Justin "Soulless Cunt" Daves , Pathological Liar, Serial Scammer and Chicken Fucker



Phoenixz said:
im shocked at how easy some people do prepays. should have a working relationship first
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I agree, However he was very convincing. We was discussing having our own offer created. Here is the Email he sent after our very long phone call (He was also very talented at fitting in and making all the right replies).

"Email
Good afternoon,

After speaking with you on the phone, I wanted to outline the entire client process. First things first, our client coaching and setup cost is $50,000. A $25,000 initial deposit, and then $25,000 after the offer is built. Now on to the exciting part. Here is an outline of the scope of work involved in getting you live (in no particular order).



  • Offer page creation
  • CRM setup (integrating your pages to the merchant accounts)
  • Merchanting account setup (so that you can process CC orders)
  • Customer service setup and branding (so that you can process refunds and returns)
  • Product label creation (for your bottles of product)
  • Initial product order (the actual bottles of Garcinia)
  • Teaching you to be an advertiser (Spending time explaining how everything works)
  • Initial media buy setup (So that you have traffic quickly, and cheaper than having to pay affiliates)
  • Media buy coaching (So that you know how to generate your own sales in the future)
This entire process can be done pretty quickly since we already have things dialed in pretty well. On our end it shouldn't take longer than a few days to have your page created, your CRM account setup, customer service ready, and merchant accounts opened. The longest amount of time will be spent teaching you how to do everything yourself. This will be a fairly quick process, but we will also be coaching you ongoing for several months until you feel that you are completely up to speed with everything.



Hopefully this covers the basics :)


Regards!
End Email"

Now 1st we are a small network that has focussed on direct advertisers, we do not have our own offer, So I have no real clue of the total process, So the way he laid out the plan of action I was very convinced.

After that I was still very skeptical as he was even promising a nice amount of traffic to my newly created offer, He could tell I still had doubts and perfectly timed when he offered to run my current offers at 100 sales with pre-pay of 6k this way his traffic would eventually pay for the offer creation, I will admit this clown was a very good sales men, cause I was close to being sold. However the fact that he went from a 25k wire to 6k wire set off red flags and the fact his traffic would pay for it. He then made the mistake of pulling me in a group chat with about 6 or 7 other advertisers (some I recognized) and asked if he could deliver and most actually vouched for him. Well I may be guilty of going full retard a few times, I do have enough common sense to question some of them advertisers privately, Two were nice enough to steer me straight. That is when I backed out, However if it wasn't for those two being honest, I would of fell for that horse shit.

Point is I may agree one must have a working relationship first, Do not kid your sell if you don't think there is people out their that are gifted at talking people into shit.
 
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