Fox News Lies Again...

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Fox News has very little news and they have admitted this before - Most of their big names and faces are OPINION PROGRAMS, not news.

At least thats what jon stewart told me
 


Those weren't failures, those were successes (health care reform still pending). Maybe failures to you since you don't agree with them, but successes to the administration.

How are they not failures?

He can't even bring the whole Dem party on board for his version of health care reform.

When do the new troops get to Afghanistan?

When do the troops come home from Iraq?

When does Gitmo Close again?

The only thing he has done is spend a ton of money that we don't have and to make the divide even larger between the countries citizens.

This is the same guy that wanted to collect the names of anyone speaking bad about health care reform.

The same guy that supported an organization that was going to help pimps and prosititutes set up shop - and refuses to speak out against them even after the shit was caught on tape.

The same guy that talked about "transparency" like he was actually going to do it...when does it start?

Even people in his own party are separating themselves from him because he is a socialist piece of shit.
 
Lots of stuff dude. Here's a few things off the top of my head:

- PASSING HEALTH CARE REFORM (not done yet, but it will pass)
- Ordering closure of Guantanamo
- Ceasing the insane bush interrogation practices
- Lifting restrictions on stem cell research
- Timetable for Iraq withdrawal
- Tens of thousands of new troops to Afghanistan (where we should have been all along)

1) Your right it hasn't passed and will end up a wattered down, useless, bill so that the dems and call victory
2) Gitmo is still open and will be for a while
3) Thats your opinion, I have been waterboarded and it's not that big of a deal. It is a good tool.
4) I don't give a fuck about stem cells
5) Bush set the timetable
6) He hasn't made a set decision yet. He is still "thinking" about it!

Obama is a joke and his demo. congress is a bunch of fuckin idiots and felons. Do yourself a favor and at least don't take up for BO. You will save face in the future by not taking up for his failure.
 
I am not so sure that healthcare reform will pass. The Blue Dog dems slipped in a rule that will severely restrict, if not eliminate, health insurers covering the cost of abortions (including in the event of medical necessity, not just voluntary ones). While this will help appease pro-life Blue Dogs and maybe a Republican or two, the conservative base will vote against it just to maintain the party line... and it could cost liberal / Pro-Choice Dems votes. Especially from very liberal districts.
 
I don't think that piece of shit health care bill floating around Washington is going to pass. It's stuffed with a bunch of bullshit. On top of that, the Dems are trying to ramrod their environmental legislation through. This will end up costing the Consumer an additional 5 grand a year (on average).

Good job Obummer! Your legislation will surely help America dig its way out of the recession.
 
I don't think that piece of shit health care bill floating around Washington is going to pass. It's stuffed with a bunch of bullshit. On top of that, the Dems are trying to ramrod their environmental legislation through. This will end up costing the Consumer an additional 5 grand a year (on average).

Good job Obummer! Your legislation will surely help America dig its way out of the recession.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Nobody thought they would get this far. If it does pass, America fundamentally changes, both economically and politically. Obama was schooled all his life in power acquisition strategies - you can bet that right now his singleminded focus is on getting this legislation passed and guaranteeing the Democrats a monopoly on power in America for the coming decades.
 
1) Your right it hasn't passed and will end up a wattered down, useless, bill so that the dems and call victory

It just passed the house, now to the senate: Historic healthcare overhaul passes House -- latimes.com and it will more than likely pass the senate, where democrats are the majority (only a small fraction of dem senators oppose it).

2) Gitmo is still open and will be for a while

I said he ordered the closing, not that it is already closed. The order was made to close 'within a year': Obama signs order to close Guantanamo Bay facility - CNN.com

3) Thats your opinion, I have been waterboarded and it's not that big of a deal. It is a good tool.

You don't understand the point I was trying to make. ADMINISTRATION SUCCESSES. NOT YOUR OPINION.

4) I don't give a fuck about stem cells

Okay?

5) Bush set the timetable

Actually, Obama set the timetable (08/2010 to be precise): Obama Sets Timetable for Iraq Withdrawal, Calling It Part of Broader Middle East Strategy - washingtonpost.com

6) He hasn't made a set decision yet. He is still "thinking" about it!

Seriously? I think you have your faux news stories mixed up with the real news: Obama approves Afghanistan troop increase - CNN.com
 
How could someone say they don't give a fuck about stem cells?

At the very least, you could care.

Either way, you'll get the damn treatment if research (under Obama's admin) finds something that you need in the future. (which sucks, because at this point you don't deserve it.)
 
