I wanna jump into PPC but....

Tre81

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All I have is 5 adwords vouchers and 3 Facebook vouchers. I know I will eventually have to grow some balls and get over my phobia as well as lose some money. But that's hard to swallow when your funds are limited such as I. I'm interested to know how many of you guys started PPC with chump change and actually started making a nice income within a couple months? Any good advice is more than welcome.
 


All I have is 5 adwords vouchers and 3 Facebook vouchers. I know I will eventually have to grow some balls and get over my phobia as well as lose some money. But that's hard to swallow when your funds are limited such as I. I'm interested to know how many of you guys started PPC with chump change and actually started making a nice income within a couple months? Any good advice is more than welcome.

Grow a pair and spend the money in clicks already. Its not like the clicks are going nowhere anyways - visitors will be going through aff links.

My advice? Accomplish $100/day from SEO traffic, then budget $100/day in paid traffic
 
dude...those coupons cost like 10-25% of the actual face value on digitalpoint...

....i mean, even if your campaigns have negative ROI (which they probably will, at first), you can't lose real money...start off with a campaign that is a proven converter on facebook and start slow (bid on younger demo) and start with a small budget, and easy converting offer....

PM me, if you need any help!
 
Go for it dude... run a small campaign. How long can ya keep those vouchers unused?

But make sure that you tracking the results well... I have seen many people earning decent money one day just to lose everything the very next day...So my advice is just do it... make couple of variations of one single offer and let them appear randomly.. and test the result.

Fuck the losers and keep the one which is giving you the best CTR. Remember, Tracking is important.. NO... it's actually MOST important.

Cheers.
 
I sat around doing fuck all for ages because I was scared and built a scarcity mentality around money for myself and was afraid to spend money from my pocket as I couldn't see the potential in it. The thing is, as soon as you start taking some action you realise that you absolutely HAVE to buy data to start and that you learn so, so much just by getting started and doing SOMETHING. Remember - 99% of the people on the Internet are likely making 1% of the money. As soon as you start making campaigns and stop reading you go from being in spectator mode (watching everyone else get rich), to PLAYER MODE which is where the learning and magic happens.

Here's some random generic advice:

1. Set up and learn Prosper and track everything to keyword level. EVERYTHING. Don't even start until you have set it up so that you know which keywords convert and which don't. It's free. Hosting is cheap. There is no excuse. This was a game changer for me.

2. Start with campaigns with a lower payout as they'll allow you to get a rounded idea of the testing/optimisation process without having to spend a fortune. Games, dating or email/zip submits can be good.

3. Set your campaign up and DON'T TOUCH IT for the first 24 hours. Just let data flood in and make some changes based on that. Don't micro-manage everything to fuck and pause a keyword after one click because you get scared. Just set an acceptable overall daily budget for the campaign.

4. Find out what offers are hot on the networks and push them. Some offers plain suck. EWA are good for sending out emails for this so if you're not a member already sign up to them. Their affiliate managers will also help you get rolling. Mine is Jared he's awesome.

5. Pick a traffic source and stick with it. There's a tendancy to try and learn everything and want to experiment but that just adds another variable to your noob career. Pick somewhere (Facebook, MSN, Media Traffic, Plenty Of Fish etc) and stick with it until you learn how to get something profitable there. My first big 'lightbulb' moments were on Trafficvance.

Good luck in your mission sir!
 
i dont think u can learn muc hon some vouchers - thats why they give em for free.
i had luc kto learn ppc in high budget companies but without that on my own tries on small $ i dont think id go far that easy.. would take me 10x more time.
 
I sat around doing fuck all for ages because I was scared and built a scarcity mentality around money for myself and was afraid to spend money from my pocket as I couldn't see the potential in it. The thing is, as soon as you start taking some action you realise that you absolutely HAVE to buy data to start and that you learn so, so much just by getting started and doing SOMETHING. Remember - 99% of the people on the Internet are likely making 1% of the money. As soon as you start making campaigns and stop reading you go from being in spectator mode (watching everyone else get rich), to PLAYER MODE which is where the learning and magic happens.

Here's some random generic advice:

1. Set up and learn Prosper and track everything to keyword level. EVERYTHING. Don't even start until you have set it up so that you know which keywords convert and which don't. It's free. Hosting is cheap. There is no excuse. This was a game changer for me.

2. Start with campaigns with a lower payout as they'll allow you to get a rounded idea of the testing/optimisation process without having to spend a fortune. Games, dating or email/zip submits can be good.

3. Set your campaign up and DON'T TOUCH IT for the first 24 hours. Just let data flood in and make some changes based on that. Don't micro-manage everything to fuck and pause a keyword after one click because you get scared. Just set an acceptable overall daily budget for the campaign.

