Is it true there is a plan to build a mosque complex next to ground zero?

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I came across an article in a British newspaper that says: "An ambitious plan to build a mosque next to New York's Ground Zero has angered residents of the city."

That's insane!! I am all for live and let live when it comes to religions, if it involves consenting adults, but for the muslims to do this is a really stupid move. There is a blog here.

Nuts if true.
 


I don't agree with it either... That's like opening up a McDonald's next to Hiroshima's ground zero.

They should flank the mosque with a strip club and Nathan's Famous Hotdogs.
 
Not sure if this is true and I haven't verified the info but I thought I heard last week they were even planning on opening the mosque up on Sept 11th which is why so many are outraged.

Like a slap in the face.
 
Anyone who finds this plan to build a mosque an insult to those who lost their lives needs to understand that a mosque doesn't have any connection with what happened there.

Let's put it this way. If ground zero had been the biggest hotspot for rapes and murders by black men, would anyone here object if an 'african american cultural community center' was to be built there?
 
Reading the comments on the CNN page is just typical. As expected, people use words like 'they', 'those' and 'the muslims', lumping everyone into one big group and accusing them as such. It's just ridiculous. Imagine if we were to replace 'muslims' in this context with any other group of people. 'the christians', 'the jews', 'the gays', 'the blacks', any other word would just sound downright discriminatory, but no, using 'muslims' seems to be justified. And to think people have reached this point from just one attack by a group of people who are actually outsiders within their own religion.
 
Demon said:
And to think people have reached this point from just one attack by a group of people who are actually outsiders within their own religion.
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I have yet to hear just one of 'them' ever renounce or speak out against terrorism. Not one.

I'm not going to start another religious debate but they all appear to support murdering 'infidels' or they wouldn't be so quiet about it when it happens.

I honestly can't blame anyone for lumping all of 'them' together.
 
My thought is so what. I don't hold current day Christians responsible for the crusades. I'm not going to hold all muslims responsible for 9/11.

Regarding lotsofzeros' post, I've heard lots and lots of muslims speak out against the attack on 9/11. I guarantee a 10 second search on google or youtube would turn up enough.

There are over a billion muslims in the world, thinking they all want to fly planes into buildings and kill innocent people is pretty sillly.
 
best quotes:

"I think it's the right thing to do," said Marvin Bethea, who was a paramedic at ground zero. "I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11. It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists. As a black man, I know what it's like to be discriminated against when you haven't done anything."

Herbert Ouida, whose son was killed in the attacks, supports the project as a way to bridge cultural divide.
"I understand the anger, the bitterness and hatred, but it only generates more hatred," Ouida said. "Such a large part of the world has this faith, and to say anyone who has this faith is a terrorist, it's terrible."
 
A memorial to the guys that flew the planes into the buildings would actually be a slap in the face. This particular proposal is irrelevant.
 
LotsOfZeros said:
I have yet to hear just one of 'them' ever renounce or speak out against terrorism. Not one.

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I honestly can't blame anyone for lumping all of 'them' together.
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It's easier to just keep propagating false statements than it is to use the google I guess.

Try This:

Muslim Leaders
A Message from the Council on American-Islamic Relations
American Muslim Leaders Condemn Attacks
American Muslims Denouncing Terrorism
American Muslims and Scholars Denounce Terrorism on Anniversary of 9/11
Australian Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attack
Bin Laden Distorts Islam, Islamic Scholars Say
Bin Laden's Idea of 'Jihad' is Out of Bounds, Islamic Scholars Say
British Muslim leaders condemn terrorism
British Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks
Canadian Muslims Condemn Terorist Attacks
Islamic Statements Against Terrorism in the Wake of the September 11 Mass Murders
Islamic World Deplores U.S. Losses
Looking for Answers in Islam's Holy Book: What Islamic Scholars Have to Say
Muslim Reactions to Sept 11
Muslim Voices Against Extremism & Terrorism - Part II - Statements by Organizations
Muslim World Condemns Attacks on U.S.
Muslim rulers condemn WTC attacks
New Zealand Muslims Condemn Terrorism
Organization of the Islamic Conference Foreign Ministers Condemn International Terrorism
Quran a Book of Peace Not War, Islamic Scholars Say
Scholars of Islam Condemn Terrorism
Some American Muslims Take a Look at Their Communities' Shortcomings
U.S. Muslim Scholars Condemn Attacks
UK Muslim Leaders Condemn 'Lunatic Fringe'
When is jihad OK? Muslim Perspectives

