally serves no purpose.

 

[blogginginc]

Restraint yourself 15 days without masturbating or wathing porn, if you can hold that long, its guaranteed you will not only regain sensitivity, but also perform great.

 

[Fiver]

OP, read this:

Why Do I Find Porn More Exciting Than A Partner? | Your Brain On Porn

 

[erect]

I say, use whatever language that helps you understand the severity of your condition and take appropriate action but arguing about it literally serves no purpose.

Calling things like porn addictive implies a disease and is flat out insulting to people with real addictions. And it honestly sounds as stupid as saying you're addicted to your iphone.

How about calling it a hobby that's great exercise, that's more truthful.

 

[Tobias Funke]

 

[Dwight Schrute]

If anyone reading this thread is having issues achieving or maintaining an erection, please send me a PM.

I have several creams and pills that can help.*

*Disclaimer: On the advice of my attorney, I must inform you that this is not intended to treat, diagnose, or cure a medical condition. Only take these if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. For an erection lasting longer than four hours, please call jeffrey. He'll take care of that shit real fast.

 

[gcad1981]

Thanks for the opinions fellas.

I disagree with the notion that this is not an addiction. Quite frankly, I don't care either. I said it, I meant it, I'm here to represent it. You can call it compulsive behaviour if semantics are really important to you, call it whatever you want, call it a bad habit, faggotry, whatever you like.

I have to give it a negative connotation in my mind to be able to deal with this, if I accept it as normal behaviour, as most do, then I would not need to give it up and I would go about my merry way wasting perfectly good energy on two-dimensional images. Now I can truly say that I respect what I spend my energy on.

I do agree that substance addictions are a lot more destructive but that does not mean that a porn or masturbation addiction/compulsion/habit/[insert label] is not at all destructive. As someone else said, there are grey areas with addictions as there are with many things in life. Masturbating to porn isn't going to make you lose internal organs or die from dehydration, at the worst you'll give yourself friction burns. Yes, I agree it is nowhere near as severe as a heroine addiction.

To those of you bringing my will power in to question, I agree that this addiction is controllable with will power but to suggest that I lack will power is ignorant of my circumstances. The reason I did not give up this behaviour is because I thought it was making a positive impact in my life, I thought jacking off to porn was great and still do like the idea of it because it makes me feel good and who the fuck does not like to feel good?

If anything what I lacked was education or knowledge, so if you want to call me ignorant, then I agree with you and that is your best angle of attack. I had no fucking idea that what I was doing was affecting my brain's dopamine levels, I had no idea that my cock was never fully erect, I had no idea that taking too long to come was a bad thing, I had no idea that I was desensitising my cock with my death grip.

Once I was made aware of the issues surrounding porn and masturbation addiction I immediately decided to stop. I think that shows effective will power. Sure I gave in and masturbated after 2 days the first try, but I stopped again immediately afterwards and it has now been 19 days without masturbating or looking at porn and I feel as though I can withhold myself eternally if I had to.

 

[Moxie]

Calling things like porn addictive implies a disease and is flat out insulting to people with real addictions.

People who have ruined their lives from gambling or playing World of Warcraft too much would disagree. A billion dollars fits the definition of money, but so does a penny.


Dopamine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dopamine plays a major role in the brain system that is responsible for reward-driven learning. Every type of reward that has been studied increases the level of dopamine transmission in the brain, and a variety of highly addictive drugs, including stimulants such as cocaine and methamphetamine, act directly on the dopamine system.


Excessive dopamine stimulation (for whatever reason) can lead to literal changes in the brain. The brain tries to adjust by lowering the amount of dopamine receptors, which then creates lower lows, which then creates an increased drive towards the source of pleasure. "Addiction" is a medical definition that has to do with that drive.

Heroin might lower dopamine receptors a lot more than gambling, but the same process is going on in this regard.

 

[avatar33]

Thank you for your share, I hope that he can help to the people around me. Including me.

Ohh Larry... stop complaining.