Peanut Butter - The Atheist's Nightmare

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Peanut Butter, The Atheist's Nightmare![/ame]

Came across the little gem when settling an argument as to whether peanut butter is good for you.

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@first two replies.

Just in case you're not kidding.... it's a ridiculous straw man argument.

It's like me saying "if you go swimming in the everglades with slabs of bloody steak strapped to you, there's a good you'll be attacked by an alligator."

And you replying "well the everglades is in America. New York is America. If I run round New York covered in steak, I'll won't be attacked by an alligator. Therefore your argument is false."

For a start they're attacking abiogenesis with the peanut butter argument, and then claiming it applies to evolution. The two are totally separate.

And also, theories of abiogenesis apply to very specific circumstances. The possibility of abiogenesis from peanut butter is taken from a misunderstanding of those circumstances, where the original conditions no longer apply.
 
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I thought the banana was the nightmare of the atheist

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A&feature=related]YouTube - Atheist Nightmare[/ame]

It's no small coincidence that when any atheist eats a peanut butter banana sandwich their head instantly explodes in a fit of divine frustration.
 
evolution is obviously legit..

that being said I also believe in god and don't think evolution debunks religion in any way like "ultra-darwinists" say it does, in fact it actually complements the bible just people think the two views oppose each other because they take bible scripture literally and misinterpret (especially the book of genesis).

darwin (the man who came up with the theory of evolution) believed in god even after coming up with and documenting his theory, he only lost his faith once his young daughter died of disease. many top scientists and evolution experts believe in god..

unfortunately the theory of evolution was adopted by hardline athiests as a supposed means to disprove god but those people sound just as retarded as the douchebag in this video.
 
wf_prospect said:
evolution is obviously legit..

that being said I also believe in god and don't think evolution debunks religion in any way like "ultra-darwinists" say it does, in fact it actually complements the bible just people think the two views oppose each other because they take bible scripture literally and misinterpret (especially the book of genesis).

darwin (the man who came up with the theory of evolution) believed in god even after coming up with and documenting his theory, he only lost his faith once his young daughter died of disease. many top scientists and evolution experts believe in god..

unfortunately the theory of evolution was adopted by hardline athiests as a supposed means to disprove god but those people sound just as retarded as the douchebag in this video.
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Yep - agree with that. Hardline atheists are as bad as biblical fundamentalists imo.
 
wf_prospect said:
unfortunately the theory of evolution was adopted by hardline athiests as a supposed means to disprove god but those people sound just as retarded as the douchebag in this video.
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Atheists haven't adopted the theory of evolution as a supposed means to disprove god, the god squad debunk their own religious views by denying evolution and championing creationism. The people in the middle say that everyone is entitled to their views and there is no right or wrong, but they are mistaken there is a right and wrong and all of the evidence points towards evolution and NO evidence points toward creationism.

Belief alone does not make something so no matter how hard they/you want it to.

P.S. Those videos are ridiculous and do not follow any train of logic thought. The stupidity astounds me.
 
This is fucking ridiculous. I won't listen to any argument that doesn't use organic peanut butter.
 
amateursurgeon said:
@first two replies.

Just in case you're not kidding.... it's a ridiculous straw man argument.

It's like me saying "if you go swimming in the everglades with slabs of bloody steak strapped to you, there's a good you'll be attacked by an alligator."

And you replying "well the everglades is in America. New York is America. If I run round New York covered in steak, I'll won't be attacked by an alligator. Therefore your argument is false."

For a start they're attacking abiogenesis with the peanut butter argument, and then claiming it applies to evolution. The two are totally separate.

And also, theories of abiogenesis apply to very specific circumstances. The possibility of abiogenesis from peanut butter is taken from a misunderstanding of those circumstances, where the original conditions no longer apply.
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How are the conditions different?
 
justo_tx said:
I thought the banana was the nightmare of the atheist

YouTube - Atheist Nightmare

It's no small coincidence that when any atheist eats a peanut butter banana sandwich their head instantly explodes in a fit of divine frustration.
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this guy is a fucking moron. Everywhere else in the world people open and eat bananas on the end opposite the stem. Even monkeys know how to open a banana properly - Americans are the only ones who open it from the end with the stem.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYvJWj5QQuc"]YouTube - monkey eating a banana[/ame]
 
Shaqsquash said:
Those aren't new species chief, they are newly "discovered". Theres a difference.
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How do you know? Do you hang around the Amazon often? I think it would be pretty dumb to think in such a rich ecosystem that you wouldn't see difference species adapt or change over time because it's all about survival.
 
Ar Scion said:
How are the conditions different?
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For starters, most abiogenesis theories are based around a chemically reducing atmosphere, low in O2, high in ammonia, methane, and hydrogen sulfide. That's required for basic molecules to organise into amino acids.

Last time I checked, Peanut Butter wasn't stored in those conditions. I'm not sure it would taste very good if it was.

Also - abiogenesis <> evolution. Evolution is uncontroversial amongst scientists, and the evidence supports it clearly.

Abiogenesis is not at all settled - lots of different theories, most have different problems.

However they are independent. You could, for instance, claim that God created the first life forms, and then let them evolve from there, without disputing any of evolution.
 
Rage9 said:
How do you know? Do you hang around the Amazon often? I think it would be pretty dumb to think in such a rich ecosystem that you wouldn't see difference species adapt or change over time because it's all about survival.
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Yes, I'm there pretty much every day and they are in fact NEW species. They seem to love bananas as well and they open it steam first (take that ipwnnoobs!).

:xmas-smiley-010: <== not a new species that lives in the amazon.
 
amateursurgeon said:
For starters, most abiogenesis theories are based around a chemically reducing atmosphere, low in O2, high in ammonia, methane, and hydrogen sulfide. That's required for basic molecules to organise into amino acids.

Last time I checked, Peanut Butter wasn't stored in those conditions. I'm not sure it would taste very good if it was.

Also - abiogenesis <> evolution. Evolution is uncontroversial amongst scientists, and the evidence supports it clearly.

Abiogenesis is not at all settled - lots of different theories, most have different problems.

However they are independent. You could, for instance, claim that God created the first life forms, and then let them evolve from there, without disputing any of evolution.
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You're right.

The argument doesn't take into consideration the conditions necessary for abiogenesis to take place.
 
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