Have you taken LSD?

[BigWill]

Fact: you cannot overdose on LSD.

FALSE. Wtf.

Please do not take 5-7 hits. lol. I don't know what kind of diluted shit you are buying. When I was slanging that shit I would use rubber gloves or tweezers. I enjoyed my sanity when I wanted it there.

I watched my buddy eat a book, this was 15 years ago. He IS STILL tripping. He lives in a mental institution. His brain pretty much went full retard. I have seen this happen with a few different people. From different drugs, whether it be PCP, crack, meth or whatever it can really fuck up your brain.

Maybe you are talking about LSA (non chemist made)?

 

[thehobbster]

How did I miss this thread with you guys talm bout dosing and Ram Dass and shit.

Yeah, me and grind went to burning man and both did thumbprints. we left micro and went straight to milligrams. keep up, lil homies

EDIT: to the guys above saying you can overdose on LSD need to get their science in check and figure out what the LD-50 is. but you can fuck your gourd up for a long time, if not permanently. but at least you'll have transcended

 

[msharron]

Took a party blotter in my early 20 ' s and it turned bad. First the spiders came. These were some real nasty looking black widow bast 'ards. Then the snakes tried to get me. Then the devil himself sent shit through the walls after me to claim my soul. Im not religious but if I had been I'd have been beating myself with a belt asking for forgiveness. This lasted for about 12 hours. Absolutely awesome experience and really insightful. Saw some amazing things and it gave me an insight into the fabric of my mind. A manic aggressive housemate we took the trips with on the other hand was'nt to able to process that it was just her mind playing tricks and she crawled up into a ball and hid under her bed, terrified, crying for the duration. Very satisfying to discover behind her unpleasantness she was just a scared little girl.

 

[Andrey]

FALSE. Wtf.

Please do not take 5-7 hits. lol. I don't know what kind of diluted shit you are buying. When I was slanging that shit I would use rubber gloves or tweezers. I enjoyed my sanity when I wanted it there.

I watched my buddy eat a book, this was 15 years ago. He IS STILL tripping. He lives in a mental institution. His brain pretty much went full retard. I have seen this happen with a few different people. From different drugs, whether it be PCP, crack, meth or whatever it can really fuck up your brain.

Maybe you are talking about LSA (non chemist made)?

Science tells us otherwise. According to 3 Harvard Ph.D.'s Tim Leary, Richard Alpert and Ralph Metzner who wrote the dose is 200-500ug for LSD-25 to have a full experience. These guys have tested it on thousands of people back in the days. Now avg blotters contain like 50-75ug as far as I know. So this translates to said 4-10 hits. You can start with 3. 1-2 is just too weak and you always wish you went full amount. So probably avg street hits have 50ug and you need 10 to have full 500. I have tried diff batches over the years. Judging by experience, duration, time it takes to kick in it is real deal.

I think a lot of people are confused by Terrence Mc Kenna as he says 3 grams of mushrooms is hero dose. Maybe for him, but it is really a minimum dose for an ego death. Even 100 lb girls can do more. =)

Now ofc you know yourself better than anyone! If you had a lot of drug exposure with some non-psychedlic drugs, maybe you should start off slow. If you have some mental disorders, adhd, cannot concentrate for a long time, cannot remain calm and detached when dealing with your daily life, maybe you should be very careful and start small. No one knows you better than you.

Check your science on overdosing guys. It is pretty impossible to overdose physically. Now mentally it might be hella of a trip. But for a healthy individual it should be only good.

 

[Andrew Scherer]

His brain pretty much went full retard. I have seen this happen with a few different people.

Likewise, I have a buddy from HS that wrecked himself by taking too much LSD over just a short period of time. He was never the same after..

Not saying anything against psychedelics though, I have done my share and enough to not be atheist anymore lol.

 

[thehobbster]

^ If you don't approach the psychedelic with reverence as a tool for psychological and spiritual growth, you're in for a surprise.

