Good Ole Days

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g33ks

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Was just thinking back to 2 years ago when I first started rebills. I was in Boston with Copeac (Ryan Wilson & Jeff) at dinner for Aff Summit. At the time I was doing like 4000 dating leads a day which was big for dating at the time. Then at dinner another affiliate (gigidawg on wickedfire) started talking about how he did 100 sales of Green Tea the other day. I remember thinking..."no fucking way people are stupid enough to fall for that shit". I figured he was doing incent or something. I quickly tried a couple things on Google and it was a flop (back when google allowed this shit). Then one night when I was optimizing my sweet dating campaigns (lol) I spoke to a guy at Copeac (one of the sales guys) and he said he thinks bidding on recipe keywords might work. I tried that before bed and woke up in the morning, the campaign had kicked in and I had spend $100 and did $300 rev, I couldn't fucking beleive it.

That day I made a shitload of campaigns and eventually had rev up to $40,000 a day until Google slapped my ass. For the next couple of months I tried everything to beat Google but it was such a pain. I thought life was over, I had tasted the big money but could never get back at it because Google kept slapping my ass. Then one day I saw Larby on MSNBC.com, he bought that fucking homepage for 5 days straight. Having contacts at MSN I was able to get a couple other buys in and thats when I realized the real money was in buys! For the next 2 weeks I converted at $6-$12 a sale.

I don't think we will ever see something this big again, industry is in shambles and looks like we are heading back towards dating leads and zip submits!

So thanks to Alex gigidawg and the sales rep at Copeac...2 best pieces of advice I've ever been given.

Anyways just thinking bout the good ole days - lol.

Share your story as well.
 


adapt or die my friend. Something new will eventually be around that's going to be a wild west like it was then
 
papajohn56 said:
adapt or die my friend. Something new will eventually be around that's going to be a wild west like it was then
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im dead.

also, do we know who started the fake blog? who was the genius who came up with the idea to do a step 1 and step 2?

they are affiliate legends and deserve recognition!
 
Two years ago I was a seventeen year old who had no idea what internet marketing was. I happened upon the miracle of being accepted into Friend Finder, and I tried my hand at e-whoring.

Never seen so many penises in my life.

I'd rather forget the good old days and focus on the progress that I'm making, with some bigtime help from this forum.

Thanks, guys.

Edit: 300th post.

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g33ks said:
im dead.

also, do we know who started the fake blog? who was the genius who came up with the idea to do a step 1 and step 2?

they are affiliate legends and deserve recognition!
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Fake newspaper articles have been around for ages, but the blog, dunno. I always saw fake articles on the back page of the newspaper telling people to buy gold.
 
I know who came up with both. Both are people on this forum and one you still see his stuff everyday. It's no big well known members and funny enough they're arch enemies and hate each other. But for legality reasons I'm going to keep quiet with names.
 
in the industry at the moment the only short sightedness is the advertisers and the fact that no one with deep pockets is doing anything but trying to continue to hammer the round peg into the square hole.

we've had 18 months of large amount of data and many people finding what works at high dollar and high traffic levels, and large amounts of creativity and you're telling me as an industry we can't move into a more mainstream sector and crush it?

As a group majority you may be right, but this is where the opportunity lies. Take what we've learned and some of the chips people have stacked, and go disrupt some lucrative mainstream markets.

I've been waiting for this to happen over the last 9 months on the advertiser/network's end (mainly advertiser) however it appears that many are content moving back to just pushing data to others for $1.25.

Netflix was born out of the media recession that followed the .com bust as were several other powerhouses <Zappos> - media is still cheap and readily available, and now that large publishers have gotten much more pickey on what they will (or rather won't) run after the rebill fun of the last couple years you're competing with marketing departments instead of savvy affiliates. This would be bad if the economy supported idiotic $20 CPM branding plays. However it doesn't. So now you just need to beat some idiot making $80k/year running the advertising dept.

Easier than you may think, but of course requires something valuable on the part of advertisers (or your own product/service)
 
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Well let's see the trend.

Arbitrage, YPN, ringtones, IQ's, Rebills...there's a calm, there's a storm, there's storm...

I still believe internet commerce is in its early days and there are so many creative (and unethical, lol) people in this industry that there will always be a sweet spot. And once someone finds that sweetspot, the entire industry (which has grown) by the day will jump onto it....

Sure, the next gravy train that comes around won't last as long as acai did, or ringtones did, but that's not to say that there won't be gravy trains any more.
 
Time to start creating your own products. Yeah those old school rebills might be done, but you can still do it legit. And yeah, the conversions are lower, but if you own the offer your getting full commission and you can make a shitload on the backend.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
in the industry at the moment the only short sightedness is the advertisers and the fact that no one with deep pockets is doing anything but trying to continue to hammer the round peg into the square hole.

we've had 18 months of large amount of data and many people finding what works at high dollar and high traffic levels, and large amounts of creativity and you're telling me as an industry we can't move into a more mainstream sector and crush it?

As a group majority you may be right, but this is where the opportunity lies. Take what we've learned and some of the chips people have stacked, and go disrupt some lucrative mainstream markets.

I've been waiting for this to happen over the last 9 months on the advertiser/network's end (mainly advertiser) however it appears that many are content moving back to just pushing data to others for $1.25.

Netflix was born out of the media recession that followed the .com bust as were several other powerhouses <Zappos> - media is still cheap and readily available, and now that large publishers have gotten much more pickey on what they will (or rather won't) run after the rebill fun of the last couple years you're competing with marketing departments instead of savvy affiliates. This would be bad if the economy supported idiotic $20 CPM branding plays. However it doesn't. So now you just need to beat some idiot making $80k/year running the advertising dept.

Easier than you may think, but of course requires something valuable on the part of advertisers (or your own product/service)
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dude, i fully agree with you. I feel wickedfire should be an instrumental part of some sort of revolution within the industry (or at least for ourselves)... maybe a new subsection is due where at least the remaining smart people of this forum can brainstorm.
 
Danc1122 said:
Time to start creating your own products. Yeah those old school rebills might be done, but you can still do it legit. And yeah, the conversions are lower, but if you own the offer your getting full commission and you can make a shitload on the backend.
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Agreed with you. ForceFactor is a real life, perfect example of this, which is making a killing till this date.
 
g33ks said:
I spoke to a guy at Copeac (one of the sales guys) and he said he thinks bidding on recipe keywords might work.
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I was doing the exact same thing. Recipe keywords on google and was up to 500 sales a day at 100% roi. Ive never had anything like that since. Sucked when i got slapped.
 
smaxor said:
I know who came up with both. Both are people on this forum and one you still see his stuff everyday. It's no big well known members and funny enough they're arch enemies and hate each other. But for legality reasons I'm going to keep quiet with names.
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Names or it didn't happen.


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Forgive me I'm such an idiot. :disgust:
 
Since 2002, the number of internet users has grown with an average 163 million new users every year and it is still steadily climbing. And a lot of these people LOVE the convenience of finding/receiving/buying shit online.

According to the Nielsen ratings for 2009, over 875 Million consumers shopped online – an impressive increase of 40% in the last two years.

Opportunities come and go. Some are easy to spot while others are camouflaged as oversaturated failboats. I personally think we ain't seen nothing yet.
 
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Nothing is over. You make a ton of $, you go on "vacation" for awhile and relax and strengthen the brain cells and wait for the next round. Been like this forever, won't stop.
 
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