Happy False Flag Day!

Wow, I've learned a valuable lesson here today.

Some people are fucking insane. I shall not debate them ever again.

I will not be harassed nor blackmailed into coming back to this thread... I do have some dignity that bluechinagroup seems to be unaware of.


Jfizzle, Moxie, all the rest of "my sheep": Stand down. This one's not worth it. ;)

Luke p every time u get owned u just put ur hands over your ears and shout "nanana I can't hear you" like a 8 year old kid. I know because u did it to me. You are the lowest of the low. A real piece of crusty shit. Thank god ur leaving the country. :rasta:
 


I don't know, say what you will, but for me it comes down to a few simple things:

1.) Too many irregularities. If there were just a few I could shrug them off, but there's literally hundreds. I won't regurgitate them all, because we all know them by now. There's just too many for my mind to dismiss them all as pure coincidence and/or human error though, which I would have to do in order to believe the official 9/11 story. Not to mention, for some you have to dismiss scientific fact and/or simple reality.

2.) For me at least, motive was far stronger for the US govt. The Bush administration was filled with war mongering neocons, and several of the top ranking officials were part of a group that published PNAC, publicly stating they wanted something like 9/11 so they could further their agenda in the Middle East via military force. For me, that's greater motive than some guys in a cave on the other side of the world hated our freedom.

3.) The investigation was an absolute disgrace from start to finish, and no developed nation in the world would ever contemplate conducting an official investigation in that manner. It was obvious they were covering up, and there are truths they didn't want the public to know about.

4.) The legacy of the Bush administration is one of lies, deceit, evasion, coverups, etc. These people had no problem standing in front of the world community, and lieing right to our faces about the threats we face, and the reasons for war with Iraq. They had no problem kidnapping people off the streets without legal process, torturing them, and holding them indefinitely without charge. Bush is on record saying the US constitution is just a "goddamn piece of paper", and argued the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to his troops. In short, they proved without question in my mind they're capable of an act such as 9/11.

Again, main thing is the irregularities. In order to believe the official 9/11 story, I would have to believe that 500,000 tonnes of steel & concrete imploded at free fall speed with no resistance. I would have to believe that against all engineering odds, WTC7 did the same. I would have to believe that even though the US created, trained, equipped, and financed al-Queda, they had nothing to do with the attacks. I would have to believe that al-Queda just magically got lucky, and picked the same day the US military was conducting war games of the same nature. I would have to believe that people actually called cell phones from 36,000 feet in the air, technology that wasn't even available at in 2001. I would have to dismiss the photographs of diagonally cut steel beams, and the hundreds of eyewitness reports of secondary explosions, etc.

And the list just goes on, and on, and on. Again, it's not two or three things, but hundreds. If the US govt wanted to put this whole 9/11 conspiracy to rest, they could have very easily done so, by doing what was expected of them -- a full, comprehensive, and open investigation. They didn't though. In fact, they did the total opposite.
 
Even so, bullshit edits on wikipedia can and do get corrected all the time. Well written wikipedia articles are also sourced with third party links.
No they don't, one of my crappier loan sites stayed on a very popular page for about 6 months (would've stayed longer, but the entire page got rewritten) because it was placed there by a "trustworthy" editor. (He had about 100,000 edits, and lots of editor related awards, but was selling on fiverr)
 
No they don't, one of my crappier loan sites stayed on a very popular page for about 6 months (would've stayed longer, but the entire page got rewritten) because it was placed there by a "trustworthy" editor. (He had about 100,000 edits, and lots of editor related awards, but was selling on fiverr)

Regardless I am still skeptical that 9/11 was an inside job involving controlled demolition. There's enough sourced information in that wikipedia page (as well as elsewhere that is more reliable than wikiedpa) to make me doubt controlled demolition was involved.

I'm not saying it's impossible or that the government wasn't involved in some other way, I just personally have strong doubts about the controlled demolition conspiracy.

I think what we can ALL agree on though is that the US government is anything but trustworthy. As for the 9/11 conspiracy, let's agree to disagree.
 


The Journal of 9/11 Research and 9/11 Issues

Was cold fusion used on 9/11? Where did the towers go? How did the towers turn to dust?

This is an interesting presentation that Dr Judy Wood gave at the the Breakthrough Energy Movement conference 2012 Holland. Its over 2 hours, but Dr Wood examines the evidence and provides her proof of concept making a compelling case.

I am sure most of you will dismiss this before you even watch it.





Never Forget
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People will continue to laugh at those who use faith rather than the scientific method.

What are you talking about. Your faith?

That post had nothing to do with faith. The video is made by a scientist, presented to scientists. So perhaps you were laughing at yourself?

Edit: did you even bother to look at the evidence? Or just use blind faith to dismiss it?
 
Also try to find any pictures of the United 93 wreckage and you will be disappointed. Just a smouldering black hole in the ground. No parts of an aircraft, anywhere.

I know there was something up from the moment they showed pictures of that. It was obviously fake.
 
What are you talking about. Your faith?

That post had nothing to do with faith. The video is made by a scientist, presented to scientists. So perhaps you were laughing at yourself?

Edit: did you even bother to look at the evidence? Or just use blind faith to dismiss it?

I skimmed through it. Calling stuff weird then saying you don't know what's going on isn't really helpful unless you actually get reproducible experiments out of it.
 
I skimmed through it. Calling stuff weird then saying you don't know what's going on isn't really helpful unless you actually get reproducible experiments out of it.

I agree. She was able to correlate many of those strange anomalies to John Hutchison's work.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUgDJc6AWE]hutchison effect - YouTube[/ame]

I am not claiming to know shit about any of this. The Hutchison Effect seems to explain some of those weird occurrences. What caused those tower's to collapse? I have no idea. It is strange how these same "anomalies" didn't occur in Washington. Is it possible that someone was able to scale the "Hutchison Effect"?
 
Saw this on ZeroHedge today.


A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson

Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union’s Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939 – while blaming the attack on Finland – as a basis for launching the “Winter War” against Finland

Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)

The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister

The British Prime Minister admitted to his defense secretary that he and American president Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan in 1957 to carry out attacks in Syria and blame it on the Syrian government as a way to effect regime change

The former Ukrainian security chief admits that the sniper attacks which started the Ukrainian coup were carried out in order to frame others

Britain’s spy agency has admitted to (and see this) that it carries out “digital false flag” attacks on targets, framing people by writing offensive or unlawful material … and blaming it on the target

and on and on...

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^You missed LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin False Flag and the Turkish one caught on camera last year... That was an instant classic:

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But yeah, deep down, governments care about us.
 
9/11 was done by the Israeli Mossad with the complicity of dual citizen American-Israelis and their Gentile lackeys.

Did Israel nuke America on 9/11? | Veterans Today
9/11: The Shocking Truth Laid Bare | Veterans Today
9/11 & The Jewish Gatekeepers | Real Jew News
The War On Terror Is A Jewish Hoax | Real Jew News
Never Forget: Jews Did 9/11 | Daily Stormer

But IMO if it wasn't for the Jews and their Supremacy hard-ons it would have been the CIA doing something similar. Gotta fund those black projects.