Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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Not a lawyer, but have been sued by a big company like FB. Also know quite a few dudes who had the same happen to them (think CL). From what I gathered, it's one thing to get a default judgement against someone for 6-7 figures, it's a whole other process actually trying to collect it. If someone has no assets, doesn't drawl a paycheck, has no money in the bank, they are judgement proof. That is until, one day they suddenly become wealthy, and they are waiting. Most states have statutes of limitations on how long someone can chase you for that debt. Most states are 7-10 years. So if he wants, he can stay under the radar until that time frame is up, and then tell them to fuck off (pretty sure they can file a motion to extend time frame, but again not a lawyer. Calling Aaron Law!!).

My guess with this case is, they don't give a shit about collecting the money. The amount will be insignificant to them. It's more about making an example out of Mrunin. I settled in my particular case, but I know dudes who let it go to judgement, and the company never pursued avenues to collect the settlement. It's all about the perception of fucking someone's day up, so others will be less likely to do the same.

Just my 2 shitty cents.

Instead of waiting 7-10 years, why not just dissolve the company and start a new one that can't be sued?
 


Instead of waiting 7-10 years, why not just dissolve the company and start a new one that can't be sued?

Cause den dey break da corporate shield, and steal your monies!

You can only hide under a corporation name so much. There are ways to get through it via the legal system.
 
Instead of waiting 7-10 years, why not just dissolve the company and start a new one that can't be sued?

Usually the plaintiff sues you as an individual as well as your corporation. It is possible to have all individuals dismissed from the lawsuit while leaving only the corporation responsible. But if you as an individual engaged in any sort of criminal and/or unlawful activity (fraud, etc) that can be proven by the plaintiff, then that is not going to work.

Limited liability does work however. When I had to deal with a spam lawsuit, I was dismissed from the lawsuit as an individual while my corporation (a separate legal person) settled. My corporation had no assets left.
 
I used to live an hour from SF, if I was really bored and nothing to do, I would have showed up for the giggles, and talked like Dave Chapelle.
 
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Looks like Martin has a lot in common with this guy: They're both bullshitters and they both love the limelight.

Every once in a while there is an article about a young, smart guy who has made it in the stock market with "skills". Just like there are some mothers who lost 20 pounds just by drinking herbal tea. It's all one big commercial, but for different demographic group.
 
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Tim Sykes some how crafted that guys story knowing it would blow up against him so he could swoop in and save the day and remind everyone that HE is really the only penny stock wiz and to buy his lil book and use his profitly site.

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Tim Sykes some how crafted that guys story knowing it would blow up against him so he could swoop in and save the day and remind everyone that HE is really the only penny stock wiz and to buy his lil book and use his profitly site.

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Looks like Judgy Alsup is giving Gruster a slight chance to avoid default if FB can't show the a Federal court has shown precedence of liability on the issues FB is suing him on. My guess is that... they have already multiple examples locked & loaded for the Alsup. To be continued...

1. Has any federal court found liability under Section 1030(a)(2), Section 20 1030(a)(4), and/or California Penal Code Section 502(c) based on the actions Mr. Grunin allegedly took as pled in the operative complaint? For example, has any service-user (not an employee or former employee) ever been found liable under these statutes (1) for accessing a website, i.e., a social media website or search engine, after his/her access was revoked, or (2) for impersonating others to obtain access to online services?

2. Has any federal court ever found liability under 4 Section 1030(a) or California Penal Code Section 502(c) based on a service-user accessing a server to obtain online services or user accounts, after his/her accounts had been revoked or terminated?


REQUEST FOR BRIEFING for Facebook, Inc., v. Grunin :: Justia Dockets & Filings
 
Looks like Judgy Alsup is giving Gruster a slight chance to avoid default if FB can't show the a Federal court has shown precedence of liability on the issues FB is suing him on. My guess is that... they have already multiple examples locked & loaded for the Alsup. To be continued...

1. Has any federal court found liability under Section 1030(a)(2), Section 20 1030(a)(4), and/or California Penal Code Section 502(c) based on the actions Mr. Grunin allegedly took as pled in the operative complaint? For example, has any service-user (not an employee or former employee) ever been found liable under these statutes (1) for accessing a website, i.e., a social media website or search engine, after his/her access was revoked, or (2) for impersonating others to obtain access to online services?

2. Has any federal court ever found liability under 4 Section 1030(a) or California Penal Code Section 502(c) based on a service-user accessing a server to obtain online services or user accounts, after his/her accounts had been revoked or terminated?


REQUEST FOR BRIEFING for Facebook, Inc., v. Grunin :: Justia Dockets & Filings


The courts doesn't ask questions in which they don't already know the answers. The court is simply making the plaintiff provide precedent. The judgment is a foregone conclusion.
 
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