 

[Hammad I]

All I know is that I don't want to be hooked onto a drug for life, regardless of the fact that it helps me improve my brain function or not. Whatever your reasons to take LSD may be, you can be darn sure that if you don't stop taking them then you never will see a reason to do that.

 

[golan]

If Clear Light is recognized, one will experience no or minimum hallucinations.

This is NOT that Clear Light that you read about in spiritual books. You can not experience anything close to the Clear Light under chemical/psychedelic influence.

 

[Suddenly_Ass]

Yes, numerous times. Haven't done it for years but I remember it fondly. I always had a blast. It's all about the mindset, use the trip, don't let the trip use you.

 

[BigWill]

Science tells us otherwise. According to 3 Harvard Ph.D.'s Tim Leary, Richard Alpert and Ralph Metzner who wrote the dose is 200-500ug for LSD-25 to have a full experience. These guys have tested it on thousands of people back in the days. Now avg blotters contain like 50-75ug as far as I know. So this translates to said 4-10 hits. You can start with 3. 1-2 is just too weak and you always wish you went full amount. So probably avg street hits have 50ug and you need 10 to have full 500. I have tried diff batches over the years. Judging by experience, duration, time it takes to kick in it is real deal.

I think a lot of people are confused by Terrence Mc Kenna as he says 3 grams of mushrooms is hero dose. Maybe for him, but it is really a minimum dose for an ego death. Even 100 lb girls can do more. =)

Now ofc you know yourself better than anyone! If you had a lot of drug exposure with some non-psychedlic drugs, maybe you should start off slow. If you have some mental disorders, adhd, cannot concentrate for a long time, cannot remain calm and detached when dealing with your daily life, maybe you should be very careful and start small. No one knows you better than you.

Check your science on overdosing guys. It is pretty impossible to overdose physically. Now mentally it might be hella of a trip. But for a healthy individual it should be only good.

Yea, ok. lol. I'll go a read a book about it. hahah.

1 hit is 1 hit for a reason. It's 1 drop from ice drop or a beaker or whatever you take it out of. IT IS NOT impossible to overdose physically. You can lose complete control of your body and not be able to move from even 1 hit.

You have obviously not done many drugs but just read about them

 

[Antics]

Wait, so are you saying you know more about LSD dosing and it's impact on the brain than Tim Leary?

Or maybe your friends just got shitty test chemicals instead of whatever they thought they were buying?

I wonder which is more likely.

 

[contract]

over 10 years.

haven't taken any in the last 10+ years

haven't done anything in 10+ years now.

It's interesting to see the similarity in responses here.

No judgement, just found this neat.

 

[Grindstone]

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

I saw two guys split a sheet, 50 hits each. Next time I saw them (3 months later), they were both still tripping balls and useless. Neither were even close to bright to begin with, so it could be that mental makeup plays a larger part in the individual response than "science" would lead us to believe.

I also know another guy who would slam down 5-15 tabs with regularity and go to work the next day. It's all relevant.

Owsley liquid in the palm of your hand in the Wonderland Of Rocks FTW. Just don't look down.

 

[Antics]

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

I saw two guys split a sheet, 50 hits each. Next time I saw them (3 months later), they were both still tripping balls and useless. Neither were even close to bright to begin with, so it could be that mental makeup plays a larger part in the individual response than "science" would lead us to believe.

I also know another guy who would slam down 5-15 tabs with regularity and go to work the next day. It's all relevant.

Owsley liquid in the palm of your hand in the Wonderland Of Rocks FTW. Just don't look down.

The Southwest and Northwest really kick the shit out of the rest of the country when it comes to tripping outdoors. Vermont/Upstate NY are cool certain times of year but there's just something about the PNW and the Desert that are just perfect for psychedelics.

 

[grimz1]

[*]A pad of paper and pens/pencils is a good idea. Load up an mp3 player/phone/iPod with your choice of songs, but I'd highly recommend including The Wall, Dark Side of The Moon, Revolver, Sergeant Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour and The White Album. I'd start off with some of the Beatles ones, then move into the Pink Floyd later.

