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quickpost said:
Does anyone have a suggestion for a good CPA Affiliate for newbs? I've done some arbi, but no affiliate marketing.

I've looked at the Ad List (http://www.wickedfire.com/newbie-questions/187-list-ad-networks.html) but I'm not sure which ones offer the best zip / email submits (or surveys) that would work with this concept (i.e. allow incentives).
Any ideas appreciated... :food-smiley-010:
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As far as I know there is no zip/email submit offers which allow you using incentives!
Offers which allow incentives are higher pay out sales offers. :)
 
Michel Z. said:
As far as I know there is no zip/email submit offers which allow you using incentives!
Offers which allow incentives are higher pay out sales offers. :)
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That might be even better! You might actually get more total money out of that.
 
paycoguy said:
That might be even better! You might actually get more total money out of that.
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Hey buddy!
But nobody is going to fill out a whole form or buy something in order to get the password... That's why email/ZIP submit works so well with this concept!
 
Michael Z. said:
But nobody is going to fill out a whole form or buy something in order to get the password... That's why email/ZIP submit works so well with this concept!
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Yeah this is more about morals and ethics, the aff companies won't know how the person got there because they are going direct, so you just make a page on your site and redirect it from that.

This could make a buttload if you go the right way about it, but if you get caught up with morals and ethics and doing the right thing about the network, you might as well just leave this thread now :)
 
illusion said:
Yeah this is more about morals and ethics, the aff companies won't know how the person got there because they are going direct, so you just make a page on your site and redirect it from that.

This could make a buttload if you go the right way about it, but if you get caught up with morals and ethics and doing the right thing about the network, you might as well just leave this thread now :)
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Yeah you are right... The problem is that advertisers don't receive quality
ZIP/email submits this way (which is next used for database/email marketing or whatever those companies do with your email or ZIP code). Your visitors are not really interested in a free ipod for example but to get the password in order to see this porn movie! :)
 
Michael Z. said:
ZIP/email submits this way (which is next used for database/email marketing or whatever those companies do with your email or ZIP code). Your visitors are not really interested in a free ipod for example but to get the password in order to see this porn movie!
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That is where your morals and ethics come into play, you have to think, do you want to spend money and give the advertisers good quality visitors or do you want to just screw them and give them volume of some crappy emails
 
Michel Z. said:
Yeah you are right... The problem is that advertisers don't receive quality
ZIP/email submits this way (which is next used for database/email marketing or whatever those companies do with your email or ZIP code). Your visitors are not really interested in a free ipod for example but to get the password in order to see this porn movie! :)
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So merchants are going to be getting completely crap traffic, obviously. Unless, possibly you make them find a password on a porn site... but are there any porn sites with lead programs? Probably not...

So that's the only problem I see with this idea, merchants getting crap traffic. My question is, will merchants lower your pay per lead or possibly cancel your account altogether? If I was a merchant and none of the leads were converting, I know I would.

I guess you could constantly find new programs, create new accounts, and rotate, etc. etc. I see it being worth the work, but spectacular if you could engineer it in a way where accounts are not being canceled.

Anyway, I think this is a great idea, I'm definitely going to start playing around with this.

Thanks, havoc!
 
Yeah i suppose its all in the eye of the beholder. I know i made a lot and never had any problems, not to say you wont i spose
 
So havoc, none of your affiliate accounts ever got cancelled?

Is it best to have people go to a site that redirects them to the merchant? Instead of saying go to www.xxxxxx .com/affiliatecodeXYZ435 you could have them go to www.xxxx. com which then redirects them. Then you mask the referring url so the merchant won't go there and figure out what you are doing. Or is it better just to send them to www.xxxxxx .com/affiliatecodeXYZ435 so it appears to the merchant as a direct type in. Probably just easier to go with the second one, but are people more likely to leave out your code I wonder? (Actually probably not, that's a stupid question, they want to make sure and get the correct password)

Hey, just thought of this. Create a web page and put that into your zipped directory. Then when they double click it opens in IE or Firefox, where they simply read it and click. I'm wondering what the referring url will say when they are coming from a page from their harddrive? Would that even make a difference?

I guess I can just do a quick test for myself...

Oh yeah and havoc, sent you a PM.
 
shit. wait guys so that's only for USA citizens right? cuz when people that have downloaded the torrent from other countriers try to visit the ZIP submit page they'll get caught by some geotargetting script and redirected somewhere else or something. so they won't be able to get the password.
 
Alright I've been doing a bit more research and while reading CPAEmpire's TOS I came across this.


J. It is the OBLIGATION of the Affiliate to prove to Optin that they are NOT committing fraud. Optin will hold your payment in 'Pending Status' until you have satisfactorily provided evidence that you are not defrauding the system. We flag accounts that:

i. Have click-through rates that are much higher than industry averages and where solid justification is not evident

ii. Have ONLY click programs generating clicks with no indication by site traffic that it can sustain the clicks reported

iii. Have shown fraudulent leads as determined by our clients

iv. Use fake redirects, automated software, and/or fraud to generate clicks or leads from our programs


Obviously people using this technique will have to worry about both iii and iv. I wonder what the clients use to determine if they are fraudulent leads or not. I mean they will be unique people, coming from unique ip addresses, just none of them will convert. Could they use the measure of no conversions to determine fraudulent leads. Or does that measure just indicate crap leads not fraudulent.

 
do you guys think any of the cpa companys would try to sue or anything for this, i don't give a fuck about getting banned but i'm kind of worried about them taking the money back for fraud.
 
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