HELP!! Hydra Leads Invalidated!!

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naorgil

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I am new to the AM game and have about 500 leads being invalidated by Hydra. Like I said I am a noob and didn't realize I could not run two valentines offers on search and I did. I made about $6,000 profit and spend close to $1,500.

Hydra sent me an email this morning and I talked to my AM manager and he claims there isnt much they can do. He says the advertiser has invalidated all of my leads.

I had talked to fellow AMers where I live about the situation before when I stopped the campaign and they said they would be very suprised if I didnt get at least partial payment.

Does anybody have any advice, this would be a HUGE blow for the month.

Naor

I should add that the two offers are the same sister companies.
 


I'm thinking it's a a flower offer which would explain the $15 CPA. He probably bid on trademarked terms when not allowed.
 
oh, didn't read your post carefully. Nope, nothing you can do about it. You best bet is to cry to your AM, but they aren't the ones making the rules.
 
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I occasionally lose a lead or two due to on hydra due to invalidated leads. Out of the thousands of leads I've only lost like 2 or 3 leads total. They emailed me each time and give me the reasons why. I believe the person ordered with prepaid credit card is the only reason i've gotten so far. Them being very upfront & honest and low dollar amounts I do not care.

Should the prepaid leads be shaved? Sure, Absolutely. I provided zero value to the company.

Now in your case...

Lets say you had spent $1500 to make about 500 leads. that's about $3 a lead. That sounds an awful like you were just paying 2.95 for S&H with prepaid cards...

I tend to believe this story better than your story....
 
Why is everyone disbelieving everything? What does it matter my ROI.

TM bid + valentines offer + no competition = crazy ROI.

I am not lying I can promise you that, it would make no sense for me to lie. I am just trying to gain some info on this type of situation, cause I am costing myself a lot of money!
 
oh, didn't read your post carefully. Nope, nothing you can do about it. You best bet is to cry to your AM, but they aren't the ones making the rules.

I was hoping this wasnt the truth. It really feels like Hydra didn't try and pull through for me at all.
 
I was hoping this wasnt the truth. It really feels like Hydra didn't try and pull through for me at all.

What do you want them to do? You ran some traffic that you weren't suppose to. Then you cry fowl when the advertiser gives you the finger. Then you tell everyone they should care.

I personally never used Hydra, but every other network always lists if you can't bid on certain keywords or the type of traffic accepted. I'm sure Hydra is no differnt.

If it makes you feel any better, Hydra probably isn't getting anything out of it either.
 
Why is everyone disbelieving everything? What does it matter my ROI.

TM bid + valentines offer + no competition = crazy ROI.

If you bid on the companies own trademarks, then its definately your fault and your probobly not getting anything.
 
I know multiple people who got caught for TM bidding and got paid on every single one. Is it common to simply not get paid? They usually just give you a warning tell you to knock it off and ban you from the campaign. They don't not pay you at all, or am I wrong?
 
I know multiple people who got caught for TM bidding and got paid on every single one. Is it common to simply not get paid? They usually just give you a warning tell you to knock it off and ban you from the campaign. They don't not pay you at all, or am I wrong?

Hello friend,

It up to merchant. Some merchant nice and pay for lead already made but tell you to never do again.

If merchant no nice no pay at all. If they no pay then Hydra no get money. And if Hydra no get money why expect they pay you and lose money?

Good luck bro
 
Hello friend,

It up to merchant. Some merchant nice and pay for lead already made but tell you to never do again.

If merchant no nice no pay at all. If they no pay then Hydra no get money. And if Hydra no get money why expect they pay you and lose money?

Good luck bro

Obviously if Hydra doesnt get paid they wont pay me. I am mad at Hydra for failing to extract money, I really feel like they have many angles they could take to get money. I also feel like somehow Hydra is getting their cut because they would care a lot more. My AM manager told me this happened with more then just me on the network, Hydra could stand to lose a chunk of change on this whole odreal, which makes me think they are throwing us under the bus and simply taking thier cut, which is fucked up.
 
No one owes you a dime. You'll have to get over it. Next time, use your head and not waste your money. That way you won't end up in this position.
 
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