Glenn Beck fucking owned by Jon Stewart



Al jazeera is surprisingly refreshing to watch. If you ignore the bashing the Bush admin gave them that is.
They cover many different viewpoints. They don't bash anyone, they just report.
They even cover the Israeli side with a degree of fairness not seen on US news.
 
Too many people bitching about cable "news" these days. A couple yrs ago I cut off my cable service and I didn't even explode or anything.


Instead of bitching about the smoke and mirrors, I'd be interested in seeing some links to some real news sites, preferably from outside the U.S.


The Associated Press | The essential global news network

From their site:

02/16/2006


THE ASSOCIATED PRESS STATEMENT OF NEWS VALUES
AND PRINCIPLES

For more than a century and a half, men and women of The Associated Press have had the privilege of bringing truth to the world. They have gone to great lengths, overcome great obstacles – and, too often, made great and horrific sacrifices – to ensure that the news was reported quickly, accurately and honestly. Our efforts have been rewarded with trust: More people in more places get their news from the AP than from any other source.​
In the 21st century, that news is transmitted in more ways than ever before – in print, on the air and on the Web, with words, images, graphics, sounds and video. But always and in all media, we insist on the highest standards of integrity and ethical behavior when we gather and deliver the news.​
That means we abhor inaccuracies, carelessness, bias or distortions. It means we will not knowingly introduce false information into material intended for publication or broadcast; nor will we alter photo or image content. Quotations must be accurate, and precise.​
It means we always strive to identify all the sources of our information, shielding them with anonymity only when they insist upon it and when they provide vital information – not opinion or speculation; when there is no other way to obtain that information; and when we know the source is knowledgeable and reliable.

It means we don't plagiarize.

It means we avoid behavior or activities that create a conflict of interest and compromise our ability to report the news fairly and accurately, uninfluenced by any person or action.

It means we don't misidentify or misrepresent ourselves to get a story. When we seek an interview, we identify ourselves as AP journalists.

It means we don’t pay newsmakers for interviews, to take their photographs or to film or record them.

It means we must be fair. Whenever we portray someone in a negative light, we must make a real effort to obtain a response from that person. When mistakes are made, they must be corrected – fully, quickly and ungrudgingly.

And ultimately, it means it is the responsibility of every one of us to ensure that these standards are upheld. Any time a question is raised about any aspect of our work, it should be taken seriously.

"I have no thought of saying The Associated Press is perfect. The frailties of human nature attach to it," wrote Melville Stone, the great general manager of the AP. But he went on to say that "the thing it is striving for is a truthful, unbiased report of the world's happenings … ethical in the highest degree."

He wrote those words in 1914. They are true today.
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How well they are keeping to this is sometimes questionable, but it is where I get news when I want it. I also like watching the BBC and the China News Network on Verizon FIOS for some outside views.

Here's a site that I keep tabs on at least once a week:

thechinabusinessnetwork.com - Doing Business In China: News Information Podcasts Trade Shows Consulting China


 
You must not go to digg, reddit, DailyKos, Huffpo, or watch MSNBC, the Daily Show, etc much. Go to digg one day and check the frontpage for articles bashing someone on the right. Don't delude yourself into thinking people on the left don't do the exact same thing.

I said they do the exact same thing. I just doubt they do it in the millions of numbers and with the same ferver that the right does it.

I mean look at what's going on now and what went on with the campaign, the crazy right has their panties in a bunch and their mouths all frothy over whether the president is even an American, and whether or not Obama is a Muslim who wants to get government controlled health care so he can kill christian babies by funding and facilitating abortion. I know these people, my family is full of them. I flag the anti-obama shit they email me as spam.

Usually for the left to get this worked up it takes a war. Even though I support the war in Iraq and bombing the fuck out of the taliban in afghanistan, I understand the left getting emotional and heated about it. It's fucking war.

I think a lot of this has to do with people on the right just having more tribalistic tendencies, so the dialogue ineviatibly veers towards liberal bashing; It's us against them, they want to destroy us, their aspirations directly challenge and threaten our existence, etc. This sort of rhetoric is one that is inherently rebillable. If you can tune into people's sense of tribalism and use it to evoke existential fear, you'll have happy customers for quite a while.

