Down the Nung River: another IM diary

Myler

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Apr 25, 2009
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The horror. The horrah. Another diary, another twat trying to ammuse the WF gaylords with his mumbling stumbling efforts to get money for nothing, clicks for free (c). I won't update this thread with mundane daily shit, I'll just log something topical and semi-important and see what kind of mockery you guys make out of it, after which I'll try to adjust accordingly.

Little introduction, to make this a bit more personal. I'm a Euro peasant who had couple of entrepreneurial efforts in his life, offline, each time ended up profitable yet always caved in to his inner bitch and went working for the man because everyone else did. I've spent my past 5 years working for one specific cunt who shafted my paperwork, and now because of that, every time I apply for a job I get asked questions that shouldn't be asked. But that's TL;DR story and it doesn't really matter here.

Recently I got picked up by this company that I really want to work for, UI/UX design is what I enjoy doing and I figured working with other creative folks won't hurt my career, I want to work in that kind of environment, for a while at least. But I have to do the "trial period" first, one month trial, and then 3 months probation, some shit like that. Fuckin pain in the ass. All of those things got me to think how dumb I am for always trying to put money into other people's pocket and how I'm scared to go out on a limb for myself.

That being said, my goal is to go down the Nung River of IM and see how far I can go. Since I'm living in a semi-Euro shithole-land, my last salary was $45 a day. So to keep things realistic, my first goal is to reach that level, $45 a day. Also, the bottom line is, I don't want to be a fucking errand boy for the rest of my life.

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Nov.18th.2014.

WHAT: website for affiliate sales, probably Amazon. With this site I think I'll pick up the ropes of how things work and I'll be able to build a long haul authority site later. But I won't do 2 things at once, I have enough problems with my AD4K as it is.

HOW: I saw some case studies where people made set-and-forget type of blogs with Amazon links, they all look spammy as hell to me but I guess the clicks roll in and sales get made, that's all that counts. I want to make something that will use Amazon affiliate links but make it look at least somewhat clean, legit and branded. I need to decide on the niche now.

I'm currently using demo Market Samurai to see what kind of niche I should go for. I'm down to single digits, only couple of niche candidates left, weeding out and should do in the next couple of days. I may be too picky about it, oh well.

When I choose the niche, that's my Nang river and I'm not going back, so I want to choose carefully.

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QUESTIONS: since I don't have the answers, I ain't got the answers, I'll ask whatever I feel like asking regarding this topic. Feel free to help if you want to.

1. Looking in SEO competition tab for a certain keyword in Market Samurai, matrix looks greenish, but 7 out of 10 results are big name websites, like global multinational companies. Other results are reddit and famous fashion magazines. Is this a red flag? My demented logic tells me that these big brands are like behemoths, huge but slow and lazy and all over the place, niche-wise. But then again, I do talk out of my ass on this subject.

2. Do you think that I should choose my keywords that ask a question rather than ones that just describe the product?

Example: Faggette car wax. Is it better to go for "how to apply faggette car wax" keyword, or target the much broader "Faggette car wax" kw? My current opinion...it seems more logical to me to target the question, so when someone asks google for that question, my web will be the answer, and I'll have a visitor that has the "I need to find a solution" mindset. Which is good for selling...right? Or am I missing the point?

3. Is there an example of someone dodging the Amazon / Clickbank route, cutting the middleman? For example, have any of WF'ers broke deals with manufacturers and sold their products straight from the factory through their websites? Just curious. That seems like a lucrative thing to do once you have clicks coming in.

Too many cooks, that is all.

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QUESTION TIME #2

I'm digging and searching on one specific niche subject that I find interesting. Using Keyword planner, I picked out around 50 keywords that get 50+ searches a month, low or mid comp. and I pasted them in a txt file.

Should I try to sneak all of those keywords in every single post on my website?
 
