Off-Line Affiliate Marketing for CC's - Kind of...

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Has your brother been aggressive with up-selling to his current customers? For example, he should have his employees recommending products that will give them a healthier looking, darker tan, lotions for dry skin and acne, etc. Also, diet products/pills, etc should be an easy sell to these customers.

He definitely should be collecting email addresses to promote future tanning specials and to keep in contact with past customers. You can ask people direct for their email address when he puts them into a database for their profiles at the counter. Or you could entice them with a few free tans or product samples.
I honestly can't answer any of those questions. I'm not involved in his business really at all other than asking him "How's business" once in a while and managng his website but it's nothing more than a few pages of contact info, weekly specials etc... Although they can "Subscribe" to his Specials so he probably has some emails. Id' have to look... But, like any business person, he's always up for ideas on making a buck.

Free tans would be the way to go since they only cost him pennies, problem is figuring out how to attach an incentive to those free tans so he still gets something out of them.
 


Something you are missing is the fact that you are going to have all of these leads coming from the same IP.

Don't you think that will raise some red flags?
Sorry, should have responded to everyone in one post. Oh well.

Yeah it probably would. Here is my other thought....

At the grocery store here, when you check out they say hand you the receipt and say... "If you go to the web site at the bottom of the receipt and fill out the survey, come back with your confirmation number and you get a free loaf of bread".

So that may work too. Hand them a "coupon" when they come in or as they're leaving that says "Got to this site, fill out an application and bring in your confirmation for 3 free tanning sessions!" Who knows, maybe they'll send that link to a few freinds and say "Hey! get some free tans!"

Problem there is, is there anyway to verify their application? probably not.

My friend used to manage one here and no way would francisees be allowed to do that - the control they have on the brand (here at least) is ridiculous, stores aren't even allowed to reduce prices on their own. (Finding out how they worked really put me off considering buying any franchise.)
Actually, My brother was originally tying to get a subway franchise. It ended up being such a nightmare he gave up and opened his tanning salon.

Sounds like a great idea though, maybe something really targeting the demographic? Do The Body Shop or similar have a credit card? (A store card might even work) Or some sort of cosmetics, perfume, etc subscription? Gym membership? (partner with another local business?)
Sorry, I know I'm all over the place here. doing too many things at one I can't concentrate. :)

That's a good idea though, I didn't think about a "Store specific credit card" I'll look into that too.
 
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If you can get them to complete the application online, try to get something that will allow you a custom "Thank you page" after the credit card application that you can have a code generator on. This would also be very easy to track from your computer to reduce people from falsely filling in the code.

Problem with getting the custom thank you page is most advertisers want to be able to retain the user on their page as long as possible.

Report back anything you find out, good thread
 
Fuck, i just typed this whole elaborate reply and accidentally hit alt-r and now its gone, lol. Here's the abbreviated version.

Subways are individually owned by franchisees, at least here on the east coast that I know of. They are indeed a pain in the ass to get started, I should know, i've worked in and around them for 4 years on and off. The royalty is a nice fist-to-the-elbow up your profits ass, 10-13% right off the top with monthly inspections where, if you fail, they up it another 1-2 percent.

Lazy, that's interesting, maybe they have different corporate polices over in bloody england?


Also, corporate has pretty tight control over everything you do, but like any big corporation, i'm sure if you behave with them for awhile you can get away with things that normally you couldn't.

Okay, nice thing about this concept is you have free reign to offer any incentive you want. I wouldn't suggest email or zip submits, because the payout is too low to offer anything meaningful.

Lets try to focus on offers of 12-20 bucks where we know we can turn 100%ish profit after expenses.

The LP isn't even an issue, your prospects, theoretically, will be sitting right in front of you filling the form out. It would be wise to inform any company you find a good offer with that eventhough they'll be coming from the same ip, they are legitimate leads.

We're stuck on tanning incentive, which isn't bad, but people won't flock to it.

Couple good things the guy I saw marketing the cc offers had going.

1. Brand recognition - Everybody and their mother knows subway. He was allowed to use the logo in his flyers he passed out to the kids that said "come to subway to find out how to get a free 6-in sub" That played a huge part in it, and i'm sure helped it get viral pretty quickly. Plus, shit, everyone needs to eat, lol.

2. Specific agreement between the company he worked for and cc companies (BofA, citi, Capital One) to advertise offline for leads.

3. Specific agreement between the company he worked for and the cc companies to COVER THE COST of the incentive, meaning the 5-6 bucks was not out of his pocket. Fuckers.

3. It was before a recession, so the application requirements were very lax, didn't even need to get approved.

So, issues I can see so far. Your AMs will not give you credit for your commisions if you violate your terms by advertising offline when they said you can't.

