This. False advertising has nothing to do with free speech, it's a type of fraud.
It's ridiculous how irrationally defensive you guys get when people point out these scams. But hey, cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
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This. False advertising has nothing to do with free speech, it's a type of fraud.
It's ridiculous how irrationally defensive you guys get when people point out these scams. But hey, cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
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I was jk PJ. I know the days of when every retard joe copycat could clone a rebill campaign and be an instant internet success guy are mostly over, and I can't say I'm sad about that. There is an obvious place for affiliation though, for diversity in what you can offer and upsell your customers and for additional growth as a marketing strategy. Many companies will be fine continuing to affiliate given they have some kind of worthwhile assets or technology that distinguishes them.
I didn't defend it - I stated a fact. Free speech is about protecting unpopular shit, like racism, not about protecting popular speech. Show me where the constitution authorizes the government to distinguish between commercial speech and free speech.
I'm not attacking freedom of speech. When a product cannot meet the claims that it makes, that is fraud. You can pitch whatever you want as long as you can back it up. You can't back up that Lisa actually tried a acai and colon combo losing 20 pounds in 4 weeks. That is an intentional deception made for financial gain, which is fraud. No one is oppressing you from making grand claims, but you have an contractual obligation to hold up your end of the bargain.
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this. 'fair and balanced' has got to be the most fraudulent tagline in the history of marketing
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messing with 'caveat emptor' creates a population that isn't used to doing any sort of research about the shit they buy. this means apple can manufacture their shit in a way that kills people (eg sets them on fire) and still over 90% of respondents can't name a single negative about them in a survey, and the ones that can complain about their pricing.
the trouble is all of these things *seem* like common sense, good ideas which will help people. unfortunately, the unintended consequences end up being far worse. as far as acai, call it a tax on stupidity.
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Who gave you the right to 'tax' the stupid against their own will? By your principal, thieves are just taxing those who are too lazy to buy a security system. Wouldn't the money go into other more benefiting products if stealing could be reduced? Wouldn't that $80 rebill cash be used for shit that actually works?
If apple actually set someone on fire with their product, and they intentionally misrepresented the safety of their product, they can also be sued. From some research it seems that people have had ipods overheating but unlike shitty rebills, no one has been damaged enough to find it worthwhile to sue them.
The problem with your logic is that you think fucking people over is a necessity to improve consumer awareness. But the problem is that these scams are why people need this type of consumer awareness. Obviously scams will always exist, but a reduction in scams will increase the willingness of consumers to purchase legitimate products.
Could one say then, that by this logic: No law ever made, applies to anyone, unless they signed a contract saying that it would apply to them?
Bollocks, I haven't seen actual history on the History Channel unless it's Presidents Day, Thanksgiving, or Christmas since the 90's.
You ready to start drinking this early in the day?
'Cause that's where this leads.
Yes, you have it right. And yes, if one accepts this line of thinking, it opens up a big can of worms.
i used the word tax figuratively. besides, it's not 'against their own will', no one forced them to buy that ridiculous acai shit and yet they did, in droves. every day, qvc and hsn sell a huge amount of near worthless crap to stupid people. the fool and his money are soon parted.
i was referring to a whole room full of workers being killed at foxconn while they were polishing ipad cases. they were sanding them by hand with no protection or ventilation until all the alluminium dust in the air ignited and exploded. apple could insist on minimally safe working conditions in its contractors' factories, but they don't because their customers don't pressure them to.
no, the reason we as a society need consumer awareness is so that companies can be properly incentivized to do the right thing by people voting with their dollars. consumer protection laws may have been defensible as a matter of practicality in an age when researching a product was difficult or impossible (basically a third party performing research on our behalf), but in the absence of an information deficit the unintended consequence of fostering consumer apathy makes this an overall liability, imo
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So I'm sure many of you got an email from P202Nana titled: "Dude! people are enraged about what you did". I knew what it was gonna be about before I opened it.
An interesting question is: why now? Nana did you just notice? LOL.
I think the answer is it's now because now there's a good chance of serious punishment (thanks to the FTC of course). That's the only reason. I remember back in the day (when acai just started getting big) when anyone who would even try to raise the question of ethics was laughed and insulted out of the room. Now it's "alrite" and everyone is acting like they're some wholesome responsible guardian of this industry. The new "in" thing. LOL.
And here's Nana's piece:
Come On! Is This Industry That Thoughtless and Short-Sighted?
An interesting question is: why now? Nana did you just notice? LOL.
I think the answer is it's now because now there's a good chance of serious punishment (thanks to the FTC of course). That's the only reason. I remember back in the day (when acai just started getting big) when anyone who would even try to raise the question of ethics was laughed and insulted out of the room. Now it's "alrite" and everyone is acting like they're some wholesome responsible guardian of this industry. The new "in" thing. LOL.
And here's Nana's piece:
Come On! Is This Industry That Thoughtless and Short-Sighted?