Global Warming: Man made or Nature's Cycle

What's causing global warming

  • We're doing it

    Votes: 38 34.5%
  • Nature's at it again

    Votes: 58 52.7%
  • I'm just here for the boob, but where they at?!

    Votes: 14 12.7%

  • Total voters
    110
  • Poll closed .


What I don't understand is why anyone would be against what proponents of global warming's legitimacy are calling for:

- Alternative, reusuable energy sources.
- Less dependence on oil.
- More oversight regarding pollution-heavy industries.
- Using more fuel-efficient transportation.
- Utilizing more public transportation, or car-pooling.
- Forgoing driving when you can telecommute.
- Living a healthier lifestyle in general.

I don't see any of these things as bad. So even if, for the sake of argument, global warming is a scam, why wouldn't you want to do any of the above ?

shuttup libtard! ;)

I'm a libtard too than, nice to meet you! I'm reading your replies, but I don't understand your position on this issue... Global warming for you is a myth?
 
Global cooling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol.

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lol wut?

talks about some debunked science myth:

This hypothesis had mixed support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles

"Currently, the concern that cooler temperatures would continue, and perhaps at a faster rate, has been observed to be incorrect by the IPCC.[7] More has to be learned about climate, but the growing records have shown that the cooling concerns of 1975 have not been borne out."
 
I'm a libtard too than, nice to meet you! I'm reading your replies, but I don't understand your position on this issue... Global warming for you is a myth?

Read my first post regarding the issue, that it's a natural cycle that is being effected by mankind. Also, read the link I posted in the follow-up post and you'll see my stance.

The libtard crack was completely sarcastic mockery. Continue on.
 
Can you seriously draw that conclusion from the text you quoted? If so, you've hold your breath underwater for too long...

umm... so what conclusions did you draw from the quoted text? That Global Cooling is a global phenomenon?

Those are just a couple of citations that point out that it's false. Read the whole Wikipedia article and you may draw the same conclusion.
 
umm... so what conclusions did you draw from the quoted text? That Global Cooling is a global phenomenon? If I'm not mistaken you're also the guy who said "Havana is in ruins". Flying too high?

Don't make assumptions. I just said you're stupid as the text you quoted don't "debunk" global cooling nor say it's a myth.

Also, Havana really is in ruins.
 
Don't make assumptions. I just said you're stupid as the text you quoted don't "debunk" global cooling nor say it's a myth.

Also, Havana really is in ruins.

Currently, the concern that cooler temperatures would continue, and perhaps at a faster rate, has been observed to be incorrect by the IPCC

I'll give you a hint: "The concern" = "Global Cooling" and "incorrect" = "false"

false [fɔːls]
adj 1. not in accordance with the truth or facts



do you need this translated to Portugese?

I removed that bit about Havana not to make you look retarded since several people apart from me said it's simply not true... Save up next time and stay in a better part of town.

Back to topic
 
I'll give you a hint: "The concern" = "Global Cooling" and "incorrect" = "false"

false [fɔːls]
adj 1. not in accordance with the truth or facts



do you need this translated to Portugese?

I removed that bit about Havana not to make you look retarded since several people apart from me said it's simply not true... Save up next time and stay in a better part of town.

Back to topic

Can you stop editing your posts 10 times so I can reply?
Anyway, I fell in the troll trap.

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I stayed in a 5* Hotel in Varadero. Probably for someone who lives in a slum, Havana is standard and acceptable, not for me.
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Now, back to topic.

The keywords in your quoted phrases are "Currently" and " More has to be learned about".

What seems to be true when we look at a particular small time frame, can be completely false if we look at the bigger picture. A few years time frame is not a significant nor reliable data sample to evaluate major climate shifts.

I drop out the university only a few credits away from a degree in Geological Engineering and was a Secretary and then the President of my University Earth Sciences Club. I know my paleoclimatology quite well. How about you?
 
Which could very well mean that you and a bunch of actual Geological engineers and paleoclimatologists could be wrong regarding this issue. As it is, I don't know why you two are going back and forth at all, when you simply could have followed the link:

Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation.

Currently, the concern that cooler temperatures would continue, and perhaps at a faster rate, has been observed to be incorrect by the IPCC.[7] More has to be learned about climate, but the growing records have shown that the cooling concerns of 1975 have not been borne out.
Seems to me that the more data being collected comes out about global cooling, the more that the conjecture regarding its validity is being proven incorrect.
 
Can you stop editing your posts 10 times so I can reply?
Anyway, I fell in the troll trap.

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I stayed in a 5* Hotel in Varadero. Probably for someone who lives in a slum, Havana is standard and acceptable, not for me.
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Now, back to topic.

The keywords in your quoted phrases are "Currently" and " More has to be learned about".

What seems to be true when we look at a particular small time frame, can be completely false if we look at the bigger picture. A few years time frame is not a significant nor reliable data sample to evaluate major climate shifts.

I drop out the university only a few credits away from a degree in Geological Engineering and was a Secretary and then the President of my University Earth Sciences Club. I know my paleoclimatology quite well. How about you?

Calling it a "myth" was incorrect, but IPCC does say it's currently false.

debunkedpast participle, past tense of de·bunk (Verb)
1. Expose the falseness or hollowness of (a myth, idea, or belief).
IPCC does not say the same thing about "global warming" so I fail to see the relevance of that link.

No, I didn't drop out of university. Just doing IM full time.
 
Back on track here; Davin's point below is one of the best stances for everyone to take. (And by everyone, I mean every elected official.)

It seems to me that all AGW "Libtards" are on the side of saving money, helping the environment, having cleaner cities, and producing cheap, clean, everlasting energy.

Meanwhile deniers have nothing good at all to offer on thier side; just Selfishness, greed, and a very bleak, dirty future. Any deniers want to step in here and tell us what we'll win if you are right? A few dollars saved on technological advancement?


- Alternative, reusuable energy sources.
- Less dependence on oil.
- More oversight regarding pollution-heavy industries.
- Using more fuel-efficient transportation.
- Utilizing more public transportation, or car-pooling.
- Forgoing driving when you can telecommute.
- Living a healthier lifestyle in general.

I don't see any of these things as bad. So even if, for the sake of argument, global warming is a scam, why wouldn't you want to do any of the above ?
 
Calling it a "myth" was incorrect, but IPCC does say it's currently false.

I don't deny it says practically that. A long stretch to saying "debunked myth", no?

I was really just exposing your poor reading compreension skills (or maybe the fact that you're seeing only what you want to see) and not making a case for (or against) global cooling as I only debate that kind of subjects offline.

No, I didn't drop out of university. Just doing IM full time.

And yet you can't see that you fell in a evangelist marketing trap...
 
I say 100% is caused by humans ... the more developed world, but the earth to experience pain.

still little awareness!!
 
Solar activity has died down, and this is one of the coldest winters in the northern hemisphere in recent history.

If global warming equals getting hotter and getting cooler ("climate change") then what would global cooling be?

global warming = average temperature of the whole globe (most of which is of course water) trending warmer over a statistically significant period of time

2010 is still on track to be the warmest on record according to NASA.