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emp - what logic do you use to come by that number? why 3 months?
As for comparison to chicken eggs, don't see how that applies. We as humans eat animals just as there are some animals that would eat us. Nature. The lump of cells as you call it is living and developing into an animal that has the ability to reason. (thus making it 1 billion times more valuable than a chicken witch was conceived for us to eat) How do I know it is living? because if it did not have its mother it would die, from conception, not at 3 months.
What does my age have to do with anything?
As for comparison to chicken eggs, don't see how that applies. We as humans eat animals just as there are some animals that would eat us. Nature. The lump of cells as you call it is living and developing into an animal that has the ability to reason. (thus making it 1 billion times more valuable than a chicken witch was conceived for us to eat) How do I know it is living? because if it did not have its mother it would die, from conception, not at 3 months.
What does my age have to do with anything?
One thing I can say with conviction:
No man has ever had an abortion. (and I'm no doctor so don't even go there)
No man has ever had an abortion. (and I'm no doctor so don't even go there)
That is a solid argument. You made the choice by being a hoe ... plain and simple. Now you would consider murdering your own child because it's convenient.
All of my life I've been outwardly pro-choice, but the truth is I'm really pro-life with me and mine (republican style responsibility!!!). Keeping my (and my friends) family alive is a top priority. Everyone else should have the option of aborting.
I could give 2 shits less what the general public does and I really look at it as population control. I really don't think everyone is a good fit for breeding ... these are the people who I think abortion clinics should remain open for. I feel bad for the unborn kid and all but his chance of life was shit, and I'd have to pay for it through welfare.
Sorry losser but the majority of people that should won't choose adoption because they are afraid of what their families will think. So the options really are A: abort or B: raise the baby the best they can.
A real answer would be putting an IQ minimum on being a parent, not testing your credit score.
I said that so I can blame the women for making decisions with their bodies. They keep the men's decision out of consideration so we are not guilty. It's just easier that way.
lotsofzeros - ah, that makes perfect sense to me!
e - hell no I am not writing your name! you are right that a lot of people will not do the right thing but using that as an excuse does not cut it. We should expect the best out of each other. We should not let society be run like our schools were we teach to the dumbest.
e - hell no I am not writing your name! you are right that a lot of people will not do the right thing but using that as an excuse does not cut it. We should expect the best out of each other. We should not let society be run like our schools were we teach to the dumbest.
It's nice you have opinions. But you can substitute opinions for want. (see my sig)
It's still my body...so my choice. Ha. The day you start letting the government make decisions for our own bodies is a mistake.
The government might well decide you're too stupid to breed and cut of your testicles... (If you think I'm being dramatic just look at what happened to the Native Americans)
It's still my body...so my choice. Ha. The day you start letting the government make decisions for our own bodies is a mistake.
The government might well decide you're too stupid to breed and cut of your testicles... (If you think I'm being dramatic just look at what happened to the Native Americans)
What terrorists? Seriously.. you believe that shit? Oh gawd, no way! THE WAR ON TERROR!
The war on terror is fraud. Almost everything that was supposed to have been executed by 'terrorists' was an inside job and done by your very own government.
By doing so, they make you feel insecure, then they launch these wars against them for money and slowly implement martial law. You give up rights one by one slowly because you think you'll become safer and you'll stop those terrorists! Like now, in America your fourth amendment is no more. How does that make you feel? Your loosing the base of what your great country was built upon.
It's not the 'terrorists' that are taking your rights, it's your own government doing it under your nose and your too ignorant to realise!
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. IQ distribution gravitates towards the mean. So two 130 IQ people can have a child and still have a retard.
Actually, decades of Psychological research (the amount of effort that went into this question is unbelievable) show that intelligence is determined 50/50 between nature (genes) and nurture (how a kid is raised, environment, etc).
So yes, a high IQ couple can have a stupid kid, but genes less likely to affect it too much, because high IQ couples tend to have the means (money, job, social network) to provide a very good environment for the kid.
Stupid parents (to use the layman's term) might give birth to a genetically towards high IQ predisposed kid, but often lack the means to educate it.
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So yes, a high IQ couple can have a stupid kid, but genes less likely to affect it too much, because high IQ couples tend to have the means (money, job, social network) to provide a very good environment for the kid.
Stupid parents (to use the layman's term) might give birth to a genetically towards high IQ predisposed kid, but often lack the means to educate it.
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Congratulations! You have now just become the stupidest WF member to ever dodge the banhammer after an utterly idiotic statement.
That would limit the amount of cigarettes and scratch tickets you could buy.
Fucking pisses me off to no end. My tax dollars supporting this shit - I see it all the time. Pull into a convenience store get in line behind some welfare bitch who's cashing in scratch tickets and then proceeds to buy a few dozen more and a couple of cartons of generic smokes on top. $80 in one pop. Meanwhile her kids are in tow and in desperate need of new shoes and a coat.
That's another thing. Let's say you're the sterotypical conservative anti-choice/abortion. You also tend to be against welfare. So basically you are encouraging kids having kids (under educated at that), low income, higher at-risk behaviours, tending towards abusive ubringing and put the cherry on the cake now, no government assitance.
Yep. These are the type of children I want in my future: poor, dumb and PISSED.
Btw did anyone ever read Levitt's (same guy that wrote Freakonomics) theory that the rise of abortion in the late seventies and early 80's correlated with the reduction in the violent crime rate in the 90's? http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf
Yep. These are the type of children I want in my future: poor, dumb and PISSED.
Btw did anyone ever read Levitt's (same guy that wrote Freakonomics) theory that the rise of abortion in the late seventies and early 80's correlated with the reduction in the violent crime rate in the 90's? http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf
I realize you are trying to prove a point but it's really sad your line of thought excludes the dad from the decision about his kid. Fucking feminazis.
That said, the gov't is not mom or dad and should not be involved in the decision, leave the clinics open!!!
Sure it does but there are always exceptions to the rule. You are infinitely less likely to have 2 x 130 IQ = retarded than 2 x 65 IQ = retarded ... but I'm not arguing to much on that as this is kind of a no-brainer ... unless your IQ is close to room temperature then your arguement might sound logical.
^^ A scientific way of saying give your kids a happy childhood because that's reallly all you can control. I'm more of a nurture person but cannot discount hereditary tendencies. I'd say it's 70/30 but am no scientist.
Better idea ... How about we do away with welfare and make people pay for each child. something like this would work
0 kids = $3,000 annual refund
1 kid = $0 refund
2 kids = you pay $3,000 annually
3 kids = you pay $10,000 annually
This accomplishes 3 things. 1: welfare is done (good riddance) 2: we've now encouraged the smart people to breed at a faster rate. Being a baby's momma is not a job anymore, it's an expense. 3: population control!!!
... ooh yea, and we've magically balanced the out of control US budget
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