Is Rails going to be the shit?

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Allover the web I read that Rails is hip and new and better then php and easyer to learn.

Is this just hyping or is there some truth behind it? please fill me in:cool:
 


I've tried it but its pretty difficult to set up a site. Once you have all the infrastructure planned out, its very very easy. It requires to much planning for my applications though.
 
joe said:
I've tried it but its pretty difficult to set up a site. Once you have all the infrastructure planned out, its very very easy. It requires to much planning for my applications though.
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I was also wondering, how am I going to get rails on my server, do I need to isntall it next to php or do I need seperate hosting for it
 
Rails hosting is like PHP. Your web host needs to have it.

Its (in my opinion) a next generation hyped up language. It is basically a very heavily formatted PHP. There have been a lot of PHP frameworks popping up that emulate rails.

Rails is a MVC based framework, which is what really seperates it. Once you learn it, it takes a lot of the repetative coding out of an application so you can rapidly develop new sites. But then, any framework you learn will let you do that.

Its just another framework/language. Some people think its the greatest thing since canned beer, others could take it or leave it (myself included). Not due to any disadvantages in using it, but I just don't feel like taking the time to learn it.
 
If u know how to work with php there is no need to work with rails ntodas. It's not better then php imo, just different.
 
Well, it implements things faster (like tying in with your database - hook it up, and it automatically creates your forms, listing pages, etc).

If you want to see something cool, look at the auto admin interface you get with projects made with Django
 
I doubt it. Seems like a fad to me. If it does somehow get popular, it's going to take years.
 
Max said:
I doubt it. Seems like a fad to me. If it does somehow get popular, it's going to take years.
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I believe the main thing that makes it hard to compete with php is that A LOT of hosting providers just give you php
 
It's definitely no fad, but it is something that has a learning curve, and that curve is dependant on your skill level or area of focus (css designer vs. backend programming etc.). I have a guru programming friend who is getting a handle on it and says it is definitely "the shit" when you finally get your head around it.
 
It did make a bang in the developers community...It will probably lose some of the hype, but should be a good choice for many a site to come, seeing how 37 signals, 43 things and many others used it to get great results.

If you like your php and want to stay faithful to it, here's a php framework that should be a good alternative: http://www.symfony-project.com
 
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I'll just stick with PHP. I don't need to worry about support of it when I change hosts or start up new sites, and if it's too tough for someone then they're going about learning it wrongly. Even if your code is horrible, you can still churn out a working product.
 
J-Tag said:
I'll just stick with PHP. I don't need to worry about support of it when I change hosts or start up new sites, and if it's too tough for someone then they're going about learning it wrongly. Even if your code is horrible, you can still churn out a working product.
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What he said.
 
Plus quite a few php frameworks are popping up that are trying to emulate ruby, so you can get a lot of the same functionality. No one visiting your site is gonna care if its done in php or ruby
 
There isn't a whole lot that PHP can't do with where the web is at right now. I think as online applications begin to get more popular, you'll see languages like rails gain popularity. Or PHP will just inherit it's functions.
 
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