Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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Why in the hell would he pay the fee to PayPal? It's free to send money to friends/family as a gift, you only pay the fee when you check, "this payment is for goods/services" when you send the money. Did he want recourse in case he decided he wanted the dog?
 
Holy shit... we read about this type of defense based on the Strawman Theory in my criminal law and sociology classes.
Cliffs: "The theory holds that an individual has two personas, one of themselves as a real flesh and blood human being and the other, a separate legal personality or person (usually written in CAPITALS) who is the "strawman". The idea is that an individual’s debts, liabilities, taxes and legal responsibilities belong to the strawman rather than the physical individual themselves, conveniently allowing one to escape their debts and responsibilities."​
We read that people who get overwhelmed with the situation they're in or don't see a way out default to the Strawman Theory to try and rationalize what the fuck is going on. It never works.

Mcgrunin man... all the trolling and luls aside, unless you're thinking about getting a mistrial by throwing your attorney-in-fact under the bus and attempting to win via some huge technicality that no one but you saw coming then I would seriously lawyer the fuck up. You're still young and this is still salvageable. Shit happens but it's not the end of the world. Get your shit together and either fight this or take a deal. For either of those options you're going to need a white collar legal defense team/firm/partnership with experience in this. Not this strawman bullshit.
Yeah, that was my thought, that maybe he was trying to screw up the initial trial as much as possible to then try for a mistrial and buy time, judging by the distance between conviction and the offence, it seems like that or similar may have worked for his 'attorney in fact'.

Some more lulz on the topic of FMOTL stuff: Freeman on the land - RationalWiki
 
Why in the hell would he pay the fee to PayPal? It's free to send money to friends/family as a gift, you only pay the fee when you check, "this payment is for goods/services" when you send the money. Did he want recourse in case he decided he wanted the dog?

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Some more lulz on the topic of FMOTL stuff: Freeman on the land - RationalWiki

Nice info. A quote from the site:
No freeman arguments have ever succeeded in court;[5] some courts have even explicitly ruled that the term "freeman on the land" has no legal significance when the argument is raised.[6] Actually using the arguments gets people into worse trouble, including fines, asset seizures, contempt convictions and criminal records. However, this doesn't stop freemen from claiming that it works.
If I'm not mistaken, that's exactly what happened to this 'attorney in fact' who thought he successfully weaseled out of a speeding ticket , but ended up paying more fines, court time & a conviction (?).
 
Back in 2012, I was going through a rough time, and ignorantly bought a 5 week old 4 pound chocolate lab with Parvo form a backyard breeder. To save him I had to keep him in the hospital on IV and Plasma Injections at $500 a day, and I was dead broke at the time. In order to save him, I exhausted every resource I could, including Wickedfire.

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MGrunin was the first guy to offer to help me with my dog. Thanks to his donation, and with the help of many others, my dogs life was spared, and I have a best friend...

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Martin, if you're reading this, what you did for me will never be forgotten. I hope things work out for the best in the end. You will recover, get stronger, and be back on top in no time!


Fuck you, you dishonorable pus-bag.

First you buy an ill dog from a puppy mill (instead of adopting one), then you come here hat in hand and beg for money without offering even any work or any value in return. This was pretty low, but WF at the time was feeling nice and you got help.

Then you come back and made a thread asking for MORE money. And take a picture of your dog... with a new iphone 5 that costs almost $1k... and which of course you didn't pawn in your 'desperate attempt to save the dog'.

Now that the guy who helped you is fucked and you are doing well, you don't offer any real help. Just some kind words.

And to top it off you make a new account so that you won't be known as the fuckhead that you are.

Go eat a big fat, deformed tranny dick you shitface.

You think you fit in here. You don't. You are just the slime that benefits from hanging around people who would be ashamed to use a handle that includes the word 'lazy'... which in your case is very honest of you.

FFS man, show some dignity.

This is the second thread, in case anyone cares.

Some more gems from lazy:
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/125823-i-want-get-fired-please-help.html
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/161954-steal-high-converting-lander-guys.html
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/167205-chocolate-lab-update.html
 
Fuck you, you dishonorable pus-bag.

First you buy an ill dog from a puppy mill (instead of adopting one), then you come here hat in hand and beg for money without offering even any work or any value in return. This was pretty low, but WF at the time was feeling nice and you got help.

Then you come back and made a thread asking for MORE money. And take a picture of your dog... with a new iphone 5 that costs almost $1k... and which of course you didn't pawn in your 'desperate attempt to save the dog'.

Now that the guy who helped you is fucked and you are doing well, you don't offer any real help. Just some kind words.

And to top it off you make a new account so that you won't be known as the fuckhead that you are.

Go eat a big fat, deformed tranny dick you shitface.

