Failure & Solitude = Success?

zimok

zimok

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I want to take this thread and celebrate both, that failure and solitude are something to be proud of, more proud than falling on truth by mishap but by having persevered through your own will, having pieced together the gaps, gradually becoming an authority on the subject.

What do you guys think of both subjects, in which way you see failure & solitude on a personal level? A negative or positive thing?

Is your fear of failure so compelling that you push forward in order not to do so, or do you revel in failure as experience needed to get to where you want to be?

Do you seek wealth to fulfill yourself in a social manner? Is your happiness directly related to the imaginary materialistic goals brought forth by the equally imaginary system of money? In your solitude can you see the world as a positive system or is everyone peons and you're the king of rebills?

I'm just going to write a few of my thoughts on both... please share your own if you agree or disagree.

Failure : Why do people have such a negative perception of failure, without failure nothing would be discovered as it is the uncovering of what is, the dispelling of illusions one by one. One cannot fail if he is worried about what others think, so solitude(to a certain extent) is also needed.

The end prize of having looked at a subject in a different light and discovering its true meaning, from an external observant the person that discovered the meaning will be seen as a genius because they can't comprehend how someone who's not came to such a conclusion, but I propose that they merely had the courage to exhaust every other option and are left with one thing, the truth.

The truth can be many things, the right keyword, the perfect LP, e=mc2, a working lightbulb, or in the case of from James Dyson, "1979 to 1984 - Spends five years developing the cleaner, and builds 5,127 prototypes of the Dual Cyclone(tm) vacuum cleaner." 5,127 illusions dispelled, truth discovered and millions made.

Solitude : When you have company or distractions your thoughts are no longer your own, you can't stop but being in an unconscious character that you've been all your life. When you're on your own your thoughts are also your own, the imagination becomes limitless and if left concentrated on a subject it will also become limitless until it hits the boundary of truth. There are plenty of things that can be worked out as a team but I still believe the most efficient use of ones brain is while he's in solitude.

TLDR?: I usually don't try to write posts that require heavy introspection(e.g. LOL Video Thread) but I'm just going to put this out there, it's really amazing when plenty of intelligent people debate a subject that is so central to success in life, there's plenty of success on this board - this is why I celebrate anyone who wishes to divulge their opinions on the subject.

Thanks for your time!
 


My main goal in life right now is to get some loose strings tied up and move to a small town in the mountains and just work on a few online business projects I have in mind and just let my mind chill out. So I kinda dig the solitude thing. I've grown to want solitude more and more lately.
 
Everyone needs a break from Humanity... I like my Solitude.

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ive just been getting more and more bored of my home town. I want to get out of here. I dont feel like you need solitude to be successful, just to realize what situation your in and the will to change it.

Failure is definitely necessary though.
 
Just going to bump this up once, I enjoyed the talk I just found on youtube - a lot of his views are in alignment with what I was saying...

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlVtrAOtQe8]YouTube - In Praise of Failure[/ame]
 
zimok said:
Solitude : When you have company or distractions your thoughts are no longer your own, you can't stop but being in an unconscious character that you've been all your life. When you're on your own your thoughts are also your own, the imagination becomes limitless and if left concentrated on a subject it will also become limitless until it hits the boundary of truth. There are plenty of things that can be worked out as a team but I still believe the most efficient use of ones brain is while he's in solitude.
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Solitude is great, especially if it helps you focus. The problems is motivation, it's usually easier to push yourself when you're surrounded by others working on the same problem. As everything else in life, it comes down to balance.
 
Pull up a chair & sit the floor and I'll tell you a story you've heard before........

Dr. Robert Anthony wrote, "If you are not failing at least 50 times a day, you are NOT trying hard enough in life."

As far as being around people, like minded people in particular he said, "If you and a partner never disagree, realize that one of you does NOT need the other."


Failures have been a great foundation for "my" progress. The pain and frustration of failure not only dial in the mind's focus, but permanently imprint the lesson for future endeavors to be MORE successful with less wasted time and effort. In other words, failure is a KEY to future successes and economy of time, effort, & resources.


I too feel that solitude is a key. I have posted before that when I am deep into a project I will go for 36 hour stretches without sleep. This is because my mind is focused and gaining ground with each new sequential idea which gives me momentum that I do not want to have interrupted. I'm fortunate in that I can go for a week or two without extended outside interruptions if I so desire. I turn my phones off and ignore my door. I'll even go three or four days without checking my emails.


I get crap from my friends for it once in a while, but those that have known me for any length of time know that is how I am wired. Now, after an extended period of solitude I do take a good 3 or 4 days to just completely get away from my projects and relax with friends before checking back on them. I use sites like here and a few other places when I get too over whelmed with steady streams of ideas. While reading through the general posts I get to use a different part of my brain while my subconscious seems to somehow organize all my ideas by the time I get back to my work.

Surprisingly, I will often find things that are relevant to what I'm working on that give me another way to look at the line I'm thinking on while I'm out just doing some "Mental Cruising".


I never think of my prospects as being less than I am. They are vital to my way of making a living and I am glad they exist. I think that this also comes across in my copy, the same way that a smile can be heard over the phone. If I were to ever have negative thoughts about those that I market to I'm sure it would somehow show up in my work and affect my income.


Bad karma and bad business in my book to make fun of the people I market to. There is of course the occasional exception that must be acknowledged as an idiot just to keep the proper perspective on the rest of the population, but they are not as common as some may think.


As was stated above, balance is important. You need to KNOW when to be isolated and when to be gregarious for your own personality type in order to perform at "your" peak more often.


The same holds true for failure. There are unacceptable levels of failure when weighed against potential gains from the failing activity. Though with most endeavors in life there is actually an "EXPECTED" level of failure prior to success. Failure when utilized as another TOOL in your life can actually give you the fortitude needed for the long haul. Where as multiple relatively EASY early successes can set someone up for a HARD FALL further down the road to full success. Hell, I've seen outstanding early blooming prodigies fall by the wayside and then be over taken by the average but steadily improving performer.


After all of that being said, "I" have always enjoyed and excelled at individual sports and activities in my life. I am my own judge, critic, fan and friend. This is why I never cared what everyone else was doing or thought of what I was doing. I use my own measuring stick that I made many years ago for myself. It is a measure against were I was last year compared to where I am this year. Mentally, physically, and money wise I want to always be moving forward and in a better position than I was in the past. I've never felt the need to measure myself against someone else. Not even my own father.


I enjoy golf because I am playing against only myself. If I play the same course over and over I can accurately gauge whether my efforts are improving my performance.


The same holds true for any style of marketing I decide to use. I stick with a product and a market long enough to be able to measure my efforts. If everyone else is killing it and I'm barely in the black I do not get discouraged. I'll stick with it until I figure it out. If once I've figured it out I don't feel that it's worth my efforts based on my skill sets and enjoyment I'll move onto something else even if it's still a good market.


I need some challenge and want to be able to really get my head into it & enjoy it. Jobs are for making money doing something that is NOT enjoyable. There's no room for extended/ongoing boredom or frustration in my model for making money.


Zimok, I understand your points based on my personality, experience, and preferences.

I'll probably get flamed for my long assed post. But since I factored this in before posting I'll find humor in the flames should they appear. lulz​
 
amanda11 said:
You can always have solitude by living in your car/van for a week.
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Hey, it worked for Ron Rice, he just sold Hawaiian Tropic for 108 million 2 years ago.

I'd say that being alone in his car to think about all of his failures that got him there worked as a catalyst to get his business started and to continue growing it.
 
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