Ending the $25k Contest?

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nice post Jon, I personally can't wait to see the new sections and I hope they live up to the hype.
 


Thanks for that post Jon. nearly brought a tear to my eye. Just remember that you still have a lot of support. Prove the naysayers wrong. There are plenty of us that got your back.
 
I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing and no I'm not laughing at Jon nor am I trying to kiss any ass either.

I don't know but if your only intentions here was/is to try and win some contest I do not feel sorry for you at all. I don't know why but I just take them as perks and if for some chance I happen to ever win a contest that would be cool. I just won't loss my wad over something I never had to begin with.

Regardless if a contest inspired you to write some article or share some of your secrets you should have done it for the site/community first and without a blooding contest in mind.
 
DruSam said:
Thanks for that post Jon. nearly brought a tear to my eye. Just remember that you still have a lot of support. Prove the naysayers wrong. There are plenty of us that got your back.
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I'm not trying to pick a fight between me and members who think that I've failed with this place or who think that it's a bad idea. I'm a firm believer that after you realize you've made a mistake, you come right out and admit it, which I did in that previous post. I'm going to trust my gut on this, and the gut says, kill the contest, even if it brings in a negative response, because it's just not meant to be. Sort of a "cut your losses" approach. Because the resource section is going to be fucking kick ass compared to any contest I could ever roll out.
 
Xrproto said:
I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing and no I'm not laughing at Jon nor am I trying to kiss any ass either.

I don't know but if your only intentions here was/is to try and win some contest I do not feel sorry for you at all. I don't know why but I just take them as perks and if for some chance I happen to ever win a contest that would be cool. I just won't loss my wad over something I never had to begin with.

Regardless if a contest inspired you to write some article or share some of your secrets you should have done it for the site/community first and without a blooding contest in mind.
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Thank you. Finally someone gets it.

The contest for the $25k and for the articles was created so that this place could get more original content. After reviewing the whole contest model as an incentive, I realized that if you're here just to win contests, then I don't want you here at all. There are plenty of other forums that will take you in. Hell, if it's cash you're after, make a fucking ebook and charge for the info like all of those other assholes do (not all of them are assholes or bad, but 99% are).

If you add content here, you are doing so of your own free will from now on to contribute to the community as a whole. The more active participants a community has, the more alive it is, and the more new users it will generate.

I started in this industry when I was 14-15 years old. No one taught me. There were no real forums where we could read articles on how to do this or that, or which tactics work here or there. Everything we learned was completely new and nearly everything was untested too. Colleges don't teach this shit yet (I think they will someday), so communities and resources are our only outlet for learning. Why do you think sites that have large communities do so well in the long run? Because they have active users who constantly contribute information.

It's all about sharing information for free. If you joined here looking to make bank on some articles or for being active here, leave. Seriously. I don't want your business here. I want people that are here for the longrun. People with a good sense of humor, that just want to kick back and share ideas and content.

The contests are merely temporary perks, so instead of constantly relying on temporary perks, I figured, let's kill it off, and create a permanent perk.

You will need a certain amount of credibility and activity under your belt to access certain areas of the resource section. You will need to be active in participating in conversation and contributing content. You'll never have to spend any money, but because you participated and gave it your all for now defunct contests, your reward in the end will be much more beneficial I think. Instead of trying your hardest and losing a contest, now everyone has a much better shot, and there are no limits on who gets inside. Just meet the minimum requirements, and you're in! How fucking easy is that? That to me, also sounds like one hell of a great alternative to a contest where only a few people would benefit.
 
Jon, you can't please all people all the time. One of the reasons I am in this business is because I only have to please myself! You have already done more for the true members than anyone else online. I don't think I have been to shit point in 3 or 4 months and hardly at dp or earners since I found this place. Sure there are some worseless idiots here, (me included) but I think you would serve a larger market by ending the contest I say that cause it makes it easier for me to get access but maybe find the people that were doing the most for the contest and do something for them, send them a t shirt or give them 1 hour phone consult. If they complain however fuck em!
 
chrislingle said:
Jon, you can't please all people all the time. One of the reasons I am in this business is because I only have to please myself! You have already done more for the true members than anyone else online. I don't think I have been to shit point in 3 or 4 months and hardly at dp or earners since I found this place. Sure there are some worseless idiots here, (me included) but I think you would serve a larger market by ending the contest I say that cause it makes it easier for me to get access but maybe find the people that were doing the most for the contest and do something for them, send them a t shirt or give them 1 hour phone consult. If they complain however fuck em!
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Well, the design contests will still exist here, because they are minor contests, and are just plain funny.
 
I was picked up as a designer for this project and I have seen what is coming, let me just tell you that it is just as big if not bigger than what Jon makes it out to be.

Some seriously ground breaking ideas. When I'm done designing for it, it will for sure be the highlight of my portfolio.

Ending the contest sucks, especially for those who really got into it. All I can say is what was done, was done for the future of the forum. It's really going to take a direction that no other forum has ever gone, and it needs a lot of attention. Keep in mind that Jon isn't going to bank off of this, this is really for the community... no hidden agenda.

This is one of my favorite projects, and I can't wait for the response when it is launched!

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trigatch4 said:
Estimated Time of Arrival?
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Later this month - early October


There are a few stages that need to be done in different parts. Lots of design, development, and coding. All of it from scratch too.
 
I wanted to wait for more senior members to post and voice their opinions, so if you have something to add, please do so, negative or positive. Both are always accepted.
 
I personally think it's a good plan to give things away for free, as I think I said in a different thread. The sponsored contests really seem to be the way to go as well, so I think it's a win win.

But I'm not someone who attempted the 25k contest, I suppose I might feel differently if I had.
 
I have a bias opinion.

I would loved to have won the 25k contest but am more of a newb so have asked more questions than I have answers. Personally, I think this informational area you're speaking of is an amazing idea that could, if it's what it's touted to be, revolutionize the sharing of information and resources for internet marketers and entrepreneurs.

On the same token, those who were seriously devout to winning the 25k contest have to be dissappointed in the least. They contributed valuable content that took hard work and time to prepare. Although you're now spreading the wealth evenly, the possibility of getting their "unfair share" is the motivation behind a contest of this magnitude.

I'm sure many of the top article posters in this contest (me not being one of them) are distraught they recieve no compensation (above and beyond other forum members). I also doubt they'll voice their opinion for fear of being called out as selfish WFers who just want the money. But that's what we're all here for in the long run... the money.

I say hell yeah, this area is going to be fucking amazing... and Jon you're the man for putting it together. I also think the top performers should get some type of door prize to reward them for their efforts. Why? 2 reasons. They were promised compensation and they deserve something. But they deserve something because they have contributed to the growth and value of this forum for their efforts. It's not as if they won a contest for posting "the funniest picture".

In summary, hooray for the premium area! (and give some door prizes to top contestants... because they earned it)
 
trigatch4 said:
On the same token, those who were seriously devout to winning the 25k contest have to be dissappointed in the least. They contributed valuable content that took hard work and time to prepare. Although you're now spreading the wealth evenly, the possibility of getting their "unfair share" is the motivation behind a contest of this magnitude.
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Was there really a lot of people participating anyway?

I forgot about it, I thought people were just genuinely interested in helping each other :485:
 
I say dump it. short simple and to the point.

BTW - you all are worseless bastards :)
 
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