You think you fit in here. You don't. You are just the slime that benefits from hanging around people who would be ashamed to use a handle that includes the word 'lazy'... which in your case is very honest of you.

FFS man, show some dignity.

This is the second thread, in case anyone cares.

Some more gems from lazy:
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/125823-i-want-get-fired-please-help.html
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/161954-steal-high-converting-lander-guys.html
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/167205-chocolate-lab-update.html

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Don't forget this gem:

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The thread that keeps on delivering

WF is like a high end whore house.

You can meet some amazingly awesome and interesting people there.

But for the most part, it is inhabited by some very unsavory beings. Still, there is plenty of lulz to be had from said characters, as long as you don't pick up and STD from one of them (like a FB acc that is going to be investigated)
 
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Back in 2012, I was silly and ignorant but I sucked every dick I could find. In fact, I'm still at it today!

MGrunin was the first guy to be my best little friend... He spun me, I spun him, it was magical.

Martin, if you're reading this, what you did to me will never be forgotten. I want you back on top in no time!

Fixed.

Now HOW MANY more times do I need to call for a BAN on this fucking seething pool of steaming, pus-laced, ass spew?
 
Back in 2012, I was going through a rough time, and ignorantly bought a 5 week old 4 pound chocolate lab with Parvo form a backyard breeder. To save him I had to keep him in the hospital on IV and Plasma Injections at $500 a day, and I was dead broke at the time. In order to save him, I exhausted every resource I could, including Wickedfire.

Martin, if you're reading this, what you did for me will never be forgotten. I hope things work out for the best in the end. You will recover, get stronger, and be back on top in no time!

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aka LazyChris
I am a product of the Y Generation. I have never mowed a lawn, never fixed a broken car, and never chipped a nail. My mom did my laundry til I was 21, my dad still fixes my car when it breaks, and I have never been in a physical fight of any kind.

Because I have had it so easy, now that it has gotten tough, it is time to escape.

made me think of this vid;
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOrT0OcHh0"]Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Three and a Half Days - YouTube[/ame]
 
How do you explain the fact that the fake ad agency domain used for the purpose of identity theft to obtain a credit line from Facebook used the same stackingjets DNS servers as your winningportfolio.com site?

That's pretty damning evidence against you bro. You can self delude yourself all you want, but we're all convinced that Facebook has you by the balls in that civil suit.

If you are lucky enough to avoid criminal charges, due to the dollar amount being pathetically small in the grand scheme of things, then I guess you can get away with it relatively unscathed as long as you don't mind filing a BK after FB either settles with you or you default on the lawsuit.

Thing is I hear the NY attorney general is planning on indicting you, so good luck bro. Just because law enforcement hasn't contacted you yet, doesn't mean they won't nail criminally in the next month or two.

Keep on deluding yourself if you want, but you aren't fooling anyone here.

I understand what you are saying, and if I gave you the actual explanation right now, none of you would believe me. I have undeniable proof that I was not responsible for it. That it was not ME. Facebook can subpoena every one of my records, and they will also come to realization that I am not responsible for it. I would love to explain all the details here but it wouldn't be wise and it would also be met with too much skepticism for now. I'll leave you guys with this, when you are a public figure in an industry, you become an easy scapegoat for those that try to set you up. Thankfully I have all the evidence I need on my side. I am not sweating bullets, I am sleeping like a baby every single night, and I'll get through this with no issues. If Facebook asks kindly enough then I can dig up the name of the person that used me as a scapegoat.

Maybe you should grow up and realize that just because you've been bragging about your financial success to a large number of strangers they don't actually owe you friendship or admiration.

This forum's been nothing more than a way for you to stroke your ego.

Bragging? I have always been a very modest and humble person on this forum. I have never put anyone down on this forum that doesn't make too much money, I have never made any comment to even indicate that I am above anyone here.

Considering how quickly this forum has turned on me, it was almost as if everyone here was waiting for the right moment to finally have some substance in hating me? I haven't scammed anyone, I haven't fucked with anyone here, but hey - Why not give me a taste of some medicine I never received?
 
Are you sure Martin didn't contact Lazy to post a positive image about this..

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Yep, you called it perfectly. I figured that the perfect way to turn this thread towards my direction is to have someone let the world know about the $300 donation I made to them two years ago. Hell, I should also contact Nick Throlson and tell him to post about the $600 donation I did towards his cancer run the other year. That should really get you guys going.

Fucking lol.
 
I really don't care one way or the other.

You never really were on my radar, to be honest. A braggy kid (modest, you are not, face it) with no sense in driving, but nothing more.

The "I challenge myself to make MONEY daytrading" thread was really lulzy, especially as you killed yourself by not following your own advice over and over again.

Didn't get why that thread turned into the vitriol it did, but eh, that is WF some times.

THIS here, though....

I'll wait and see what the court finds out.

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