Mortgage Lead Offers

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I'm starting to generate a fair amount of U.S. mortgage leads on a daily basis and I'm interested in setting up my own mortgage offer (instead of sending my conversions to LendingTree).

Does anyone know where companies like LendingTree are selling their leads? Are they dealing with large banks? Are they dealing with small brokers?

Any advice helps.

Thanks
 


What is your traffic source? Organic/paid?

Not sure about the US but I work for a company that sells leads to the banks, and getting the banks to actually buy the leads is a barrier to entry in this business. I'd look into selling the leads to local agents or just use an affiliate program (LendingTree).

You might need a custom distribution solution for distributing the leads if you chose to handle them yourself.

Unless you do volume, I suggest you just use LendingTree. My company does mostly credit card leads, and we pass the mortgage leads to a competitor because they have the connection with the banks.
 
I have been in the mortgage lead space for over 10 years and have my own offer if you are interested. Higher payouts than Lending Tree and less scrubbing. PM me if you want more details.
 
I'm starting to generate a fair amount of U.S. mortgage leads on a daily basis and I'm interested in setting up my own mortgage offer (instead of sending my conversions to LendingTree).

Does anyone know where companies like LendingTree are selling their leads? Are they dealing with large banks? Are they dealing with small brokers?

Any advice helps.

Thanks

What do you consider a "fair amount"? What is your traffic source?

I may be able to help. Shoot me a PM when you have 50 posts.
 
Basically you need a back fill buyer first. Then you need to hire a sales team to sell direct to brokers. Most of the back fill aggregators don't buy at premium prices which make it more difficult for you to be competitive. So you sell where you don't have coverage to the backfill buyers. Then make premiums where you do have direct buyers.

I'd suggest getting a lead routing platform like CAKE or something similar.

You need lead QA people to spot check the quality based on the source.

Also if your quality isn't that great you need other strong sources to blend you leads with. Dealing with direct buyers it's a constant hustle. They're going to always say leads are bad and want to return them. You need to fight and negate for every lead or they'll eat you alive.

Another thing if your quality is very good you maybe being blended with bad quality leads as well. And the offer owner maybe paying you out more then they're actually get paid on the leads. But they're blending you in on lower quality stuff to make their margins and still come above the acceptable loan closure rate.

This is the basics. If you want more help hit me up on Skype: smaxoro
 
I have been in the mortgage lead space for over 10 years and have my own offer if you are interested. Higher payouts than Lending Tree and less scrubbing. PM me if you want more details.

I'm interested. We run a lot of mortgage. Lending Tree pays the most in the business from what I know. They have the most direct buyers and highest quality leads so the buyers pay them the most.

Now their conversion rate is not usually as good as other deals as other deals optimize better often time. But they leap frog back and forth.

So if you mean your EPC is better I could believe that. But I doubt your payouts are stronger then Lending Tree.

Please let us know what your payout, filters and if SSN is required.

If it looks good I"ll PM you.
 
Yes you are correct smaxor. I meant higher EPC's. Currently we are paying $25 per lead on ALL credit that is over 100k loan amounts and 90% LTV's. Paying on all the poor and fair credit leads tend to give publishers a higher EPC. If you are interested PM me and we can discuss further.
 
I'm interested. We run a lot of mortgage. Lending Tree pays the most in the business from what I know. They have the most direct buyers and highest quality leads so the buyers pay them the most.

Now their conversion rate is not usually as good as other deals as other deals optimize better often time. But they leap frog back and forth.

So if you mean your EPC is better I could believe that. But I doubt your payouts are stronger then Lending Tree.

Please let us know what your payout, filters and if SSN is required.

If it looks good I"ll PM you.

Fantastic two posts on this old man! ;)

Yikes, is LT requiring SSN's on forms again?! Refis are going to get red hot real soon, it's got me thinking about jumping back in for round two!
 
T3 is doing mortgage now... although I havent used them. So, I can't speak to their quality.
 
I'm starting to generate a fair amount of U.S. mortgage leads on a daily basis and I'm interested in setting up my own mortgage offer (instead of sending my conversions to LendingTree).

Does anyone know where companies like LendingTree are selling their leads? Are they dealing with large banks? Are they dealing with small brokers?

Any advice helps.

Thanks

The secret sauce to getting around the barrier to entry issue that most will face is just sheer volume of availability. While it's fantastic if the quality is of a high caliber (aka exclusive!), the reality of the way things really work tend to prove otherwise.

You should do some recon on what mortgage brokers think about LT and other lead selling sources these days. Their opinions should be taken into serious account and if you're going to go the direct route and sell to them, make sure you play that "We're unique and we stand out because..." game to match their needs.

Dealing with corporate entities and banks when coming from nowhere is pretty challenging. Most do not give a fuck about logic or profit potential. They rely mostly on old school forms of doing business, like building long term relationships that are proven and safe before jumping into bed with the leadgen stuffs. But, maybe smaller regional banks aren't as stuffy as the big boys? So you won't really know until you try.

I do think the best spot to be is the one I was in myself from 2003-2006'ish... And that's the lowly affiliate/publisher. Even though the profit potential is lower than say going direct to the big boys, it's also the quickest and simplest but many times the lower risk option. After you establish a sweet rapport with one of the agencies/corps then by all means, ramp shit up and get serious. But only commit to it if you plan on being all in and seriously focused, otherwise, play it safe and fast and just stick to being the aff/pub. You don't want those kinds of big boy headaches.
 
The secret sauce to getting around the barrier to entry issue that most will face is just sheer volume of availability. While it's fantastic if the quality is of a high caliber (aka exclusive!), the reality of the way things really work tend to prove otherwise.

You should do some recon on what mortgage brokers think about LT and other lead selling sources these days. Their opinions should be taken into serious account and if you're going to go the direct route and sell to them, make sure you play that "We're unique and we stand out because..." game to match their needs.

Dealing with corporate entities and banks when coming from nowhere is pretty challenging. Most do not give a fuck about logic or profit potential. They rely mostly on old school forms of doing business, like building long term relationships that are proven and safe before jumping into bed with the leadgen stuffs. But, maybe smaller regional banks aren't as stuffy as the big boys? So you won't really know until you try.

I do think the best spot to be is the one I was in myself from 2003-2006'ish... And that's the lowly affiliate/publisher. Even though the profit potential is lower than say going direct to the big boys, it's also the quickest and simplest but many times the lower risk option. After you establish a sweet rapport with one of the agencies/corps then by all means, ramp shit up and get serious. But only commit to it if you plan on being all in and seriously focused, otherwise, play it safe and fast and just stick to being the aff/pub. You don't want those kinds of big boy headaches.


That's why I sell all my traffic to Bankrate and just call it a day...
 
I'm starting to generate a fair amount of U.S. mortgage leads on a daily basis and I'm interested in setting up my own mortgage offer (instead of sending my conversions to LendingTree).

Does anyone know where companies like LendingTree are selling their leads? Are they dealing with large banks? Are they dealing with small brokers?

Any advice helps.

Thanks

This Leads are of which state? Can you drop me your contact number or Email ID.