Guy Threatens Us & I'm Annoyed At MYSELF
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Your contribution here is?
Yes, every time I swing a golf club to hit a shot on the golf course I think about what I read in the over 200 books I own on Golf.
I am able to THINK of and EXECUTE all 300 things that MUST and DO take place every time I swing a golf club in the 0.9 seconds my swing takes to complete!!
Are you fucking serious?!!!
The BASIC info shared in this thread is to give someone with NO REAL FIGHT EXPERIENCE at least some information that is condensed and real world effective. (Not some Hollywood BS that will get you hurt.)
Of course if it is NOT thought upon and practiced then it will be of no use.
The paragraphs that you speak of are more on the side of SITUATION ASSESSMENT and AVOIDANCE.
I know mine had very little in the way of "Technique" for what I wrote about.
You are correct on one point though, under STRESS when not experienced in the situation, you will do whatever you've ingrained into your subconscious mind.
This forum is NOT a Self Defense Forum hence the BASIC info conveyed. There are plenty of other resources for in depth information.
I'll leave you with this little Tid-Bit.
Somewhere on some Forum years ago I read about keeping an Auto-Punch like they use in Machine Shops for marking where they will be drilling holes during the layout of a piece of material they are working on.
The purpose of this was so that if your car were to ever go off a bridge into water or got caught in a flash flood you could use this to crack your car window and GET OUT.
The spring in the auto punch is enough to do the job even under the pressure of the water outside. But takes very little effort on your part to make work.
I bought one and keep it in the center console of my car. Haven't had to use it yet, but I'm glad I found that info.
If I ever need to use it I now have it.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0"]Carl Douglas - Kung fu fighting(original) - YouTube [/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIT6vsyGkc"]Everybody is kung fu fighting - full song - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0"] [/ame]
Yes, every time I swing a golf club to hit a shot on the golf course I think about what I read in the over 200 books I own on Golf.
I am able to THINK of and EXECUTE all 300 things that MUST and DO take place every time I swing a golf club in the 0.9 seconds my swing takes to complete!!
Are you fucking serious?!!!
The BASIC info shared in this thread is to give someone with NO REAL FIGHT EXPERIENCE at least some information that is condensed and real world effective. (Not some Hollywood BS that will get you hurt.)
Of course if it is NOT thought upon and practiced then it will be of no use.
The paragraphs that you speak of are more on the side of SITUATION ASSESSMENT and AVOIDANCE.
I know mine had very little in the way of "Technique" for what I wrote about.
You are correct on one point though, under STRESS when not experienced in the situation, you will do whatever you've ingrained into your subconscious mind.
This forum is NOT a Self Defense Forum hence the BASIC info conveyed. There are plenty of other resources for in depth information.
I'll leave you with this little Tid-Bit.
Somewhere on some Forum years ago I read about keeping an Auto-Punch like they use in Machine Shops for marking where they will be drilling holes during the layout of a piece of material they are working on.
The purpose of this was so that if your car were to ever go off a bridge into water or got caught in a flash flood you could use this to crack your car window and GET OUT.
The spring in the auto punch is enough to do the job even under the pressure of the water outside. But takes very little effort on your part to make work.
I bought one and keep it in the center console of my car. Haven't had to use it yet, but I'm glad I found that info.
If I ever need to use it I now have it.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0"]Carl Douglas - Kung fu fighting(original) - YouTube [/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIT6vsyGkc"]Everybody is kung fu fighting - full song - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0"] [/ame]
No point in fighting unless you know the other person actually plans to hit you. Deal with it verbally, tell them to get fucked/to hit you then, and either they shut up, or they take a swing. At that point, it's now self defence, and it's both a reasonable reaction to hit them, and legally sound.
Trust me I know exactly what you mean. It's just that my original paragraph reads as if I thought I could do well against him because he was shorter then me. That's not the reason.
Like you said, the guys who are trained/can fight, don't have the childish demeanour that this guy did. At least the ones I know, don't. They would never go around threatening people, and in fact, are the first people to STOP a fight. They're generally really nice guys, and violence is always a last option, because they know that if they have to get involved, someone is going to be seriously hurt.
Now contrast that to this clown on that night. He was this young, cocky asshole who threatened us both, twice within 30 secs of speaking. He definitely does not fall in to the above situation.
Although I do understand (now) that had he been carrying a knife, the risk levels go way up. I'm assuming a fair fist fight, which, of course, is never the case with these young cocky assholes (they have 10 friends standing nearby, a bottle in his back pocket etc).
Either ways, I'm over it. I mostly talk my way out of any situation like this, but recently the stream of cocky assholes is really taking it's toll on me. This guy took the cake. But I'm happy realising his cockyness will soon evaporate when he gets his - and going by the way he acts, he can't be that away far from that moment.
Like someone here said, better to let the clowns fight, and focus energy on more meaningful things.
Thanks for your input people.
He might get his and he might not - but you have to understand he knew he wasn't going to get it from you.
I'm guessing you gave off a physically passive/aggressive vibe, where he sensed objection in you, but not a commitment of violence. Some guys with bully tendencies shine in such situations.
Maybe you should have been in emphatic peacemaker mode since it wasn't your girl involved. Emphatic peacemakers often get the job done and rarely get smacked. Plus they feel good about it the next day.