They dont give a fuck about stem cells because he is waiting on God to cure the diseases and grow back people arms, and let people walk again.

And also waiting on God to give insurance to all the poor people so they can stop dying and stop going into debt.

Republicans are the most religious people but yet most evil , so funny to me.
 
It just passed the house, now to the senate: Historic healthcare overhaul passes House -- latimes.com and it will more than likely pass the senate, where democrats are the majority (only a small fraction of dem senators oppose it).
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/17/obama.troops/index.html

That is factually wrong. The Bluedog dems in the senate want to eliminate govt funded abortions, so they would vote for the bill in the senate. The Liberal Pro Abortion senators will not vote for the bill if they add the ammendment to NOT fund Abortions.

Therefore you can not say they have anything close to 60 votes. Lieberman is against the bill so thats 59, and they count 20 dems on each side of the Abortion issue. So they couldn't even use the nuclear option to pass with 51.
 
They dont give a fuck about stem cells because he is waiting on God to cure the diseases and grow back people arms, and let people walk again.

And also waiting on God to give insurance to all the poor people so they can stop dying and stop going into debt.

Republicans are the most religious people but yet most evil , so funny to me.

Isn't it ironic?
 
Obama-ites, please answer me this-How do you spend yourself out of debt? That is what Obama is trying to do. Why can't I do it? I really feel bad about leaving my new granddaughter saddled with so much debt. I certainly will not be around to pay it off.
 
Obama-ites, please answer me this-How do you spend yourself out of debt? That is what Obama is trying to do. Why can't I do it? I really feel bad about leaving my new granddaughter saddled with so much debt. I certainly will not be around to pay it off.

You just keep spending man, eventually it loops back around. JK. :)
 
I usually always counter.

oxymoron much?

Are you even talking about this thread though or my atheist music thread? I mean...they don't even have to enter the atheist thread. They can just stay out, simple. I only apply dashes of atheism into this thread when it's relevant. The only thing I post in my atheist thread is music (that you can choose not to listen to) and responses to theists that choose, on their own, to debate me. Other than that I just post music in that thread. (<--which is now dwindling)

I can give 2 shits less what religion (or lack thereof) a band embraces. Tool, NIN & Live are 3 of my favorites of all time ... to the best of my knowledge all 3 are atheist.

You do this in every thread you're involved in, including starting the fight in the one below. Here you're even called out by a fellow atheist.

Christians are shooting doctors in churches. (and have a history of doing so)

but to not regard radical islam as more dangerous than radical christianity is simply willful ignorance or a result of an unfounded bias against christianity(or an over-calibration of your fairness meter).

Well look up what "new atheists" are, you'll understand.

The new atheists members here you fucktard

Preaching to the choir is how you get the choir to sing....

Another English lesson ... "Preaching to the choir" is trying to make believers out of people who already believe. We (Wickedfire) hate people who shove religion down other people's throat which is why we (Wickedfire) hate you for doing it with atheism.

I really think you just need to get laid or get a hobby ... take your pick but it sounds like your mom might have beaten you with a cross one too many times.
 
That is factually wrong. The Bluedog dems in the senate want to eliminate govt funded abortions, so they would vote for the bill in the senate. The Liberal Pro Abortion senators will not vote for the bill if they add the ammendment to NOT fund Abortions.

Therefore you can not say they have anything close to 60 votes. Lieberman is against the bill so thats 59, and they count 20 dems on each side of the Abortion issue. So they couldn't even use the nuclear option to pass with 51.

Amendments may be made, however, health care reform is still going to pass. Even if that part is amended, the pro abortion senators won't pass up the bid to vote yay on a historic bill that they have been trying to pass for the past 60 years.
 
Amendments may be made, however, health care reform is still going to pass. Even if that part is amended, the pro abortion senators won't pass up the bid to vote yay on a historic bill that they have been trying to pass for the past 60 years.

Wow ! The ammendments will be put into this bill one way or another regarding Abortion. And that divide will cause this bill not to pass the senate.
Liberal senators want vote for it if abortion is not govt funded cause it will piss the libtards in their districts off, and the BlueDog dems want vote for it IF the govt funds abortions cause they will be lynhced in the their more conservative districts.

It will not pass the senate due to abortion. And if Pelosi would not have told the 40 bluedog dems in the house with NO GOVT Funded Abortions, she would have not gotten the votes to pass. But now you have liberal house members saying they will now not vote for the final bill in the house if the Govt Funded Abortions are not placed back in.

Its an Epic Fail