How educated are you?



I did my BSc in Maths and after that did professional exams (Actuarial exams while working for HSBC).

Very good pay while at HSBC (actuarial work is the ultimate closed shop where the profession sets it's own pay and business just gratefully sucks it up). Left because couldn't stand/was really bad at office politics (which determines how far you rise in any given corp, regardless of merit).

All that training helped in that it makes me respect the numbers regardless of how the heart is feeling about a project.

But the emphasis on ethics in the actuarial education hinders me - I feel evil even when taking a mild manoeuvres that my competitors wouldn't think twice about. But on the other hand the education means I'm fully aware of my weaknesses which enables me to work on eradicating them. I know intellectually that I'll have arrived as a business person when I truly don't care about the rest of the world outside my family... At which point I'll have made enough money to scatter money to helpful projects to alleviate my conscience and justify it all!

Tl;Dr Education messes up your thinking processes (especially teaching about ethics vs how the world really works) and makes it take longer to reach your goals!
 
Degree in Economics and potentially a masters in the future but out of an interest in the field not out of desire to work etc. Plus education down here is cheap.
 
Left when I was 13. I was always told by my brother I would regret it. Now he is the one with a shitty arts degree and no job. I never had a job and I was never conditioned to be a wage slave by the school system. I jumped straight into internet marketing. Many of the biggest earners i know quit school.
 
I'm considering going to university in fall for business management...

Don't know many people with biz degrees, anyone know how those usually turn out?
 
dmnEPC said:
Graduated from Stanford. Looking back I'm glad I did it. But overall it was a waste of time. Even with the prestigious name my degree has done little to nothing for my career. Maybe if I went corporate, but that will happen as soon as hell freezes over
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I remember before I transferred to the east coast #Crimson, when we used to hang out - I always wondered why you even bothered with the whole thing - cause you didn't seem like a 'career' kind of guy. That shit always puzzled me...
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BS Econ/Mgmt

pre-law intention... so some polsci and phil. I lived off of student loans, and taught myself internet stuff. Econ taught me law school was a bad idea, and I was making way more than lawyers without the new hoops.

That was 12 years ago. Not sure what things are like now.

Before that, I worked in some auto factory jobs, landscaping, machine shops, etc. I was a good employee.

The education was useful for me as a person, overall. It was economically useful for me because I had low interest loans to finance my self directed and self taught education. I'd do it again.

The paper degree meant something to my nearly never college educated family, but has never meant anything to me. I'm the same anti-authority-foul-mouthed-high-school-drop-out I always was.

I had entrepreneurial parents... so I knew I didn't have to be an employee. I haven't had a job since 2001, bought 3 cars for other people, and will be happy to dig ditches for money if needed. Mentors taught me to be charitable along the way. I wouldn't have done it on my own.




scum bag said:
I'm considering going to university in fall for business management...

Don't know many people with biz degrees, anyone know how those usually turn out?
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It depends on how much you're paying for that degree. It could be worthless. Or, it could land you a job where you'd meet some ridiculously unethical people. If you really want a business education, it's online for free these days. If you need and want some instruction, you can get that without tuition. Show up for classes.

Mid-level paper is useless. Unless you're getting top level paper with connections and job hooks, degrees are useless. If you're interested in the education, you can learn it yourself right now, or just show up for classes and learn.

I wish someone would have told me that.
 
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i went into college for business hoping there would be more hustler-minded people like me, but almost everyone i met in college were too timid to deviate from the norms and pursue the entrepreneurial path.

i also realized that what they teach in college i could learn from books, the internet, and personal experience for far cheaper and far greater rewards.

in a last resort effort, i switched majors to psychology, but like it is with business, you can learn everything about psychology on the internet. so i did just that to become a genius in the fields i was interested in, and i dropped out afterwards.

there is absolutely no reason to go to college nowadays IF all the necessary information for implementation for your major can be found online. then again, most people dont go to college for information, they go to conform and for the degree, to get a job working for people who never needed college because they understand the fundamentals of business and human/consumer psychology.
 
dmnEPC said:
Graduated from Stanford. Looking back I'm glad I did it. But overall it was a waste of time. Even with the prestigious name my degree has done little to nothing for my career. Maybe if I went corporate, but that will happen as soon as hell freezes over
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ooooo we got ourselves here an educated stanford nigga. peasant, i graduated from stanford finance 96 berkeley business 00' MIT engineering 2004 and harvard chemical brain engineering 2012 suck my balls
 
conjamuk said:
Left when I was 13. I was always told by my brother I would regret it. Now he is the one with a shitty arts degree and no job. I never had a job and I was never conditioned to be a wage slave by the school system. I jumped straight into internet marketing. Many of the biggest earners i know quit school.
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Love this , I feel pity for people that say degree is everything .They are just brought up like that .
 
BS Finance.

Never did much with it, and only worked the "real jobs" I did after college because of all the debt I immediately had to start paying on to get it.

If I could do it over again, I would have skipped college or majored in compsci or engineering (i.e. one of the few no bullshit technical skills you can learn as an undergraduate). I think I come across as "college educated" but college doesn't have much to do with that.

That said, If I hadn't gone to college, I'm pretty sure I'd always feel like I had missed out on something or that people that had gone knew something I didn't. Isn't that a bitch.

P.S.: In case anyone thinking about going to college for undergraduate business studies is wondering: don't bother. Learn a technical skill or don't go.

You can learn the business shit elsewhere, which is the only place you should be learning it. You aren't going to learn "business" in a classroom. Half of my "business management" courses were about shit like the ins and outs of Total Quality Mangement of the nitty gritty specifics of running a generic widget factory. Or how to define a corporate Mission Statement as if you're the CEO of fucking McDonalds. Exactly 0.000001% of graduates will ever be in a position to do anything with that domain specific information (and only after 5-10+ years of experience), but there it was all over the place.

Half or more of your professors will have zero business experience, and the ones that do will hold out on you and read from a textbook written by someone with zero business experience. In the rare occasions you are presented with some actual business gems you'll probably have no reference by which to recognize or apply them because you're a goddamn undergraduate with no experience.

The only reason you should be taking business courses is because you have to as part of an MBA program in order to get the networking ops and good ol boy connections at a top school.

Possible exception: you love the tedious things in life and want to major in accounting. They get pretty good starting salaries and there's usually plenty of work.

Less compelling but possibly valid exception: you want to be McGrunin minus the McGrunin and work on Wall Street ASAP. Then I guess an undergrad finance or econ degree is the best choice. But if you're not at a top school, it probably doesn't fucking matter and you'd be better off majoring in math and/or stats (if you're smart) and getting into the quant side of finance (once again, a technical skill). Most of finance/econ is memorizing equations smarter people that were good at math figured out.
 
5 years, Business degree, major: Information Systems... I wouldn't trade those 5 years of banging hotties for anything! ;)
 
I have a BS in Finance form a Big Ten school. I graduated 12 years ago and worked full time for almost 9 months before I quit and went back to IM full time (which is what I used to support myself and my drinking during college). I'm not really cut out to work for anyone else, I always believe I know a better way to do things so I'm not great at being told what to do and how to do it.....just give me a job and I'll get it done but if you tell me a stupid way to do it it'll drive me nuts. I remember my first week at my real job, they give me some menial data work to do and told me to have the first half done by the end of the week. I finished the entire set in 2 hours because I wrote a script rather than doing it all manually and they insisted that I go back and redo it all manually because they didn't trust the automation. Corporate America isn't my thing.


I had a great time in college and if i could go back in time I'd do it again. The degree isn't worth anything to me but the experience was priceless.
 
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