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Dwight & Jeffrey Thanks man I really appreciate it!
I'm so proud that my domestic partner jeffrey allowed me to use our joint checking account to donate!
Thank you for letting me, hun!
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Personally, yes. If I was diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, I would not turn to the medical world to cure me. I could go on further with this, but then it would just be a back and forth cite your sources conversation. The problem with citing your sources for natural cures is natural cures don't get mass funding for documentation and holding large tests to show their effectiveness. So you end up with a bunch of sources with questionable credibility.
Do you seriously think we have enough information about how cancer works and how our bodies work in order to come up with some sort of magical non-natural cure/pill for something as "ridiculously complex" as cancer? That can somehow treat each persons individual case and body?
Modern medicine is great for trauma, surgery, and emergency situations. Other then that, I side with Natural > Synthetic - for healing everything else.
And really... Lets get the whole "you must not know what you're talking about" bullshit out of the way. No one here knows what they're talking about. We are just swapping opinions on a forum.
The author of the best selling book on cancer prevention recently died of a recurrent brain tumor. His initial cancer was treated with conventional methods such as chemo, but he goes through heaps of studies about certain foods you should be eating to stop it coming back, natural ways to prevent cancer. Then he goes and dies on us, taking away all hope.
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Being ignored by dchuk sure, I can handle that, it's normal. But ignored by nick throlson? Just because I'm not American? I has a sad
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Then you'd likely die. Don't fall for charlatan homeopathy bullshit. Snake oil doesn't cure cancer, neither do magnets or crystals or whatever other bullshit natural thing people claim is a miraculous cure all.
I'll give to another organization or research group besides the ACS. Them and United Way are on my "No" list.
It's been proven that screening for breast cancer actually creates a lot more cancer since a lot of lumps are benign and surgey+chemo+radiation actually creates more cancer. This is not tinfoil but well documented.
Cancer is to my understanding not a disease but a symptom. Similar to have Multiple Schlerosis isn't a disease either but a symptom.
There is a real issue imo, with modern medicine mainly treating symptoms but not the underlying cause. I read in a recent article that 1/3 of all cancers are cause by infection (hepatitis, herpes and similar). It would seem that focusing on what causes cancer would be just as important as treating tumors. There are huge differences between cultures and lifestyles in what causes cancer. I believe toxicity in our enviroment is probably the biggest cause. There's so much shit in our air, food and water from straight poison to hormones that it's no wonder it messes with our bodies.
Also, a lot of cancer deaths are not because of the tumors but because of infections because of a destroyed immune system after chemo.
Even taking your tinfoil hat off, it would seem prudent to investigate all these 'natural cures' like DCA, Vit C mega injections etc in scientific studies. These are treatments with a lot of anecdotal evidence but with very little interest from scientists. There is a lot of arrogance and lobbyism in the medical communtiy. Does anyone for example really believe that there are so many mentally ill people or that maybe it has something to do with the criteria being changed for the benefit of pharma, who'se main income these days are psycofarma?
Agreed in the sense when the snake oil salesman says the herbal active ingredient survives a measured 1 to millions per part dilution due to the water having "memory".
Disagree on the posts that suggest a natural slant has no part in the solution for some problems. Thank reason for bread mold. Seriously who would have guessed what we take for granted now.
Mr. Throlson major props for the thread and donating now to the cause via a different method due to your activism. Nothing against TACS just ran into some % of $ donated to admin ratio that didn't work for me.
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I agree. Aspirin was willow tree bark extract. Poppies have been used for ages to relieve pain. Lots of things were at one time "alternative medicine." However as with both of those examples when empirically proven they become just regular old medicine. A bit of research should prove if a "natural remedy" is legit or not. If it's being used in medicine, then go for it. Also of course I agree with your stance on homeopathy.
Anyway. BUMP.
Always interesting to see how successful drug companies are at convincing the mass. Crazy people telling you to listen to your body, watch what you eat and exercise are the "snake oil selling charlatans". Not Pfizer telling me the solution is in a simple pill and this pill amazingly works for everyone's varying individual cases.
You're right, Pfizer definitely has my best interest at heart and wouldn't dare mislead me.
Eating healthy and exercising hardly fall under alternative medicine. No, I don't believe in Pfizer because they have my "best interest at heart" but because they've actually done studies and are backed up by something at least resembling proof. (as opposed to anecdotal evidence.) Don't say that it's because not as much money is put into natural medicine. If there is a natural medicine that actually works then it'll be turned into a real medicine so that Pfizer can make a buck. (a la penicillin, aspirin, opium.) The reason there is no proof for these alt medicines is because there is none.
I think you've mistaken 'alternative medicine' with 'acting healthy'.
Also have you ever been to a doctor? The first thing they will tell you is almost always "diet and exercise".
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Those things can't be patented. Pfizer had no reason to test for completely natural cures to erectile dysfunction because anyone could then have sold it. Instead with Viagra, they were able to patent it and reap all the rewards.
As a cure for cancer? No, but there are plenty of studies suggesting the benefits of various herbs, the antibacterial properties of garlic for example, etc.
Vitamin E in diet protects against many cancers, study suggests
Vitamin D protects against obesity-induced endometrial cancer, study suggests
Fish oil could be therapy for periodontal disease
Fish oil given intravenously to patients in intensive care has many benefits, study finds
New testing method hints at garlic's cancer-fighting potential
Garlic oil shows protective effect against heart disease in diabetes