Need A Tiny Bit Of Mentoring

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Hello WickedFire guys and gals,

I've been lurking for quite some time here posting occasionally when a post interested me but finally I manage dot find some free time and managed to get the "working" mindset.

I read a lot at WickedFire and the amount of information present here is simply breathtaking. I implemented a little here and there and quite a few turned out to be utter disasters.

I obviously don't expect someone to guide me step by step but I'd be extremely grateful if someone could just guide me towards the general direction and if possible help me with one of their innovations or methods.

I'm sorry if this sort of request isn't allowed here, in that case, please close this thread moderators.
 


No one is going to walk you through here. Most of the people here who have become even remotely successful, have done so through learning on their own, and trial and error. It is expected of every new member here at WickedFire to put their best efforts into this business before crying wolf.

I realize that you've done a few things and they haven't worked. That's all the more reason to try even more things. Someone here often quotes Thomas Edison and his 1000 failures before finally succeeding with the light bulb. He didn't necessarily perceive these failed attempts as failures. Instead he saw it as and said that he'd found 1000 ways not to create a light bulb. With every failed attempt (if you're truly putting in your best effort), just realize that its one way that you personally won't be making money online.

I know one thing that truly gets people to work is desperation. Some of us have nothing to be desperate about. What I do, at times, is create my own desperation, if you understand what I mean. I'll create simulations of desperation in my mind and use it to motivate myself. For instance, I'll act as if I have kids to provide for that will not survive if I don't get my ass to work. In reality, I don't actually have kids, but that mindset of a worker in desperation helps me to get myself into a working frame of mind.

I believe that people appreciate things, especially in this field, that they learn on their own more than the things that they are taught. It's a psychological sense of repeating discovery. You'd be more likely to lose interest, down the road, in something that you were taught as opposed to something that you got through on your own. You will make money if you do something, it isn't rocket science.

As BigWill stated, try thinking. Use your mind to get past the seemingly difficult things. Take it one step at a time, and you'll be fine.
 
I know one thing that truly gets people to work is desperation. Some of us have nothing to be desperate about. What I do, at times, is create my own desperation, if you understand what I mean. I'll create simulations of desperation in my mind and use it to motivate myself. For instance, I'll act as if I have kids to provide for that will not survive if I don't get my ass to work. In reality, I don't actually have kids, but that mindset of a worker in desperation helps me to get myself into a working frame of mind.

If you need more motivation you can support my kids. I'm kinda tired of them. I'd like them more if you were paying for them that's for sure.
 
Sticky, in order to survive in AM you gotta be able to think creatively, but remember its also not a solo sport when you're starting out.

Get up off ur ass and sign up for a couple networks, Copeac, Neverblue, Cpaempire, and start talking to your affiliate managers. Browse through offers and see which ones interest you the most, then think of who they apply to. Your affiliate managers will help you out alot in the beginning.

Most important part though is you gotta commit to some small goals, and sit down and work on those goals UNTIL THEY ARE DONE. Its easy to get distracted in the beginning. Oh, and setting a budget aside will help alot too, if you're even half serious about trying to make ph4t lewt online. Hope that helped
 
If you explain what you did & how it failed, others will be able to gauge the level of effort you put in, and someone may become much more inclined to help you.

I read a lot at WickedFire and the amount of information present here is simply breathtaking. I implemented a little here and there and quite a few turned out to be utter disasters.
 
Thanks for the suggestions everyone and the not-so appreciable criticism "shithappens"

As I said, I'm not someone just looking for someone to hold my hand and walk me through the dos and donts. I'm past that stage. I've signed up with Never Blue Ads, rocket Profit and I'm going to sign up with Azoogle.

I tried zip and e-mail submits using a default landing page distributed by Geoff of Cant Get Rich and ended up losing around $150 due to the traffic not converting.
 
I recently started too, and it's not as easy as it seems. At first, it's going to be way harder than a 9 to 5, and take just as much time if not more.

From my limited exp, here are some tips I'd give:
Expect to lose a lot of money.

Expect your first 10 tries to be loses and your next few probably won't break even either.

Don't whine, don't complain. Nobody (unless they're lucky) profits right away. I spent $50 and made $8 my 3rd-4th try. Just getting those two leads fueled me with a shitload of motivation.

Don't waste time just pondering whether you should do this offer or that, or use this network or that. Flip a coin or do both in alphabetical order. The enthusiasm will die if you don't use it up asap.
 
WF is full of tough love... but I agree with most of them. Too many people want free mentors, handouts, advice... someone can write up an amazing post that a thousand people will read but only a few will implement. There are tons of good threads here; read them. Try sorting the threads by rank to read the top-ranked ones first. That should help you out some. And for everything else you don't know, do your research and test test test.
 
Think a campaign out start to finish. then try it. If it fails, figure out what you did wrong and try again. Its all trial and error and if you cant figure out what you are doing wrong (by thinking it out) you arent going to make it.
 
Sign up for a Google AdWords ac and use the Traffic Estimator to gauge what areas are worth targetting online. PPC and volume data will give you an idea of where to focus your energy.
 
WickedFire: The Bar Bathroom Wall of The Internet.

Call 1-800-KidsCollege-Fund (My desperation)

And I have plenty of campaigns that don't work. It's the few that do that pay the bills. If you can't lower your bids to make your campaign work, try something else.

I guess almost any sort of campaign can work with enough effort, but it might be a better use of your energy to look for something else to push.

This is the hardest thing about trying to help other people. They just don't get how much we have to fail before we get to payday.

Those guys just don't know how to fail quickly!
 
Ok im going to skip all the BS from all the other gurus here and give out my example. Here goes nothing:

Get those fucking free coupons to yahoo, msn and google. You can get plenty of them to yahoo. Now you have a free fucking trial to try any offer you think is good. Search google and wickedfire for howto do tracking, landingpages, split testing and that little info on what you should try. Ask your am "what is doing good", at neverblue they will say "look at the green bar". Look at it and fiqure out a way to fit in to that already maxed out green bar. Or do the opposite. Simple huh.

To be honest i was lucky enough to have few members here to hold my hand every step through it, since i was a pussy and was too affraid to do anything on my own. Now im a grown up kid and can join the other wankers and say "youre a loser, go get a 9-5 job, MANE!".

Thanks
 
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what do you need?

It would help if you would specifically say what kind of help you need in what area?
 
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