I think the reason this doesn't work so well on the left is because the left are more full of individuals rather than members of tribes or a tribe. Maybe that's why the electoral blue/red map seems to correlate so heavily with urban vs rural areas. In the big city people are more individualized, that's why those experiments work in big cities where a person is planted and pretends to be hurt on the sidewalk or something and people just pass by as if they never saw it. In rural areas, the psychology is more about "us", because it can afford to be that way.

The reason fox does so well is not because they "pull it off" better. It's because the psychology of their viewers is more amenable to their message. I don't think lib outlets will ever do as well as the conservative ones because the sense of tribalism that fuels it is just not there to a necessary degree.

For libs it's particular issues that put the fire in their bellies, for conservatives, the mere existence of liberals seems to be enough.
 
What is probably the saddest thing about news in our country.

MSNBC = owned by far left liberals who spin news their way
FOX NEWS = owned by far right conservatives who spin news their way
Daily Show = news comedy show that sticks it to both sides
 
I stopped watching Stewart years ago once it became evident he was nothing more than a propaganda whore for the far-left Communists in the Democratic Party, but by all means, continue to ingest the lies if you so choose.


I stopped watching [Stewart|Hannity] years ago once it became evident he was nothing more than a propaganda whore for the [far-left|right-wing] [Communists|Fascists] in the [Democratic Party|Republican Party], but by all means, continue to ingest the lies if you so choose.

Pick your side, then shout down the other. Most of the statements made on this thread are totally interchangeable based on what side you are on just by swapping names/networks.
 
I said they do the exact same thing. I just doubt they do it in the millions of numbers and with the same ferver that the right does it.

I mean look at what's going on now and what went on with the campaign, the crazy right has their panties in a bunch and their mouths all frothy over whether the president is even an American, and whether or not Obama is a Muslim who wants to get government controlled health care so he can kill christian babies by funding and facilitating abortion. I know these people, my family is full of them. I flag the anti-obama shit they email me as spam.

Usually for the left to get this worked up it takes a war. Even though I support the war in Iraq and bombing the fuck out of the taliban in afghanistan, I understand the left getting emotional and heated about it. It's fucking war.

I think a lot of this has to do with people on the right just having more tribalistic tendencies, so the dialogue ineviatibly veers towards liberal bashing; It's us against them, they want to destroy us, their aspirations directly challenge and threaten our existence, etc. This sort of rhetoric is one that is inherently rebillable. If you can tune into people's sense of tribalism and use it to evoke existential fear, you'll have happy customers for quite a while.

I think the reason this doesn't work so well on the left is because the left are more full of individuals rather than members of tribes or a tribe. Maybe that's why the electoral blue/red map seems to correlate so heavily with urban vs rural areas. In the big city people are more individualized, that's why those experiments work in big cities where a person is planted and pretends to be hurt on the sidewalk or something and people just pass by as if they never saw it. In rural areas, the psychology is more about "us", because it can afford to be that way.

The reason fox does so well is not because they "pull it off" better. It's because the psychology of their viewers is more amenable to their message. I don't think lib outlets will ever do as well as the conservative ones because the sense of tribalism that fuels it is just not there to a necessary degree.

For libs it's particular issues that put the fire in their bellies, for conservatives, the mere existence of liberals seems to be enough.

this is probably one of the most elite/pretentious posts I've read yet. Calling people of the conservative ideology 'tribal', almost as if they're primitive or dumb, is ridiculous. The people are affected by the media, both sides. The far right media has just been more vehemently angry in the past, but the far left is catching up fast, so now you see angry liberalism rising. The trend of angry conservatism began in the 1980's when the Republican Party started bringing in a moralist contingency with the people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Roberts. You really want to blame someone for this anger? Blame fundamentalism - but don't call people of a certain ideology tribal or primitive.
 
this is probably one of the most elite/pretentious posts I've read yet. Calling people of the conservative ideology 'tribal', almost as if they're primitive or dumb, is ridiculous.

There's nothing primitive or dumb about wanting lower taxes, less regulation, etc(whether those particular things are right or wrong, they are part of a legitimate philosophy that has substantial basis for argument).

I'm not talking about the conservative philosophy. I'm talking about the "conservative" psychology that permeates throughout the so-called conservative base.