Specific Muslim Scholars
A Common Word Between Us and You, by 130 Islamic scholars
Attacks on Civilians: Forbidden by Islam, by Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi
Ayatollah Muhammad Husain Fadlallah of Lebanon condemns Osama Bin Laden, by Ayatollah Muhammad Husain Fadlallah
Bin Laden's Violence is a Heresy Against Islam, by AbdulHakim Murad (Tim Winter)
Defending the Civilians (a fatwa against terrorism), by Shaykh Muhammad Afifi al-Akiti
Expert Says Islam Prohibits Violence Against Innocents, by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf
Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar Condemns Suicide Bombings, by Shaykh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi
High Mufti of Russian Muslims calls for Extradition of Bin Laden, by Russian Muslim leaders
Iran's Supreme Leader Condemns Attacks on U.S., by Ayatollah Ali Khamanei
Islam and the Question of Violence, by Seyyed Hossein Nasr, Iranian scholar
Jihad and the Modern World, by Dr. Sherman Jackson
Jihad: Its True Meaning and Purpose, by Muzammil H. Siddiqui
Most Prominent Sunni Muslim Scholar Condemns Killing of Civilians, by Shaykh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University
Muslim Attitudes about Violence, by Shaykh Muhammad al-Munajjid
Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism - Part I - Fatwas, by various scholars
Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism - Part IV A few Quotes, by various scholars
On the Terrorist Attacks, by Imam Zaid Shakir
Prominent Pakistani Cleric Tahir ul Qadri condemns Bin Laden, by Tahir ul Qadri
Reclaiming Islam from the Terrorists, by AbdulHakim Murad, British scholar
Reflections on the National Horror of September 11, 2001, by Muzammil H. Siddiqui
Refutation of Bin Laden's Defense of Terrorism, by Moiz Amjad, Pakistani scholar
Response to a Question about Islam and Terrorism, by Moiz Amjad, Pakistani scholar
Saudi Clerics Condemn Terrorism, by Sheikh Abderrahman al-Sudayes
Saudi Grand Mufti Condemns Terrorist Attacks in U.S., by Shaikh Abdulaziz Al-Ashaikh
Scholars' Statements Regarding The Attacks In The United States, by Shaykh Abdul-Aziz Aali-Shaykh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and President of the Committee of Senior Scholars, and Shaykh Saleh Al-Lehaydaan, Chief Justice Of The Saudi Arabian Judiciary, and Shaykh Dr. Saaleh Ibn Ghaanem As-Sadlaan, Pres. Higher Studies Dept. Al-Imaam Muhammd Ibn Saud Islamic University
Spanish Muslim Clerical authorities Issue Fatwa against Osamah Bin Laden, by Spanish Muslim leaders
Terrorism Is at Odds With Islamic Tradition, by Khaled Abou El Fadl
Terrorism: Not a doorway to heaven, by Jamil Abdul Razzak Hajoo, of Idriss Mosque, Seattle
The Myth of Islamic Terrorism Exploded, by Shaykh Abdul Azeez bin Abdullah bin Baaz and Shaykh Muhammad Bin Saalih al Uthaymeen
The worst enemies of Islam are from within, by Hamza Yusuf
Top Saudi Cleric Says Attacks on U.S. a Terrible Crime in Islam, by Shaykh Salah al-Lahidan, head of the Islamic Judiciary of Saudi Arabia
Violence Against Innocents Violates Islamic Law, by Imam Siraj Wahhaj
What is jihad? What is terrorism?, by Statement by Muslim scholars
 
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they wouldn't all fit within the forums amount of allowed space:


Individual Ordinary Muslims
Special links
A Country United- Poem by a Muslim woman about September 11
Islam Denounces Terrorism- Site of Muslim scholar Harun Yahya
Muslims Against Terrorism- An organization founded by Muslims who stand against the hijacking of Islam by extremists and terrorists
Report: Muslim Celebrities Condemn Attacks- Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens), Muhammad Ali, Hakeem Olajuwon of the Houston Rockets
Muslim charities who solicited donations to help victims in New York City:

