Gaming Facebook. This is on a whole new level

pstation said:
I'm not promoting any offers or anything. And i'm not requiring or even asking users to hit the like button here. I just merely setup the like button and facebook's open graph with an existing website I had.

The real amazing thing here is that whenever someone clicks "like", a fan page gets created on facebook that they essentially become a fan of. From there you can publish news stories that'll pop up on all of your fan's activity feeds. Imagine how powerful it is to stick a story in a million+ users's news feed every day? $$$

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Thanks for sharing, but let me ask a few more questions -

1) 32K daily likes out of how many daily visitors?
2) Are you tracking clicks back to your site from these likes (adding special tracking code to your "Like" links is easy)
3) What kind of demographic & content you have that picked up the use of "Like" so quickly?

I added "Like" buttons too, but the levels of sharing are not where I would like them to be.

Next, you are saying a fan page being created that you can publish to? Really? Just from a simple "Like", not full blown "Connect"? I do not think this is the case, but if I am wrong could you point me to the docs that explain how to do that. I believe you have to create a FB app to do that sort of thing.
 


pstation said:
The real amazing thing here is that whenever someone clicks "like", a fan page gets created on facebook that they essentially become a fan of.
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DKPMO said:
Next, you are saying a fan page being created that you can publish to? Really? Just from a simple "Like", not full blown "Connect"? I do not think this is the case, but if I am wrong could you point me to the docs that explain how to do that. I believe you have to create a FB app to do that sort of thing.
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That doesn't sound correct to me either, got an example of a generated fan page url?
 
DKPMO said:
Thanks for sharing, but let me ask a few more questions -

1) 32K daily likes out of how many daily visitors?
2) Are you tracking clicks back to your site from these likes (adding special tracking code to your "Like" links is easy)
3) What kind of demographic & content you have that picked up the use of "Like" so quickly?

I added "Like" buttons too, but the levels of sharing are not where I would like them to be.

Next, you are saying a fan page being created that you can publish to? Really? Just from a simple "Like", not full blown "Connect"? I do not think this is the case, but if I am wrong could you point me to the docs that explain how to do that. I believe you have to create a FB app to do that sort of thing.
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1) Our site gets about 60k uniques a day on avg. Most of the likes aren't even coming from our site. when someone searches for something on facebook, our pages come up and they like them there.

2) No special tracking at the moment. I can see from the referrer and query string facebook adds what came from fb.

3) Our demographic is mostly 13-19 US traffic based around music.

You have to implement open graph to have the fan page functionality.

Open Graph protocol - Facebook Developers

Once users have liked your page, you can publish stream updates to the users who have liked your page and get statistics about your pages just like you can with Facebook Pages. To administer your page, you need to associate it with your Facebook account...
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we went up to ~60k likes per day, and sort of plateaued out the past couple of days.

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here's something interesting I saw someone else doing that managed to grab a ton of likes: http://swww.slicehost.co.cc/facebook.html
probably a bit blackhat and might risk getting banned.
 
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I actually read that entire OP and now my head hurts. Yes, it is a game changer. Yes, you could exploit this to bank. But no, I don't think Facebook is going to overtake Google and become the new way that websites are found on the web. At least not for a long time. That would require a massive paradigm shift for every single user on the internet, and it's not going to come easily. 2010 will definitely be an interesting year though...
 
DemoSherbert said:
Thanks for the advice. Call me crazy but your name isn't Rob is it? I aren't sure if you remember me but I am almost positive we exchanged a couple messages sometime last year. I just remember contacting you because I lived in Mechanicsville. I told you about my business and you helped me out with Google. I took in a lot of what you said but I ended up losing about 30 grand (yea i know ... ouch) on online SEO working with the companies and such so I'm just a little cautious going with Google again as I had to restart my business after that blow. That's why I was in the market for some newer promotion ideas like Facebook.

By The Way, don't worry about the deal even though it was encouraged by you, I still should have done a little more research on my end too :updown:

Ok end of my personal rant!

Has anyone had this working? I am greatly interested in viral promoting through facebook!
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lol SEO if free you retard. Holy crap guy, I got some swamp land to sell ya.
 
