I just left an 80 cent tip...

At 26, I've been tipping people for about ten years now here in the US. I tip just about all the time, and I've traveled a little outside the States, granted NOT A LOT, but this statement:

"The tipping culture in North America means that the service is superior to other places in the world where tipping is unheard of."

I do not believe for one second this is even remotely true for us here. The tipping culture here just means that the majority of the people in the service/hospitality industries EXPECT a tip upon doing their service...JUST FOR DOING IT. That is a reality, regardless of the service QUALITY...this becomes more of an afterthought for most (not in all situations such as "luxury setting, but lets be realistic and speak in "everyday America" for a moment

. If the additional quality of service is there, well then the expectations continue to rise. My point is, the consumer does not start with the option of paying nothing, "0" in this sense. We are now expected to start at "1", and then increase upon the quality of service, but somehow we should be looked down upon for not wanting to tip certain people AT ALL? I tip, but lets not kid ourselves and say that it is 100% because we are "insuring promptness". We are tipping because it is just the nice thing to do and I'm sure many here truly don't want to come off as a cheap-ass. That is why we tip in America, societal expectations on the consumer and self-consciousness.

Once again, I just don't think it is right to set additional expectations up for the consumer, especially in scenarios where they pay good money to enjoy their time/food without worrying about whether they have appropriately divided and distributed additional money that is the business owners/American society believes CERTAIN people in CERTAIN industries need.

Honestly, some service industry employees literally just make me UNCOMFORTABLE in the sense that they know WE KNOW these expectations are FIRMLY in place. To me, I'd rather pay a few bucks extra total on my bill than spend additional time "playing the owner" when I am trying to eat out or go on vacation with my family, etc.

I guess Pizza is one thing, and similar to another poster, with a college roomate managing a dominoes and pizza hut over the years, I've had enough free pizzas for a lifetime, so I always tip. My friends motto was always "dude tip AT LEAST two dollars everytime, they need it, etc"

Saying that though, it is ridiculous that we now live in this type of culture where if we DON'T do something that we should have every right NOT to do, we should/can be punished somehow. Often times through people messing with and putting bodily fluids in our food? Fuck that, I'm sorry, but I just don't think they worry about that in a lot of other developed nations. ie "gee if I don't tip this person they might start fucking with my food"...THAT is the tipping culture here in America that most people battle with in their heads probably at least a few times a month here. Maybe I am completely off-base, that is why I love speaking to wf'ers in other areas of the world.
 


At 26, I've been tipping people for about ten years now here in the US. I tip just about all the time, and I've traveled a little outside the States, granted NOT A LOT, but this statement:

"The tipping culture in North America means that the service is superior to other places in the world where tipping is unheard of."

I do not believe for one second this is even remotely true for us here. The tipping culture here just means that the majority of the people in the service/hospitality industries EXPECT a tip upon doing their service...JUST FOR DOING IT. That is a reality, regardless of the service QUALITY...this becomes more of an afterthought for most (not in all situations such as "luxury setting, but lets be realistic and speak in "everyday America" for a moment

. If the additional quality of service is there, well then the expectations continue to rise. My point is, the consumer does not start with the option of paying nothing, "0" in this sense. We are now expected to start at "1", and then increase upon the quality of service, but somehow we should be looked down upon for not wanting to tip certain people AT ALL? I tip, but lets not kid ourselves and say that it is 100% because we are "insuring promptness". We are tipping because it is just the nice thing to do and I'm sure many here truly don't want to come off as a cheap-ass. That is why we tip in America, societal expectations on the consumer and self-consciousness.

Once again, I just don't think it is right to set additional expectations up for the consumer, especially in scenarios where they pay good money to enjoy their time/food without worrying about whether they have appropriately divided and distributed additional money that is the business owners/American society believes CERTAIN people in CERTAIN industries need.

Honestly, some service industry employees literally just make me UNCOMFORTABLE in the sense that they know WE KNOW these expectations are FIRMLY in place. To me, I'd rather pay a few bucks extra total on my bill than spend additional time "playing the owner" when I am trying to eat out or go on vacation with my family, etc.

I guess Pizza is one thing, and similar to another poster, with a college roomate managing a dominoes and pizza hut over the years, I've had enough free pizzas for a lifetime, so I always tip. My friends motto was always "dude tip AT LEAST two dollars everytime, they need it, etc"

Saying that though, it is ridiculous that we now live in this type of culture where if we DON'T do something that we should have every right NOT to do, we should/can be punished somehow. Often times through people messing with and putting bodily fluids in our food? Fuck that, I'm sorry, but I just don't think they worry about that in a lot of other developed nations. ie "gee if I don't tip this person they might start fucking with my food"...THAT is the tipping culture here in America that most people battle with in their heads probably at least a few times a month here. Maybe I am completely off-base, that is why I love speaking to wf'ers in other areas of the world.
This, tip for good service, don't for bad service, simple as.
 
whenever my wife wants to order pizza I quickly tell her that i will go pick it up.

Why tip a stranger when I can just tip myself?

After a few times of doing this my wife noticed a jet ski in our back yard and asked where I got the money to purchase it. I told her I been saving up on the tips I got from delivering pizza.
 
