Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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Rusky said:
^^^ Thumbs up.

We have a word in Russian its used allot in normal dialect "злорадство"
Its something like Evil Happiness.
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netbert said:
Sounds a bit like the German word Schadenfreude.

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Schadenfreude (German) is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others. This word is taken from German and literally means 'harm-joy.' It is the feeling of joy or pleasure when one sees another fail or suffer misfortune. It is also borrowed by some other languages.
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Sorry for linguistical off-topic.

I'd say, злорадство means pretty much the same. I'd say it's an opposite to Rejoice. Rejoice is when you are happy for someone's success or happiness, and злорадство is when you are happy for someone's failure, pain or suffering.


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Unarmed Gunman said:
No problem, smart ass. You're a smart guy and appear to know a lot about finance and investing and all that - much respect where it's due. But you're fucking wrong, so just deal with it. No law enforcement agency (yes, that includes federal) is going to wait to see if there are civil procedings before deciding whether to file criminal charges in every case. Or in most cases for that matter. If they think there is a crime they'll investigate and file charges if they have enough evidence to. Period.
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Good call, Bro.

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I think blue collar crimes vs white collar crimes are handled a little bit differently and UG's quote might make more sense in the context of blue collar crimes.

A key difference to me is that when someone is a victim to a blue collar crime, the first thing they do is call the police. However for a white collar crime often the first thing they do is sue.

For instance, I'm sure the feds were not really aware of this crime until after the lawsuit (and possibly they weren't even aware until after Alsup's office forwarded the case to them), just like how the feds are likely unaware of lots of other instances of fraud that have been committed against Facebook.
 
bluechinagroup said:
Trust me, Unarmed Gunman has no idea how the legal system in the US works. His post was a huge embarrassment. He's one of those 9/11 truthers on here.
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9/11 truther? You clearly have me mixed up with someone else.

But I will say that your mere presence in this thread is a little ironic considering your scamming ass background with MySpace, wouldn't you say? I mean, it's not for me to judge, but you were basically the McGrunin of the MySpace era, right?

poopie said:
Good call, Bro.

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Damn, you remembered a post I made 2 months ago on this...? Did you keep reading?
 
bluechinagroup said:
Trust me, Unarmed Gunman has no idea how the legal system in the US works. His post was a huge embarrassment. He's one of those 9/11 truthers on here.
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Unarmed Gunman said:
9/11 truther? You clearly have me mixed up with someone else.

But I will say that your mere presence in this thread is a little ironic considering your scamming ass background with MySpace, wouldn't you say? I mean, it's not for me to judge, but you were basically the McGrunin of the MySpace era, right?
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Unarmed Gunman said:
But I will say that your mere presence in this thread is a little ironic considering your scamming ass background with MySpace, wouldn't you say? I mean, it's not for me to judge, but you were basically the McGrunin of the MySpace era, right?
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Nothing I did on Myspace involved scamming Myspace employees or forging bank documents unlike Grunin. Also I had a highly competent legal defense rather than BRC.

Every individual involved in the Myspace lawsuit was dismissed. In other words: Nobody was ever held personally liable. Only the corporation had to settle with Myspace, and it had no assets at the time.

It's pretty much night and day. Grunin didn't use corporations. He used the sovereign individual strawman defense instead which is complete bunk. Furthermore corporations will not protect you from liability if you conduct criminal acts with them. Do you understand the difference?
 
poopie said:
Hey dipshit. That's the plaintiff's filing... not the ruling. Alsup won't rule on the amount until 2/19 or later.
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hey shithead stop back pedaling to save face. it was all about the amount Facebook would seek. nothing more.
 
bluechinagroup said:
Nothing I did on Myspace involved scamming Myspace employees or forging bank documents unlike Grunin. Also I had a highly competent legal defense rather than BRC.

Every individual involved in the Myspace lawsuit was dismissed. In other words: Nobody was ever held personally liable. Only the corporation had to settle with Myspace, and it had no assets at the time.
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Your careful wording says more than you think.

bluechinagroup said:
It's pretty much night and day. Grunin didn't use corporations. He used the sovereign individual strawman defense instead which is complete bunk. Furthermore corporations will not protect you from liability if you conduct criminal acts with them. Do you understand the difference?
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So basically you = Grunin + better lawyers. Except of course you were smart enough to scam people that didn't have deep pockets like Zuck. Got it.
 
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imago said:
hey shithead stop back pedaling to save face. it was all about the amount Facebook would seek. nothing more.
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No, cunt, it was certainly NOT about what FB would seek. Cock was wagering on whether Grunin would show. I was referring to the 1/8 hearing (quoted). Alsup could have ruled ($) at that hearing.
 
bluechinagroup said:
Nothing I did on Myspace involved scamming Myspace employees or forging bank documents unlike Grunin. Also I had a highly competent legal defense rather than BRC.

Every individual involved in the Myspace lawsuit was dismissed. In other words: Nobody was ever held personally liable. Only the corporation had to settle with Myspace, and it had no assets at the time.

It's pretty much night and day. Grunin didn't use corporations. He used the sovereign individual strawman defense instead which is complete bunk. Furthermore corporations will not protect you from liability if you conduct criminal acts with them. Do you understand the difference?
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So why did your corporation have to settle then if you did nothing wrong?
 
mk2005 said:
So why did your corporation have to settle then if you did nothing wrong?
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I don't know enough about bluechinagroup's suit to comment on his specific case, but almost all (95%+) lawsuits end in a settlement. The fact that Facebook spent $326,129.11 in legal fees just in the pre-trial stage should be reason enough for you.
 
poopie said:
No, cunt, it was certainly NOT about what FB would seek. Cock was wagering on whether Grunin would show. I was referring to the 1/8 hearing (quoted). Alsup could have ruled ($) at that hearing.
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you're talking out of your poopie mate. the discussion I saw was started by Pocketrockets, continued by Shindig and ended with you. if you want to deny that sequence of events as true, be more clear and specific with what you fucking post.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
So basically you = Grunin + better lawyers. Except of course you were smart enough to scam people that didn't have deep pockets like Zuck. Got it.
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If Myspace were able to prove that he was scamming people during the discovery process then the corporate veil would have been set aside and individuals sued would have been held personally liable. That didn't happen.

It's not like Myspace didn't have deep pockets either at the time. They were owned by Fox.

No offense man but your knowledge about the legal system seems to be derived from watching Law & Order. I do have a suggestion on how to fix that though: you should consider studying case law with a docketfish subscription sometime that is related to our industry so that you can better understand how this stuff works. Look up some of the cases mentioned in the Grunin lawsuit for example.

Believe me, a more solid grasp of how the legal system works will be very helpful for you and your business in the future. For example you'll be able to make better educated decisions when looking to hire a lawyer since you can check out his or her past cases.
 
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