Thanks for a solid case study. +rep is very well deserved here :) Here are some thoughts -

pstation said:
1) Our site gets about 60k uniques a day on avg. Most of the likes aren't even coming from our site. when someone searches for something on facebook, our pages come up and they like them there.
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That just goes to show why you have to learn new APIs in their entirety. I really skipped over the fact that you can target your pages to Facebook search.

pstation said:
2) No special tracking at the moment. I can see from the referrer and query string facebook adds what came from fb.
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What do you see in referrers? Does the bulk of traffic come from Facebook search pages? Or regular profiles / homepage?

pstation said:
3) Our demographic is mostly 13-19 US traffic based around music.
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That could explain your crazy rate of ~0.5 likes per visitor per day. I have a health site that gets solid organic search traffic but barely any likes with the button added.

pstation said:
You have to implement open graph to have the fan page functionality. Open Graph protocol - Facebook Developers

we went up to ~60k likes per day, and sort of plateaued out the past couple of days.
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There is my next project!

pstation said:
here's something interesting I saw someone else doing that managed to grab a ton of likes: http://swww.slicehost.co.cc/facebook.html
probably a bit blackhat and might risk getting banned.
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Nice find. I wonder if they are doing anything besides just putting up that page. Do you have any info? Where did that link come from?
 
what about adult content? what happens if you add a like button to porn or something similar? are they filitering it out
 
I've played around with hiding content a little but, but can't seem to get it do exactly what I want.

I basically want to have information on a facebook page be hidden unless you have liked that page (mostly for local search clients, this way you can have coupons and what not on their facebook page). I know it's possible because this page is doing.

If anybody can help me out, then I'd be very grateful and happy to throw some bones your way or help you out with any local search questions you have. Feel free to PM me if you don't want it public.
 
I've been using the Facebook Comments Social Plugin as seen on Comments - Facebook Developers, and it's been pretty buggy.

Sometimes the comments show fine, sometimes they don't show altogether, and sometimes the comments only show with "Facebook User" instead of their names captioned over the avatar.

Has anyone else experienced this?
 
Reading through the Developer TOS, I don't see how the "content held hostage" (requiring connect and like) violates any terms.

The sections I see relevant are :

You must not incentivize users to grant additional permissions or use Application Integration Points (by "Application Integration Point" we mean Application Info Section, Application tab, Feed, requests (including invites), Publisher, inbox attachments, Chat, Bookmarks, or any other feature of a user profile or Facebook communication channel in which or through which an application can provide, display, or deliver content directed at, on behalf of, or by permission of a user.).

You must not require users to grant additional permissions or add Application Integration Points, and must only request extended permissions at reasonable times when the user engages with features that would require the use.

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Like button and Like box plugin:
a. You must not place a Like button or Like box plugin in an advertisement.
b. You must not sell or purchase placement of a Like button or Like box plugin.
c. You must not incentivize users to Like any Page other than your own site or application, and any incentive you provide must be available to new and existing users who Like your Page.
d. You must not obscure elements of the Like button or Like box plugin.


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I don't believe connecting is considered additional permissions. Obviously you can require authentication for access / content. Also it appears you can incentivize likes provided its for your own site and its available for all users.

So how does requiring a connect and a like for a piece of software / ebook / membership / whatever violate any of these terms?
 
conv3rsion said:
Reading through the Developer TOS, I don't see how the "content held hostage" (requiring connect and like) violates any terms.

The sections I see relevant are :

You must not incentivize users to grant additional permissions or use Application Integration Points (by "Application Integration Point" we mean Application Info Section, Application tab, Feed, requests (including invites), Publisher, inbox attachments, Chat, Bookmarks, or any other feature of a user profile or Facebook communication channel in which or through which an application can provide, display, or deliver content directed at, on behalf of, or by permission of a user.).

You must not require users to grant additional permissions or add Application Integration Points, and must only request extended permissions at reasonable times when the user engages with features that would require the use.

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Like button and Like box plugin:
a. You must not place a Like button or Like box plugin in an advertisement.
b. You must not sell or purchase placement of a Like button or Like box plugin.
c. You must not incentivize users to Like any Page other than your own site or application, and any incentive you provide must be available to new and existing users who Like your Page.
d. You must not obscure elements of the Like button or Like box plugin.


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I don't believe connecting is considered additional permissions. Obviously you can require authentication for access / content. Also it appears you can incentivize likes provided its for your own site and its available for all users.

So how does requiring a connect and a like for a piece of software / ebook / membership / whatever violate any of these terms?
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I believe "content held hostage" rule is much broader and is intended to apply to the whole Facebook Platform, not just Likes.

The language you cite about "Application Integration Points" achieves pretty much the same goals/intent. It will be interpreted and/or modified as Facebook sees fit when they run into actual use cases they do not like. Facebook enforcement is not about "rule of law", it comes down to arbitrary decisions of individuals, all the way up to Zuckerberg if need be.

This is and will remain a cat-and-mouse game. Anything that users complain about will be banned from Platform - eventually.
 
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