Articles, essays, and columns
Here are some things I've written myself; some of these pages may also contain links to further condemnations of more recent events:
a step in the right direction
Al-Qaeda on defensive as bombs begin to backfire
Arab views on the Russian hostage crisis
Bali Attacks a Heinous Crime, Total Barbarism, says prominent Muslim scholar
Death and destruction in the name of Islam?
do not let hatred drive you to injustice
does the Quran really command killing unbelievers?
Even more sick
explosions in London
hell no
Hiraba versus Jihad
horror in the Caucasus
in case you hadn't noticed this story
Islamic rulings on warfare
Killing of children is an abomination, whoever does it
Muslim scholars seek to rein in 'sheikhs of death'
Muslims condemn Berg beheading
Muslims who act as if Islam had never come and its teachings had never been revealed
not silent
not silent, not even close
Oh, God. Not again.
on the bombings in Jordan
On the terrorist attack in Indonesia
Once more with feeling
Organization of the Islamic Conference: Muslims must fight extremism
Qaradawi condemns terrorism in Qatar
Qataris demonstrate against terrorism
Saudi clerics condemn terrorism in front of 2 million Muslim pilgrims
Saudi scholars condemn violence
Sick
Sick of people who murder to advance their cause
terrorism is a return to the pre-Islamic ignorance
Terrorism is not Islam
Terrorism, again.
terrorism, fascism, Islamophobia... a strange mix indeed
terrorist attacks in Egypt
terrorists strike at the heart of Shi'a Islam
the truth about jihad
the two sides of Yusuf Qaradawi
to remember and again to condemn those who did it
Top Saudi cleric condemns terrorism
using Islam to fight terrorism
Wahhabi scholar condemns terrorism
Wahhabis condemning terrorism
When I read this in the news, my heart sank to the floor
And here are articles by other ordinary Muslims:
A Curse Upon the Brigands Who Kill Children, by Aziz Poonawalla
A Dastardly Act, by Ikram Seghal
A Muslim Surgeon's Prayer for His Fellow Americans, by Aftab Ahmad
Amid simmering religious tension, Muslims denounce killing of Christian family, by (Associated Press report)
Area Muslims slam suicide bombing, by Washington Times report
Bin Laden's Fatwa is a Call to Plunder Not Jihad, by Aziz H. Poonawalla
Defaming, Defiling, and Falsifying Islam: A Condemnation of al-Qaeda, by Frank M. Afflitto, convert to Islam
Does the Quran Sanction Violence?, by Mohamed Elmasry
Hirabah versus Jihad, by Robert D. Crane, convert to Islam
Horrified by What Happened in the U.S., by Ahmad Y. Majdoubeh
Human Nature at Its Worst, by Amir Meshkin
I Believe in Allah and America, by Arsalan Iftikhar
I'm Not the Enemy, by Reshma Memon Yaqub
Islam Demands a Muslim Response to 9/11 (PDF), by Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad
Islam condemns all acts of terrorism, by Daar-ul-Ehsaan
Islam is Not the Source of Terrorism, by Harun Yahya
Islam is Not to Blame, by Omar Sarwar
Islam is a Religion of Peace, Not Terrorism, by Muhammad Ali
Islam: A Home of Tolerance Not Fanaticism, by Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens)
Islamic Scholars Should Speak Up for the Truth about Islam and Jihad, by Laila Nasheeba-Or
Jihad Means Waging Peace and Justice, by Mohamed Elmasry
 