4. Find out what offers are hot on the networks and push them. Some offers plain suck. EWA are good for sending out emails for this so if you're not a member already sign up to them. Their affiliate managers will also help you get rolling. Mine is Jared he's awesome.

5. Pick a traffic source and stick with it. There's a tendancy to try and learn everything and want to experiment but that just adds another variable to your noob career. Pick somewhere (Facebook, MSN, Media Traffic, Plenty Of Fish etc) and stick with it until you learn how to get something profitable there. My first big 'lightbulb' moments were on Trafficvance.

Good luck in your mission sir!

+rep, awesome advice. I know I suffer from watching everyone else make money and not doing anything myself.
 
i dont think u can learn muc hon some vouchers - thats why they give em for free.
i had luc kto learn ppc in high budget companies but without that on my own tries on small $ i dont think id go far that easy.. would take me 10x more time.

I'm not worried about how much time it takes. I just wanna learn and steadily get better and more knowledgable about what I'm doing. With the right knowledge I know the money will come after.
 
Get in and learn what you can. Most people fuck up and only get a few leads/sales.

If you don't have the money to hang in long enough to learn the system, learn SEO.
 
I'm not worried about how much time it takes. I just wanna learn and steadily get better and more knowledgable about what I'm doing. With the right knowledge I know the money will come after.

Just wrap your head around the basics and jump in. You can't gain knowledge until you gain experience, and you can't gain experience without doing something. Until you actually start that campaign everything is theory. Only by tracking and testing can you gain specific actionable intelligence that will help you in the future.
 
Most people fuck up and only get a few leads/sales.

This.

The thing is (and this was something huge that I didn't get for a long time) is that the only way you can LOSE at this game is by not playing and sitting on the sidelines.

You cannot fail to improve, gain knowledge or learn as long as you are making campaigns. Even if some lose money, you've paid for your education and you've learnt what NOT to do next time. Winning and learning, winning and learning. On a long enough timeline, you cannot fail.

Fuck I used to spend like $100 on a night out on alcohol or on dumb retarded shit.... it's a much better investment to throw that into a PPC campaign as education and learn how to make potentially a very, very good living.

Stop over analysing and start working. I guarantee you will learn more from actually making a campaign than thinking about it.
 
I didn't have a single voucher (probably should have) and my company account was down to a couple grand when we started buying traffic last year. Just go for it, assume you will lose everything and you are trading it for knowledge. Learn how to figure out where you are failing (you will fail a lot and its a good thing, means you are trying) and how to improve.
 
+rep

Exactly what I needed to hear at this point in my game.


I sat around doing fuck all for ages because I was scared and built a scarcity mentality around money for myself and was afraid to spend money from my pocket as I couldn't see the potential in it. The thing is, as soon as you start taking some action you realise that you absolutely HAVE to buy data to start and that you learn so, so much just by getting started and doing SOMETHING. Remember - 99% of the people on the Internet are likely making 1% of the money. As soon as you start making campaigns and stop reading you go from being in spectator mode (watching everyone else get rich), to PLAYER MODE which is where the learning and magic happens.

Here's some random generic advice:

1. Set up and learn Prosper and track everything to keyword level. EVERYTHING. Don't even start until you have set it up so that you know which keywords convert and which don't. It's free. Hosting is cheap. There is no excuse. This was a game changer for me.

2. Start with campaigns with a lower payout as they'll allow you to get a rounded idea of the testing/optimisation process without having to spend a fortune. Games, dating or email/zip submits can be good.

3. Set your campaign up and DON'T TOUCH IT for the first 24 hours. Just let data flood in and make some changes based on that. Don't micro-manage everything to fuck and pause a keyword after one click because you get scared. Just set an acceptable overall daily budget for the campaign.

4. Find out what offers are hot on the networks and push them. Some offers plain suck. EWA are good for sending out emails for this so if you're not a member already sign up to them. Their affiliate managers will also help you get rolling. Mine is Jared he's awesome.

5. Pick a traffic source and stick with it. There's a tendancy to try and learn everything and want to experiment but that just adds another variable to your noob career. Pick somewhere (Facebook, MSN, Media Traffic, Plenty Of Fish etc) and stick with it until you learn how to get something profitable there. My first big 'lightbulb' moments were on Trafficvance.

Good luck in your mission sir!
 
Grow a pair and spend the money in clicks already. Its not like the clicks are going nowhere anyways - visitors will be going through aff links.

My advice? Accomplish $100/day from SEO traffic, then budget $100/day in paid traffic

Exactly what Im trying to do haha.

Natural Progression: SEO -->FB--->Adwerdz/Bing/Yahoo--->PPV---->MediaBuying--->World Domination
 
what the fuck is this seo fb adwerdz flow chart shit
fuckin get into PPC or dont its that simple seriously stick2herbs that was one of the dumbest posts ive seen on this forum in awhile...dont quit ur day job