Miley Cyrus + Salvia = LOL




He's right, it was propaganda produced in the 70s and 80s. I'm on my iPad, so I'm not going to post sources, but I would almost guarantee wikipedia talks about it and has multiple sources listed. LSD is completely out of your system within 48 hours.

edit: The original story evolved from something to do with a spinal tap... can't remember the exact story.
 
I've never personally tried salvia but I know people who have, and ya apparently it hits you instantly, and sometimes you just can't stop laughing. Last weekend some people apparently tried it but I was to drunk and high to notice so I didn't see if salvia really fucks you up that bad. But other people said that they were messed.
 
This is so bs. I bet it wasn't salvia. Her PR people already knew she got busted might as well say it's salvia. LOL. The next Paris / Lindsey!
 
It should be you quoting a source to prove it is right, not others having to quote a source that disproves it. And yes, it is a myth.
i wasn't debating, i don't know if it is or not. I was curious and wanted to find out. Hence why I asked for a source.

So far after googling it I'm finding mixed results. Some saying Yes it does some saying no it doesn't, and yes I'm being a responsible researcher and weeding out the propaganda papers and biased reports as much as possible. I'm yet to find anything that I would consider a truly reliable source.

I appreciate you hooking me up with some info and not to knock the effort but this report is laughable. It looked legit at first but after reading the whole thing I can't possibly take it seriously. All the studies it quotes are from the early 60's and 70's back when scientists thought lsd was a positive mind enhancing drug with possible military advantages. It downplays the effects of LSD waaay too much to a level thats unbelievable to anyone whos even tried it. The drug didn't even reach the market until the mid 40's and had no mass appeal until late 50's early 60's. They didn't even realize it would have an adverse effect on pregnancies back then. And the latest source quote i can find in there is '83. Nothing remotely recent.

some lol moments involving the dates of the studies quoted
In Science 30 April 1972, Volume 172 Number 3982 p. 431-440 there was an article by Norman I. Dishotsky, William D. Loughman, Robert E. Mogar and Wendell R. Lipscomb titled "LSD and Genetic Damage - Is LSD chromosome damaging, carcinogenic, mutagenic, or teratogenic?". They reviewed 68 studies and case reports published 1967-1972, .... does not cause detectable genetic damage, and is not a teratogen or carcinogen in man."
Well, there's the study by Sidney Cohen which was cited here recently, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 130, 1960. The following is from Jay Stevens' Storming Heaven: "Cohen surveyed a sample of five thousand individuals who had taken LSD twenty-five thousand times. He found and average of 1.8 psychotic episodes per thousand ingestions, 1.2 attempted suicides, and 0.4 completed suicides. 'Considering the enormous scope of the psychic responses it induces,' he concluded, 'LSD is an astonishingly safe drug.'
I'm not so sure this would apply to modern lsd
Actually, I think the fact that PharmChem analyzed something on the order of 2,000 LSD samples between 1972 and 1979 and never found one with strychnine in it ... however, at least under .05%. More a little later.
As it stands now I'm still on the fence.
 
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that makes me wonder. Now that I think about it the only people I know that salvia actually worked on were people who do a lot of acid and shrooms. And I did all my experimenting with salvia well before i ever tried acid or shrooms and I tried it many times with all different potencies. Maybe thats the trick. It pulls chemicals out of your spinal cord or some shit so if you've done a lot of hallucinogens it works better. idk.

Cumon... You are spiderman.. you don't even bleed.. or hurt? :)
 
She over acts on everything. One hit and a couple seconds later she is tripping out, nothing is that fast. It's like the people who think they are drinking alcohol acting like they are drunk.

Clearly those in the video are only putting up with her because she is a celebrity, which is obvious by how the girl holding the camera comments.

no, 10x-20x saliva hits you as soon as you exhale it.

only lasts about 5 minutes tho.
 
LSD is not a fat soluble ergoline. It's half life is something like 6 hours IIRC.

Psilocybin is slightly fat soluble, but nothing I've seen shows it an anything like THC. THC is much more fat soluble - piss testing for weeks later. There is no urban legend about getting high weeks later from cracking your back, etc.

In any case, spinal fluid is replenished frequently and daily, so even if non-dissolved LSD molecule crossed the csf/blood barrier it wouldn't hang out for long. No tryptamine or phenethylamine that I know of sticks around in a human body for decades or has oxidative properties strong enough to cause chromosome damage.

LSD got the bad rap for being stuck in your spinal cord, causing genetic damage, etc since it was the most widely popularized psychedelic. They needed a demon and it fit.

As for the lack of recent, rigorous studies - you will not find more than a handful. The government says drugs in that schedule are bad, have no medical use, etc so they cannot be studied (basically).

MAPS does some research with lsd/psilocybin but it is very slow going. MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies You could check their site for more information.
 
Couple of years back I was hitting salvia hard and it never did shit to me. I tried leafs, 5x 20x everything the store had. Didn't do shit.

BUT a friend of mine took one hit and was gone for like 20mins. Crazy fucking gone. He was speaking math, and fighting dragons, and was eaten by a clam. All kinds of crazy shit.
 
LSD is not a fat soluble ergoline. It's half life is something like 6 hours IIRC.

Psilocybin is slightly fat soluble, but nothing I've seen shows it an anything like THC. THC is much more fat soluble - piss testing for weeks later. There is no urban legend about getting high weeks later from cracking your back, etc.

In any case, spinal fluid is replenished frequently and daily, so even if non-dissolved LSD molecule crossed the csf/blood barrier it wouldn't hang out for long. No tryptamine or phenethylamine that I know of sticks around in a human body for decades or has oxidative properties strong enough to cause chromosome damage.

LSD got the bad rap for being stuck in your spinal cord, causing genetic damage, etc since it was the most widely popularized psychedelic. They needed a demon and it fit.

As for the lack of recent, rigorous studies - you will not find more than a handful. The government says drugs in that schedule are bad, have no medical use, etc so they cannot be studied (basically).

MAPS does some research with lsd/psilocybin but it is very slow going. MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies You could check their site for more information.

He is pretty much dead on. The half-life is actually 5.1 hours, though I've read things in the past saying it could be as high as 1-3 days. And like dantex said, it's water soluble, which means there is no way for it to stay in your system. There's a reason you can't drug test for LSD after three days of usage (see here).