Of course there's a way. In Australia you would have a very hard time obtaining one.
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Of course there's a way. In Australia you would have a very hard time obtaining one.
I'm not sure why anybody gives murdering dbags press in the first place. (rhetorical)
It's hard to argue that without any press coverage the psychos wouldn't go on a killing spree, but I don't think it's helping. I'm too lazy to research it (if that sort of research is even possible), but I feel making murderers publicly obsolete would decrease their desire to do something fantastic, and more likely to just kill themselves.
It's hard to argue that without any press coverage the psychos wouldn't go on a killing spree, but I don't think it's helping. I'm too lazy to research it (if that sort of research is even possible), but I feel making murderers publicly obsolete would decrease their desire to do something fantastic, and more likely to just kill themselves.
Although it technically is a larger news story than most stuff, I have to agree. But since most 'news' stations are 'entertainment' it's all about the ratings this stuff sells off the charts.
But Australia is a big ass island. And has there ever been 300m guns in Australia to begin with? A lot easier to control when guns are limited from the start and there are no land bridges for smuggling.
Also this:
Just saying.
1. There have only been 2 crimes committed since 1930 with legally owned fully automatic weapons. The weapon used here was not a fully automatic, so he could fire just as fast with a handgun and actually reload much faster. "Assault" does not mean "Automatic".
2. You can kill someone just as dead with any other rifle, "assault" or not.
The fact that government can have them is justification enough for why the people should be able to have them.
Bullshit. Where there's a demand, there will be a supply. If you wanted to get one in AUS, you can get one. You just would need to know the right people.
Government overthrows due to oppression in Egypt, Libya, etc have happened within the past year. I won't give up my right to own one just because we're stable right now.
Ok, so we are making it about the murderer now. Hes not worried because he dies anyway. Whether he kills 2 or 50 doesnt matter. Fuck you.
It took you the entirety of 15 words before you begin contradicting your own point. The murderer kills himself anyway. He will get the guns he seeks. In what kind of removed from reality shelter do you live that you actually believe that its kind of difficult to acquire a gun, legal or not? Most of us smoke pot, so most of us know a dealer. A dealer probably has a higher up dealer who is either part of organized crime himself or knows someone. Tell your dealer you want to acquire an assault rifle. Hell hook you up.
Is that lies for the masses or do you actually believe that? The only reason you dont see opportunities to acquire guns is because you dont want to see them. Drive down the main street of your town. Pick out the 10 most "gangsterish" looking guys you see. Half of them will find a way to sell you a weapon. Any weapon you want.
Two years ago, israel. Reason it doesnt happen more often is because MOST OF THE NEWS COVERAGE OF THE WORLD IS FROM PLACES WHERE STRICT GUN CONTROL IS IN PLACE.
The columbine kids probably didnt acquire their rifles and bombs in legal ways. Your argument just sucks overall. If good people were armed, bad people might not be any more scared to commit crime, but theyd get their brains splattered a lot faster.
Maybe the guy who happens to confront the evildoers about the shit they pull dies in the process. It would at least be heroic. I know that the hero cult doesnt appeal to democratic fags like you, but some people have a little fire left in them. You see a theater full of grown men cowardly retreating from a single one who happens to be armed and think thats how the world should work? neutered minds
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#1 it would have not made a difference had the shooter of had a ar15 or a 22lr that is legal in all countries. a packed theater will result in mass death every time.
2. Australia has had many shootings since 1996, their media has just got good at covering them up. i will post links to this fact when i get pc access.
3. there have been 5600 instances where armed americans have prevented crimes and murders because of ccw or castle doctrine. no less than 2 mass shootings have been prevented by armed citizens in the pas 6 years. most mass shootimgs in the us take place in gun,free zones.
#1 it would have not made a difference had the shooter of had a ar15 or a 22lr that is legal in all countries. a packed theater will result in mass death every time.
2. Australia has had many shootings since 1996, their media has just got good at covering them up. i will post links to this fact when i get pc access.
3. there have been 5600 instances where armed americans have prevented crimes and murders because of ccw or castle doctrine. no less than 2 mass shootings have been prevented by armed citizens in the pas 6 years. most mass shootimgs in the us take place in gun,free zones.
Agree on that 300m guns issue. The problem with logistics isn't a a problem at all, the issue here is the mentality that has been perpetuated generation after generation in the US households: it's normal and even necessary to have guns. Which in reality is crap.
By the way, Ly you have no idea how hard it is to get a gun in any European country, compared to what you described in the US, it's almost impossible for common citizens to own a firearm.
What amuses me the most is the amazing lengths you guys go to justify the ownership of guns, but hey wtf do I care, we need some kind of over population control anyway, so carry on killing each other.
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Maybe if more citizens in Europe had guns, then the United States wouldn't have had to come over to take care of Hitler for us. Stalin, Tito, Mussolini etc were all creations of strict gun control.
Care to compare how many people were killed by these men, versus how many are killed in incidents like this recent one in the theatre?
Now, that's creative. Thank God for history books and shit.
Europe has the correct policies about guns. Period.
Building on Andrew Scherer's post, I think Holmes was fortunate that Samuel Williams was not at the theater that night. Had Williams attended, Holmes might be sportin' a hole the size of a grapefruit in the back of his head.
On a side note, johnmatrix is getting a lot of coverage in this thread. It's fascinating to observe from the sidelines.
On a side note, johnmatrix is getting a lot of coverage in this thread. It's fascinating to observe from the sidelines.
For the right price. Australia's fairly similar to the UK, and at least here, the majority of common criminals can't afford guns. Even people robbing post offices etc generally use BB guns.
A personal opinion on the last sentence.
Europe has the correct policies about guns, for Europe. I support gun control in Europe, and concealed/open carry in the US, guns are too available now. Control them now, and you have a bunch of criminals with guns, and no way to defend against them.
What is there to argument about? I just can't understand how someone rational can say that owning guns is morally correct, socially acceptable, politically right and worst, advisable to protect yourselves and others (police anyone?). And like me, almost everyone in Europe thinks this way.
So you were saying Guerilla?
It is impossible for one policy to be correct for 1 billion people. Someone's values are being promoted over those of someone else.
You guys still aren't getting it. It's not to stop street thugs and such. That's an added benefit.
It is to stop government that is out of control.
As someone mentioned, you guys should realize this having lived through the last great western tyrannies. Being disarmed was a contributing factor to the holocaust.
When mass civil unrest comes to the EU, as it inevitably will, maybe some of you will develop a sense of responsibility as it relates to your person, property and family.