I'm talking about people who make it possible for Sarah Palin to even be relevant. The people who talk of death panels, obama being a non-american muslim, etc. These are not just a few fruitcakes on tv that were manufactured by the liberal jew media elite. My family is frought with these mentally vaccuous, fear driven idiots. If that's elitist, so be it.

Some people are just more evolved than others. It's just sad that the republican party has been hijacked by many of the less evolved ones. It's completely delegitimized all the things about the conservative philosophy that would otherwise be deemed legitimate.

The people are affected by the media, both sides. The far right media has just been more vehemently angry in the past, but the far left is catching up fast, so now you see angry liberalism rising.

Um, no. It's been dying down ever since Iraq has for the most part left the front page.
And yes, during the Bush years the democrats/libs were the retards. But like I said, it was on account of a war and not on account of Bush being suspiciously "different" than them.

The trend of angry conservatism began in the 1980's when the Republican Party started bringing in a moralist contingency with the people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Roberts.

It probably began before that, during the civil rights movement. Before the civil rights movement the south were mostly democrats.

You really want to blame someone for this anger? Blame fundamentalism - but don't call people of a certain ideology tribal or primitive.

So called conservatives are tribal and primitive. Notice how I said "so called"?
 
I would give Schiff my vote. He has something that many don't seem to have in politics...common sense. I am also a Ron Paul supporter for the most part but also supported a few conservative democrats with donations this past election so im all over the board.
 
Fox News at least figured out they need Hotties.

We Get the She-Him Maddow... Thanks for nothing MSNBC.
I love hot bitches as much as the next man, but if I wanna see boobies I'll go to a strip club, or browse the interwebs. This should just confirm that fox news sucks. They get hot chicks to go on the air rather than experts or members of the academic community. When I watch the news, I want to see people who know what the fuck they're talking about. While I'm on this subject, ESPN and other sports programs also piss me off how they'll have hot sluts on air rather than someone who knows about sports.

Why don't you go re-educate yourself on the differences between reporters and commentators and then come back here and rephrase your drivel. I'm sure once you understand the differences in the two, you will look at the "reporters" at PMSNBC and all the other sheep slaughtering state run media agencies in a whole new light.
OK, moron... There's a little rotating icon next to Glen Beck that says, "Fox News." This is misleading viewers into thinking they are watching actual news. And you wanna sit here and talk about semantics? It's nothing to do with news, just propaganda. That's my point.
 
It probably began before that, during the civil rights movement. Before the civil rights movement the south were mostly democrats.

I heavily disagree on that one. Martin Luther King Jr and most of the black activists were Republican. Republicans heavily fought for civil rights by less gov't intervention and removing restricting laws, rather than putting things like affirmative action in place
 
OK, moron... There's a little rotating icon next to Glen Beck that says, "Fox News." This is misleading viewers into thinking they are watching actual news. And you wanna sit here and talk about semantics? It's nothing to do with news, just propaganda. That's my point.

So go after Larry King and Nancy Grace on CNN, too.
 
I heavily disagree on that one. Martin Luther King Jr and most of the black activists were Republican. Republicans heavily fought for civil rights by less gov't intervention and removing restricting laws, rather than putting things like affirmative action in place

I'm not sure what you disagree with. It's just history.


Solid South - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most of the racist white people in the south pre 1960s were democrats. It's not a surprise that MLK Jr and other southern blacks were republicans.

But it was the civil rights act of 1964 which caused the most consternation and discontent in the south amongst whitie, which led to a fleeing from the democratic party and to the republican party.

Funnily enough, the stereotypes of the parties used to be just the opposite of what they are today. The republicans were the elitists and the democratic party were the nascar fans.

The south really hasn't given up their backwards, retarded thinking. And they are a stronghold for republicans now. Whoever depends on the south for votes has to pander to the evolutionarily challenged. Right now that's the republicans.
 
So go after Larry King and Nancy Grace on CNN, too.
Agreed! It's not just fox news, it's all the mainstream news outlets. CNN, MSNBC, Fox, they all suck. I only count on NPR and public television to provide me with actual news. I have my degree in radio, tv and film, so this is the shit i studied in school. I've seen countless inaccuracies in all the different news channels.
 
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