I recommend finding an offer thats incentivizable and can be advertised offline, then running a small trial period (30 days) with your own capital covering the cost of the incentive, lets say up to 100 leads just to see if it works. At least thats how I envisioned it when the idea first came to me. lets keep juggling this, could be a cool case study.
 
Re:Off-Line Affiliate Marketing for CC's - Kind of...

I'm aware of what affiliate marketing is, it's just I don't know how I should break into it. Right now I'm developing scripts and selling them on or creating sites and sticking adsense on and earning, I can code pretty well so I'd be fine with that aspect of it, but where do I start? What do I do to get off the mark?
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1. Where are all the CC offers? CJ is the only place I was really able to find any with a recognizable name.
(Performics according to their search has none which I find hard to believe but who knows.)

Check LinkShare
 
Check out ncsreporting.com and commissionsoup.com. They have lots of credit card offers and have an easy approval.

I tried this for payday loans and it did ok. I bought a domain and forwarded/masked it to the affiliate link for the cash advance loan offer. I left my cards every where advertising local payday loans and ended up with approx 8 converts per week (easy $160 week). The only reason I quit, is that the offer was removed from CJ.

Good Luck
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So on campus someone hands me a tiny free domino pizza coupon.... all it says is free dominos medium pizza from 3-8pm carry out only April 18th LAST DAY Must bring student ID. I figure they want you to fill out a survey or something so I went at 4pm since it was close to campus.

So I go there and turns out you sign up for a Citibank mTV credit card, and you have to have a student ID. They have to scan the student ID. I bet that is how citi bank confirms they are good leads.

So the trick here is they didn't put anything on the little coupon saying anything about a credit card offer or anything, just FREE PIZZA. I was surprised, all the people I saw that came didn't ask questions and signed up for the credit card anyway and handed over their IDs to be scanned.

They had 4 computers of people constantly signing up for the credit cards.

Pizza places are not busy during the day........ so these guys strike a deal with dominos and probably get half price pizzas...
 
^ Cha ching, exact same setup where I was at, cept it was Subway. 4 comps with scanners for ids and everything. They had to streamline the process otherwise they got bottlenecked. Must be a nice problem to have, lol.
 
the other day to a Bacardi sponsored even in Miami, guys paid by Bacardi were giving out $20 cash to fill-out a survey. People were fighting to fill those surveys :)
 
Lets try to focus on offers of 12-20 bucks where we know we can turn 100%ish profit after expenses.

The LP isn't even an issue, your prospects, theoretically, will be sitting right in front of you filling the form out. It would be wise to inform any company you find a good offer with that eventhough they'll be coming from the same ip, they are legitimate leads.

We're stuck on tanning incentive, which isn't bad, but people won't flock to it.
Well I'm stuck on the tanning because it a tanning salon and thats what he has to give a way. ;)
Like I said, they only cost him $0.30 to provide but he sells them for $7.00 so yes, it wouldn't make sense to do an offer that paid less than $7.00. 12-20 is where I'm looking to be.

I suppose he could offer lotions or belly button rings or something but then the profit margin goes way down. It's a tanning salon, people go there for one thing, so what incentives he can offer are pretty limited. And we're really only looking to capitalize on the foot traffic he already has. If it brings in some new customers thats cool too.

He does have a lot of male customers too though. So... If he could get one of those cute teenage girls that goes in there to push an offer for him, He could probably sell them the fucking Brooklyn Bridge. :D

I'm aware of what affiliate marketing is, it's just I don't know how I should break into it. Right now I'm developing scripts and selling them on or creating sites and sticking adsense on and earning, I can code pretty well so I'd be fine with that aspect of it, but where do I start? What do I do to get off the mark?
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I think you're in the wrong thread. First try the link in your sig, it supposedly is, "The best source for affiliate marketing information".

So on campus someone hands me a tiny free domino pizza coupon....
That's kind of what I'm thinking. Since by law (here's the tanning again) He can only people one session per 24 hr period. he can hand them a coupon on their way out, then they can go home and fill out the offer and bring in a auth code or something for their freebie the next day or what ever.

So all sorts of ideas, what are you thinking about doing.
Nothing yet, still working out ideas and looking into offers.
If it were my business I'd jump right in and try something and if I crash and burn, so be it. But it's not. I don't want to talk him into doing this just to have it go up in flames. I wanna make sure if we do it, it works, or a least doesn't completely backfire.

Great info so far though, go a lot of new things to think about and look into. :)
 
I'm curious what are the profit margins like for a tanning salon? was thinking about one here locally.
 
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