Outing your bad tips: awesome blog
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In other cultures tipping is not accepted, hosts in Japan will refuse your tip but yet still provide a level of service unmatched in North America.
All the idiots working these crappy jobs and feeling entitled pisses me off, why should you expect to make $25/hour serving food or drinks?
All the idiots working these crappy jobs and feeling entitled pisses me off, why should you expect to make $25/hour serving food or drinks?
I believe in other countries where tipping is generally optional, the wait staff makes a much higher base wage. In the US, the minimum wage for tipped employees is around $2.13, and they are expected to make the rest up in tips to meet the $7.25 or whatever it is normal minimum wage.
I tip based on the quality of service. If you're an amazing waiter and you bring me everything I want before I ask for it, I'll drop a huge tip. If you're a shitty waiter and you're nowhere to be found when I need something and you're unfriendly, you don't get shit.
i hate tipping. i do it, but i hate it. i tip some mostly-fair amount when things are decent or acceptable, but if service is slow or crappy, i leave $1 just so they know i think they're a fuckup. and i think even $1 is generous -- that's $1 more they made, because i deemed them "worthy" of it, even though they suck at their job, and if i was their boss, i'd fire them. i regularly think i'm insane for throwing away so much money ($5, $10, $20 tips? even if i spend $200 on a meal, i can't imagine how you'd earn more than $3 for carrying it to me from the kitchen, 20 feet away) but the self-pitying service industry has perverted the culture so badly that people like me are stigmatised as cheap assholes, instead of a paying customer who's paying full price.
+1 to the "fuck this guy" sentiments above: OP's link to blog is just entitled lazy service industry fucks complaining about how shitty the service industry is, instead of either a) getting out of the service industry, or b) acknowledging they haven't the wherewithal to do anything better. if your job pays so shitty, get a better job.
christ, i can only imagine the brain-exploding epiphanies about to strike this dumb mother fucker who built that whiny piece of shit website, as his site gets overrun with his own breed of chumps and bums rushing to agree with him and inadvertently filling his pockets with ad revenue that he never even intended to make. i hope he flogs himself rightously when he realizes how long ago he should have quit his dead-end position serving milkshakes to fat bitches begging their whims for scraps and quarters, and instead, you know, take his earnings into his own hands. i'd say "good on him", but as he had no idea wtf he was doing and only intended to fill the internet with more whiney crap, fuck that guy entirely, i hope he chokes on a side salad.
just talking about this gets me so pissed off i'm ready to poop my pants shit FUCK AUGHGHGHGHGH
+1 to the "fuck this guy" sentiments above: OP's link to blog is just entitled lazy service industry fucks complaining about how shitty the service industry is, instead of either a) getting out of the service industry, or b) acknowledging they haven't the wherewithal to do anything better. if your job pays so shitty, get a better job.
christ, i can only imagine the brain-exploding epiphanies about to strike this dumb mother fucker who built that whiny piece of shit website, as his site gets overrun with his own breed of chumps and bums rushing to agree with him and inadvertently filling his pockets with ad revenue that he never even intended to make. i hope he flogs himself rightously when he realizes how long ago he should have quit his dead-end position serving milkshakes to fat bitches begging their whims for scraps and quarters, and instead, you know, take his earnings into his own hands. i'd say "good on him", but as he had no idea wtf he was doing and only intended to fill the internet with more whiney crap, fuck that guy entirely, i hope he chokes on a side salad.
just talking about this gets me so pissed off i'm ready to poop my pants shit FUCK AUGHGHGHGHGH
I think you're forgetting that we live in the US and people here can't understand that concept.
It depends on the state. I often hear about the $2.13/hr "server wage" as justification for tipping in the United States, but less than half of the states actually have it.
What about servers in states that don't have the lower "server wage"?
Wait staff gets at least minimum wage + tips here in MN and multiple other states. They get at least $8.55/hr plus tips in the state of Washington, $8.40+ in Oregon, $8.00+ in California.
Should servers making $8.55/hr in Washington be tipped the same as servers making a $2.13/hr in New Jersey?
as someone who's worked in food service in my college days, i can say that most food service jobs suck. the pay's pretty shitty and the people (customers) are worse. you want to talk about entitlement, look at the schleps who are never satisfied with their service making a food service person's life a living hell.
bad service shouldn't get tipped huge, but good service deserves it. thats what tips means - to insure prompt service. throw out a couple bucks and make a person with a generally shitty job's day.
:: awaits all the cheap ass "ballers" complaining about tipping ::
bad service shouldn't get tipped huge, but good service deserves it. thats what tips means - to insure prompt service. throw out a couple bucks and make a person with a generally shitty job's day.
:: awaits all the cheap ass "ballers" complaining about tipping ::
Here in eastern europe tips aren't expected, but aren't refused. Yet the service typically sucks because hosts have no other incentives to do well. In America, at least I have the option of leaving a shitty tip if I'm unhappy with the service.
Why don't the restaurants pay their staff more? Why get pissed at the customers because the restaurant is stiffing the staff?
Tips have been and should always be a "thank you" for good service and shouldn't be expected or compulsory, or risk bad service or something in your food next time, or the worse, the confrontation of the member of staff being very brusk and saying "was there something wrong with the service". It's quite pathetic. If that ever happened to me I would never return to a restaurant.
Servers do do a very demanding job and deserve to get paid a decent WAGE and if they don't do their job properly (i.e. not give across a good image to the customers) they should get fired. If this means putting up prices to cover the increase in wage then so be it. Then it's up to the business to compete and give a better experience.
Tips have been and should always be a "thank you" for good service and shouldn't be expected or compulsory, or risk bad service or something in your food next time, or the worse, the confrontation of the member of staff being very brusk and saying "was there something wrong with the service". It's quite pathetic. If that ever happened to me I would never return to a restaurant.
Servers do do a very demanding job and deserve to get paid a decent WAGE and if they don't do their job properly (i.e. not give across a good image to the customers) they should get fired. If this means putting up prices to cover the increase in wage then so be it. Then it's up to the business to compete and give a better experience.
Seriously... if you don't like the concept of tipping when you eat out, make your own food. People who work in restaurants do so because they earn a living from tips. That's the only reason they show up.
Believe it or not... not everyone who isn't wealthy deserves to be mistreated.
Hate tipping sooooo much. It's not my fault your not smart enough to get a real job. If anyone deserves a tip its the chef not the dam waiter. Your accepting the shitty wage that they give you, quit and get a real job or don't bitch about my tip.
Note - I have worked in a restaurant, as a chef. Waiters are lazy pricks
Note - I have worked in a restaurant, as a chef. Waiters are lazy pricks
japan completely beats our ass in service. The guy at the 7-11 over there tries harder than 95% of american workers. and no tips.
really makes you think.
really makes you think.
This is the main idea though. GOOD SERVICE. Most waiters are poor to average at best, so they get a poor to average tip. Of course, if the service is incredibly good, then they get an incredibly good tip. They can earn their money just like the rest of us.
I hate tipping as well, but generally tip 10%. If that's not good enough for them fuck em.
When I was younger I was a bus boy and the only tips we got were the ones we could steal before the waiters took it. That sounds kind of fucked up, but the job we were doing was a hell of a lot more work and was fucking gross for the most part.