We used to get the delivery guy blazed as fuck, he always came straight over with piping hot pies, sometimes extras for free. And we always kicked him some slices if he was hungry. Be cool, get treated cool. It's the way the world works. The time we had a nitrous tank in the house for a month was a little much tho, he ended up driving into the neighbors fence after hitting the floor one night.
 
We used to get the delivery guy blazed as fuck, he always came straight over with piping hot pies, sometimes extras for free. And we always kicked him some slices if he was hungry. Be cool, get treated cool. It's the way the world works. The time we had a nitrous tank in the house for a month was a little much tho, he ended up driving into the neighbors fence after hitting the floor one night.

lol wtf did he do, drive while sucking down a fucking balloon?

WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAHHHHHHH
 
At 26, I've been tipping people for about ten years now here in the US. I tip just about all the time, and I've traveled a little outside the States, granted NOT A LOT, but this statement:

"The tipping culture in North America means that the service is superior to other places in the world where tipping is unheard of."

I do not believe for one second this is even remotely true for us here.

Then you've not traveled enough.
 
I love the guys who are like "well they are just losers or bums." If it wasn't for those people being losers, bums, or down on their luck, who the fuck is going to serve you or bring your lazy ass pizza or whatnot? If everyone was ballin no one would do the job!

or be anyone to punch their credit cards into rebill LPs
 
Then you've not traveled enough.

Can you give me an example of some comparable developed nations that do not have this "tipping culture that makes the service superior" in general?

I've just never heard of anyone I know traveling abroad and coming home being like "Oh my god, they don't really believe in tips over there so the service was horrible most of the time because they just don't care...WHY WOULD THEY...THEY DON'T TIP OVER THERE!"

I have never heard one person say that to me, whereas I have personally heard DOZENS of stories from people traveling to the United States that were "kind of shocked" at the tipping culture here. Just reading this subforum there are tons of them. On a related note, people from other countries also DESPISE the fact that we don't list the FULL price of an item in our stores due to different sales taxes, etc. I knew a chick from Australia that bitched about the shit everytime we went to a store, and in my opinion, she had a very good point. We are just not very consumer-friendly here as much as we say we are. The price on the tag is NEVER the real price of the item, etc...just seems kind of like the whole tipping thing...more EXPECTATIONS placed on the consumers...

I am under the impression that tips are accepted pretty universally around the globe as a way to reward prompt and quality service. My point is that here in the U.S. it seems that tipping is an AUTOMATIC SELECTIVE EXPECTATION (in certain industries), and it is not just ACCEPTED AS A REWARD for great service. In what other scenario should the consumer be punished (and somehow it is OK for this to happen and even seen as an EXPECTATION itself!) for not rewarding someone they believe doesn't deserve the reward? That is what I have a problem with.

The consumer should be in control at all times without fear of being "punished" IMO, and other countries do a better job at this from what I've read and personally heard. Many countries do a MUCH WORSE job than us too....but I'd like to think we have some room for improvement in these areas. You don't think we can/should?
 
Lol I know what you mean, I wonder if Ian will ever host a dinner himself <:action-smiley-027:>


PS.

My favorite part of this thread and any other thread that goes into tipping on Wickedfire is that 90% of the people at affiliate conferences are the cheapest motherfuckers ever when it comes to tips yet they talk a big game online. Just spend 20 minutes watching an open bar at an Affiliate Summit party and you'll see what I mean.
 
Also I would like to share a story about tipping.

Me and my partner went out for a business lunch meeting and some random nice place. We had some drinks & a nice lunch and left. The bill was probably $2xx.

The next day we are walking around the mall and our waitress sees us and runs up to us, hugs up, and then proceeds to start crying and babbling about "OMG you guys are so awesome for leaving me a tip like that!" etc.

After she walked away I looked at my buddy and was like 'bro do you even remember how much we left her?' and he said "nope" lol. I'm sure we left a good $70-80 for her just because we enjoyed our time at the place and we have $ and arent snobs with it.

I always tip good. It really does make a persons day if they deserve it and/or struggling with bills/life.

karma baby, karma.
 
Can you give me an example of some comparable developed nations that do not have this "tipping culture that makes the service superior" in general?

MOAR, Japan. Australia. Singapore. Hongkong. China (sort of developed). :eatmousepointer:
 
Since we're getting into another Tipping thread, I guess this would be an appropriate place to share my rant.

The other night my husband and I met his co workers at a nice place for drinks. It was Cinco De Mayo and there was a gourmet buffet thing going on. I wasn't really hungry so I just kinda picked off my husband's plate. He had 1 drink I had two. When the bill for the table came the lady didn't want to split it up so we had to divide it amongst ourselves. Someone decided it would only be "fair" if we split it 8 ways since there were 8 people at the table. Didn't matter that I hadn't really eaten or that the 3 guys across from us had about 7 drinks each. So we had to shell out 160 dollars (80 dollars each).

I'm not sure what should have been done differently but it just didn't seem right.

Btw her tip was included which was fine and no dirty looks. Yeah really this post had nothing to do with OP but I wanted to vent.