Excellent choice of music

 

[Andrey]

This is NOT that Clear Light that you read about in spiritual books. You can not experience anything close to the Clear Light under chemical/psychedelic influence.

To make claims like this, perhaps you need to study the guide prior and do a trip with full 500ug. See what happens to you, since you already have experience with Clear Light in sober state, perhaps you will be a good judge of wheather it is real or not.

See this is exactly the type of approach you don't want to have. To have expectations and to feel like you know something. Don't be so convinced, life will prove your otherwise. It is much more true to realize you know nothing. But ofc ego death takes care of that. You are forced to be meek and humble or suffer greatly.

Do your own R&D and come and share. Should be a real test for your practices. Can show you where you stand.

 

[Andrey]

Yea, ok. lol. I'll go a read a book about it. hahah.

1 hit is 1 hit for a reason. It's 1 drop from ice drop or a beaker or whatever you take it out of. IT IS NOT impossible to overdose physically. You can lose complete control of your body and not be able to move from even 1 hit.

You have obviously not done many drugs but just read about them

It all depends on YOU. Some trip balls from 1 hit. It is like some ppl can barely do 1 chin up, others do 15 no problem. Depends on type of thoughts. emotions and motivations you are having daily and your ability to let go off them. Perhaps 1 hit is enough for you to jump in to hell realm, so you are frightened. I have had a lot of bad trips in the beginning too.

Yes you might not be in control of your body for some hrs. Even your breath might stop or slow down, if you take like 10 hits. The main thing is your attitude to it. If you don't panic, you are still okay. =)))

Plan properly. Take 3 days off. 1 before and 1 after. Prepare relaxing music. Clean up. Make sure a room is well lit. All these little things help. Have a place for you to lay, so you don't have to move or control your body. You are not the body is the whole point of this experience.

Maybe you had some bad trips on low doses and cannot fathom ppl taking 5-10 times the amount and having good time. That's why read the book bro. If you have read the books, you might have known how drastically diff the symptoms and affects of psychedelics are from let's say coke or meth or w/e other shit you cool kids are on. We were lucky to have a friend read encyclopedia of all drugs back in high school.

 

[sephiroth]

A pad of paper and pens/pencils is a good idea. Load up an mp3 player/phone/iPod with your choice of songs, but I'd highly recommend including The Wall, Dark Side of The Moon, Revolver, Sergeant Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour and The White Album. I'd start off with some of the Beatles ones, then move into the Pink Floyd later.
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My 2 favorite bands and 2 favorite bands to listen to while tripping. Great recommendations. Added suggestion would be to get into Pink Floyds earlier stuff like The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle. Also for some later Floyd The Final Cut is amazing. Couldn't imagine lsd without these albums. Great Beatles choices as well, would definitely throw in Rubber Soul on that list.

 

[-joe-]

IMO you either haven't had great lsd or haven't taken enough of it. I'm not saying you see stuff out of nowhere not derived from anything, but your description sounds like a mild trip. Not ruling out individual experience either.

So far, it's all been from the same sheet, some Albert Hofmanns that were going around early last year I think. I've never taken more than 1, but have only once taken less than 1 (half a tab). Is there anything in particular you were talking about? I think there may have been visuals, but they didn't stand out compared to everything else. I did discover that the iPhone takes some awesome photos if you don't give it time to capture the light properly, while trying to take a photo of an owl:

ego death

You still have your own mind, it's up to your brain to choose what level of ego you want to maintain.

My 2 favorite bands and 2 favorite bands to listen to while tripping. Great recommendations. Added suggestion would be to get into Pink Floyds earlier stuff like The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle. Also for some later Floyd The Final Cut is amazing. Couldn't imagine lsd without these albums. Great Beatles choices as well, would definitely throw in Rubber Soul on that list.

Thanks Nice one, cheers, I'm planning a trip soon with a couple of people, I'll get them downloaded and try them out!

 

[jryan21]

This would probably be cool to trip to. They use a lot of exotic time signatures, but always very precise:

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