Something in your post resonated with me so here's a couple of thoughts for you:

1) "Set-and-forget", "passive income" are mythical catchphrases created to sell WSOs and flip sites. Everything needs work and constant tweaking or it dries out. The right attitude is to look for a project you'll love that will suck you in and keep you working full-time until you buy an island,

so

2) Dream bigger. Setting out to build a "niche site" to earn 4% commission puts you behind both a) ramen-eating entrepreneurs working on their dream startups and b) spammers who have automated this niche shit 1000 times already. It might be useful to learn the ropes, but you will need to divert from this path fast.

3) After you "choose the niche" you are SO going to turn back and change it several times, don't delude yourself. You can't just select your path once and forever, you need to see opening opportunities and pursue them. You also can't know much about a niche until you really enter it, no Bazaar Kamikaze software will help you here.

4) "How to apply XXX car wax" is not a selling keyword. "XXX car wax on sale Boulder, CO" has a better chance of bringing you that 4% commission once a month, that is if you squeeze your site above the actual Amazon's listing. Oh wait, there's an autoblog from Russia with love with automatically generated pages there already.

5) Keyword tools' numbers are often off. Only once you hit the top you can say how much volume they got. And, sigh, don't put them all in one post. If you really want to pursue the "niche site" thing you'd want to create a post for each of those keywords, so they are in posts' titles. But then again this will become a crap site that even wasn't there first.

What you are trying to do is not necessarily a 100% bad idea. I'm sure you can put a twist on this thing, but check my #1 and #2 points above and try to get ahead of this.

On an unrelated note, how much do 2009 accounts sell for now anyway? :)

Edit: Genius tag right there!
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Haha yes, well this is the dash cam ain't it :D 2009 accounts are for sale? Fuck me, where do I sell? Naw I'm kidding, I wouldn't give up my WF membership despite the dickrolls being exitable for long time now...

On topic. Really thankful for the advice. I'm down to 3-4 niches that I'm trying to analyze on Market Samurai and KW Tool and every time I go to check some specific kw in google, the non-official, non-corporate results are always some shitty designed blogs with lame reviews and Amazon links at the bottom. But I guess it works for them since they rank that well?

Now I've been looking at Pinch of Yum website where they publish their income and all, and it does correlate with what you say - go with something you're familiar with and go in in in in and in. They banked 30K in august, all from making cookies and lasagne or whatever. Not bad.

But then I hear the voices of all those Shark Tank characters who say that you should go after money, not your passion or hobby. Because you are in the business of catering to your market, not your butterflies. I do have a hobby but those things are not on Amazon anymore since they're retro vintage type of novelties. How the hell can I make money if I make a "definite" website for that kind of things. People will go on eBay to buy those anyway.

I understand the "dream bigger" concept. I often tell myself that I should shoot for the stars because I'll definitely miss but at least there's a chance of hitting something in front of me...where if I shoot "realistically" I'll probably just shoot myself in the foot.

I don't plan on building a set and forget website, I want to make a website that can provide value and bring me steady money in return. I can outsource articles so I don't have to waste time researching on a subject I'm not necessarily familiar with.
 
every time I go to check some specific kw in google, the non-official, non-corporate results are always some shitty designed blogs with lame reviews and Amazon links at the bottom. But I guess it works for them since they rank that well?

How can you guess? Maybe they don't make any money because of that? Or maybe they are a part of a 1000-domain network and it took 4 minutes to generate each site, and each of them now brings $6 per month? Is this something you want to be competing with spending all your free time?

it does correlate with what you say - go with something you're familiar with and go in in in in and in.

I never wrote you should go for your passion or try to monetize your hobby, please don't invent stuff. I wrote that you should be flexible and have a better business model than Amazon affiliate program on an informational website, or at least aim to develop that better model fast and have it as your top priority.

The fact that you are not "following the passion" does not automatically mean you are "following the money".
 
True. OK so I'm obviously thinking inside a very narrow box here. All I see is making money on Amazon or Clickbank clicks and commissions. Aside from running a membership site, selling your own products (ebook ftw) ad placement and commission sales...are there any other ways to monetize?