Ongoing: The Council on American-Islamic Relations
In an effort to show that Muslim activism against terrorism didn't stop after 9/11, this section contains press releases and statements by the Council on American-Islamic Relations condemning terrorist attacks. This is a resource in development. Subscribe to CAIR's mailing list to keep up with their latest statements and releases.
American Muslims Condemn Riyadh Bombings - May 23, 2003
CAIR Calls for Release of All Hostages in Iraq - Tuesday, September 21, 2004
CAIR Condemns 'Barbaric' London Terror Attacks - Thursday, July 07, 2005
CAIR Condemns Attack On Seattle Jewish Center - Saturday, July 29, 2006
CAIR Condemns Attack On U.S. Medical Personnel In Yemen - December 30, 2002
CAIR Condemns Attack on US Diplomatic Convoy in Gaza - October 15, 2003
CAIR Condemns Haifa Suicide Bombing - 10/04/2003
CAIR Condemns Hariri Assassination - Monday, February 14, 2005
CAIR Condemns Iraq Church Bombings - Sunday, August 01, 2004
CAIR Condemns Killing of British Hostage in Iraq - Friday, October 08, 2004
CAIR Condemns Murder of American in Saudi Arabia - Friday, June 18, 2004
CAIR Condemns Murder of Margaret Hassan - Wednesday, November 17, 2004
CAIR Condemns School Killings in Russia - Tuesday, September 07, 2004
CAIR Joins 'Call to Action' on Darfur Crisis - Tuesday, August 03, 2004
CAIR condemns Istanbul bombings - Thursday, November 20, 2003
CAIR condemns attacks on civilians - Thursday, March 28, 2002
CAIR condemns hostage-taking by Iraqi insurgents, calls for release of hostages - 4/9/2004
CAIR condemns killings in Iraq, Pakistan - Tuesday, March 02, 2004
CAIR condemns murder of American in Iraq - 5/11/2004
CAIR condemns mutilation of bodies in Iraq - Wednesday, March 31, 2004
CAIR statements on the events of September 11 - (various dates)
CAIR welcomes capture of Saddam Hussein - Sunday, December 14, 2003
CAIR-CAN Condemns Anti-Semitic Graffiti - August 25, 2004
CAIR-CAN Condemns Vandalism of Jewish Homes in Toronto - Friday, March 19, 2004
CAIR-CAN condemns Daniel Pearl killing - Friday, February 22, 2002
CAIR-CAN condemns bomb attack on Passover celebration in Israel - Thursday, March 28, 2002
CAIR-CAN condemns firebomb attack of Jewish school - Tuesday, April 06, 2004
CAIR-CAN condemns gang-rape of woman in Pakistan by tribal court - Friday, July 05, 2002
CAIR-CAN condemns hate graffiti on Edmonton synagogue - Wednesday, December 28, 2005
CAIR-CAN condemns killing of innocent Christian worshippers in Pakistan - Tuesday, October 30, 2001
CAIR-CAN: There is no justification for attacks on innocent people - Thursday, November 14, 2002
CAIR-NJ Offers Condolences to Coptic Community - Monday, January 17, 2005
CAIR: American Muslims Condemn Sectarian Mosque Bombing - 07/05/2003
Canadian Muslim scholars reject Bin Laden's calls for jihad - Monday, October 15, 2001
Canadian Muslims Condemn Recent Khadr Comments That Excuse Terrorism - Friday, March 05, 2004
Canadian Muslims condemn 9/11 terrorist attacks - Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Canadian Muslims condemn anti-Jewish article - Monday, January 12, 2004
Canadian Muslims condemn church attack in Pakistan - Sunday, March 17, 2002
Canadian Muslims condemn vandalism of synagogues - Friday, April 12, 2002
Muslims Condemn Philippines Airport Bombing - Tuesday, March 04 2003
Muslims Offer Help for Victims of Terrorist Attacks - 9/11/01
Muslims condemn anti-Jewish article - Wednesday, January 07, 2004
Muslims condemn anti-Semitic article - 11/8/2002
Muslims to hold 9/11 vigil at U.S. Capitol - Thursday, August 28, 2003
Muslims urged to donate for D.C. sniper victims - Wednesday, October 16, 2002
U.S. Imams Say Iraq Hostage-Takers Violate Islamic Beliefs - Friday, October 29, 2004
U.S. Muslim Group Condemns bin Laden Videotape - 09/11/2003
U.S. Muslims Condemn Madrid Bombings - 03/11/2004
U.S. Muslims call for 9/11/02 "Day of Unity and Prayer" - Tuesday, July 23, 2002
US Muslims Condemn Terrorism in Ad Campaign - March 8, 2003
We repudiate terrorism - Ibrahim Hooper, July 11, 2007

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