I've been on both ends of a punch, and to be honest, I don't enjoy either. I don't want to walk around with a 'commitment of violence'. At the same time, if someone takes it there, I'll deliver.
And I really do lead with the peacemaker role - I'm not a brawler at all. Even this time I made the peace, but I was just really annoyed at the way some people walk around.
Like I said anyways, this thread has given me loads of food for thought. With an attitude like that, inviting fights etc, I'm more sure then you that he'll get his soon.
I'm out people - thanks.
This thread is not about being a tough guy, but that I do honestly believe that everyone should now the basics of self defence. I have been in a couple of fights growing up and has been threathened many more times as a teenager, because unfortunately fighting was pretty common in that age, even in better neighborhoods. Thus, I learned how to adequately defend myself and since then, I have been in no fights for over 8 years.
I also have no ego when it comes to these things, allthough there are definitely many people particularly in places like Britain and Scandinavia who really tempt their luck because they have very poor manners and can get very in your face when drunk. It is because these little shits have not been properly raised and yes, have likely not learned that you better be able to cash the checks your mouth is writing.
I have been very tempted to bitch slap some of these morons, hence my recommendation of the open hand slap to diffuse a situation with a wannabe thugster.
Just understand, that if you don't know how to defend yourself and you don't know what it feels like to take a punch, then you are an open mark to the many psycopaths of this world.
Being aware of your surroundings and having some confidence in your fighting ability and strength may be a false security, but is also sends out signals which bullies - and most assailants are cowardly bullies - recognize. People who want to mug you or start shit, do it with those who are easy marks. So don't be an easy mark.
And that is all I have to say about that.
I also have no ego when it comes to these things, allthough there are definitely many people particularly in places like Britain and Scandinavia who really tempt their luck because they have very poor manners and can get very in your face when drunk. It is because these little shits have not been properly raised and yes, have likely not learned that you better be able to cash the checks your mouth is writing.
I have been very tempted to bitch slap some of these morons, hence my recommendation of the open hand slap to diffuse a situation with a wannabe thugster.
Just understand, that if you don't know how to defend yourself and you don't know what it feels like to take a punch, then you are an open mark to the many psycopaths of this world.
Being aware of your surroundings and having some confidence in your fighting ability and strength may be a false security, but is also sends out signals which bullies - and most assailants are cowardly bullies - recognize. People who want to mug you or start shit, do it with those who are easy marks. So don't be an easy mark.
And that is all I have to say about that.
If you led with the peacemaker role and there was no fight, no way would the incident smolder the next day. Because when you step up as peacemaker and there is no fight - you're validated.
You're even giving out a mixed vibe in this thread - you start it, announce you're bailing, then jump back into it - to bail again. C'mon man!
That guy recognized your indecision (ie. objection to instigator without commitment to violence) and leveraged it by being totally obnoxious.
He probably wouldn't have if he knew he'd have to roll around the ground and possibly eat a knuckle sandwich.
So fuck the dojo and that training shit. Got to throw fists: first, fast, and unrelenting. We're not boxing here, we're fighting. 100% offense. 100% results. I'll train you.
A few people have said it already, but OP you owned that shit. Nobody got hurt, praise the baby Jesus.
One thing I will say: the idea that men who know how to fight don't like to do so is totally contrary to my real life experience. It's EXACTLY the kind of scumbags who know how to fight that love a tear up, especially where beer is involved.. Obviously I'm this side of the pond where people aren't carrying lethal weapons to go to the shop, so there may be a cultural difference, but we do love a good beer and a scrap over here.
Having had my head kicked in before quite badly I'm not really in a position to give advice on badassery. What I will say though is GTFO or if you can't - 'go like fuck'. Weapons, testicles, throat etc. There is no 'fair game'. You don't know that you will walk or be carried away from that situation..
Peace x
One thing I will say: the idea that men who know how to fight don't like to do so is totally contrary to my real life experience. It's EXACTLY the kind of scumbags who know how to fight that love a tear up, especially where beer is involved.. Obviously I'm this side of the pond where people aren't carrying lethal weapons to go to the shop, so there may be a cultural difference, but we do love a good beer and a scrap over here.
Having had my head kicked in before quite badly I'm not really in a position to give advice on badassery. What I will say though is GTFO or if you can't - 'go like fuck'. Weapons, testicles, throat etc. There is no 'fair game'. You don't know that you will walk or be carried away from that situation..
Peace x
Never fight over a girl(women are capable of making their own decisions).
Nothing's more pathetic than a dude who picks a fight because he's a jealous little bitch.
Just walk away.
You guys should have just left the venue. There's nothing to gain by fighting him.
If a dude shows any signs of violence I walk away. Some men are extremely pathetic. Me and my friends have had dudes get aggresive and threaten to punch us because we're talking to their female friends(talk about being a friendzoned little bitch). In each case we just leave. Its not worth it to get beat because of a white knight/jealous friend situation.
Yah, you might carry a weapon and know how to handle it, but I hate gun owners who talk like you. That weapon will permanently change someone's life if you fire on them. It's a deadly defense instrument, not a fucking ego booster.
That's what I was always taught as a kid too. The irony being, the people constantly telling me that got into fights almost every weekend.
"Remember, it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight".
30 mins later, they're being hauled inside unconscious, blood everywhere. Fucken rednecks.