Got Cheap Clicks - Now What?

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montydad5000

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OK, after several months of testing out ringtones...yes ringtones...I have finally figured out how to get cheap clicks.

I am consistently getting clicks at around $0.10 a click on my ringtones ad.

At the moment, I'm just using an html redirect code to go straight to the offer. I've gotten about 50 clicks this morning with no conversions.

I'm sure that the "$9.99 per month" across the top of the offer page doesn't help. It's a cool one with different artists flashing up on the screen though so I thought it might work.

Now what? Custom landing page? "Select your carrier"?

I know it's a tough niche. I know it's hard to crack. That's why I'm doing it. I'm a persistent S.O.B. and I'm finally getting somewhere.

I've got my grandfather's funeral today so I won't be able to monitor this. It's definitely a 'mixed emotions' day. I'll have to take my bids way down until this afternoon.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

M
 


Additional info:

I'm using AdWords only...just Content Network. I'm linking to a CPA Empire offer from Flycell.

I've loaded up about 500 keywords in 5 separate adgroups of 100 related KW each.

I'm rotating 2 ads evenly (each is getting about 50% of the click-throughs...hey, maybe I wrote 2 great ads) and I'm using 'accelerated'.

Thx.
 
Sell the acct to me :p

Definitely make a landing page that presells the visitor, as they will be further along the puchasing process when they click through and will be more likely to ignore the $9.99/month image as they will be preoccupied with entering their cell/clicking through.
 
OK, well there is my weakness. I know some html but my landing page skills kind of suck.

There is an offer from Funtonia where you can direct link to a top ten list but it's kind of hokey looking.

I could some sort of mini-Wordpress site myself. Or I could....outsource, perhaps?

M
 
The problem is not on landing page. You are using content network, you can't expect the same conversion rate from search network
 
Why can't you just create a different version of whatever your landing page and ppc ads for your campaign are based on what everyone else is using? If you spent months on it, then you should already be familiar with the affiliates/advertisers who are all over the place. Chances are, they are doing well for themselves, so use what they use, because it's already been tested out and proven. Just add your own unique style to it. If your HTML skills are really that crappy (mine are!), then just hire one of the many LP designers this fine forum has in the Buy Sell Trade area, and pay them to do it for you. Make a few versions as well, just to mix it up a bit so you don't have to halt traffic and revenue and wait around.

Easy enough. If this takes you months to complete, then you need to find a different industry because you're working far too slowly.
 
montydad5000,

I have a few old ringtone landing pages you could have. I don't use them and never plan to, and never did. Shoot me a pm if you would like one.
 
Make a landing page, and have the keyword dynamically inserted on the page to create more relevancy, and more conversions. Private message me if you don't know how.
 
montydad5000 said:
Additional info:

I'm using AdWords only...just Content Network. I'm linking to a CPA Empire offer from Flycell.

I've loaded up about 500 keywords in 5 separate adgroups of 100 related KW each.

I'm rotating 2 ads evenly (each is getting about 50% of the click-throughs...hey, maybe I wrote 2 great ads) and I'm using 'accelerated'.

Thx.
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Why dont you switch to their ringtones.net offer? Flycell at $18 is worse than ringtones.net at $10.

such a noob move to be fixated on payout.
 
Thanks for the tips, guys.

@ JON,

Good advice. It's taken me this long because I've got some crazy ADD and I've been hopping from one tactic to the next (suicide, I know) and finally committed myself to figuring out this ringtones thing about a month ago.

Since September I have done AdSense arbitrage, got my acct banned, figured out a workaround, tried several different affiliate offers, tried PPI, tried blogging, tried blackhat, tried phpBay, tried article writing, tried a gambling website, a credit score website....basically a Jack of all Trades but master of none.

Then I came here and started reading the AM forum, back to front, and decided to pick ONE THING and stick with it.

Why ringtones? It's saturated right? Well, I keeping seeing these posts about $1,000 a day and $2,000 a day selling tones. I don't care how saturated it is...the fucking things must SELL. There's GOT to be some niche with these things that someone hasn't covered. Why test out new affiliate markets when there's one right in front of my nose that SELLS?

COPEAC has an awesome offer that goes right to the '24' ringtone. Tell me people wouldn't go for that? I'll figure this thing out.

@ MIKE,

Actually the CPA Empire offer only pays $11. It's about middle-of-the-road but the landing page didn't totally suck so I went with it. I'm still waiting to hear from your guys on the "Family Guy" thing so hopefully that works out too. I'd love to use COPEAC too.

@ The Rest,

Thanks for the offers. I will PM you.

I can't help but feeling that I am CLOSE.

M
 
The reason you're getting cheap clicks is that you're getting shitty traffic.

Well-converting traffic costs more, that's just a fact of life. Wouldn't you rather pay $1 a click for traffic that converts 1 in 10?
 
Thats only $5 per 50 clicks. You need to send more hits. You could still pull a good return

But, it is slightly shitty traffic. I don't personally advertise on the content network anymore. Thats more than likely why you are getting the hits for .10 a click. People try it, and fail, so no one advertises on your current string of keywrds.
 
montydad5000 said:
OK, after several months of testing out ringtones...yes ringtones...I have finally figured out how to get cheap clicks.
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are you actually tracking, for which exact searches you are getting those clicks? there is e.g. a huge difference in people looking for "download 24 ringtones" and people looking for "download FREE 24 ringtones".

in both cases a broad keyword like "24 ringtone" would get triggered, but obviously both do not convert at the same rate.

i assume, that you are not tracking on a keyword level, as you are going direct-to-offer but not via e.g. a .php trackingscript?

uh ok, wait. i just realized that you are doing advertisements in the content network, so you most likely would not get the search-term as there is none. is there any other way, to know, what triggered your ad in the content network then? it still might be the case, that your ad is shown for a very bad broad keyword combination.

that would probably be the info you would need to
 
Well-converting traffic costs more, that's just a fact of life. Wouldn't you rather pay $1 a click for traffic that converts 1 in 10?
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If my math is right, by paying $1 for 10% conversion traffic, you can only break even if the payout is only $10.

And with Adwords declining ads [mobile subscription services] (don't you guys have this problem?) and more offers disallowing the used of 'free, complimentary, bonus' .. things are becoming tougher than ever.
 
Azoogle has a optimized ringtone offer that converts pretty well on the content network.
 
prince said:
If my math is right, by paying $1 for 10% conversion traffic, you can only break even if the payout is only $10.

And with Adwords declining ads [mobile subscription services] (don't you guys have this problem?) and more offers disallowing the used of 'free, complimentary, bonus' .. things are becoming tougher than ever.
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I don't know about you, but I get $15 for every ringtone conversion. Azoogle's ringtones offers rock!
 
Yes, I actually just got on board with Azoogle today.

The CPA Empire offer was paying around $11, but this Azoogle one pays $10...still, it's a highly focused offer so I'm buzzing with it, so to speak.

The traffic isn't really that UN-targeted. Yes, it's on content network but they are clicking on an ad that says 'get this ringtone here'. Averaging about $0.15 per click now.

I am NOT bidding on any phrases containing the word ringtone, although that IS in the ad. Since I'm just on content network, it doesn't matter...and Google hasn't shot down my ad.

Didn't hear about them not allowing ringtone ads. Mine seems to be OK.

Only spent about $8 so far today with no conversion, BUT now I'm on to a more focused offer.

Stay tuned.
 
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