Digital camera suggestions?

mikeshinobi

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I'm interested in getting good quality digital camera - not the best of the best, but not another one of the common crap ones I've had in the past. The problem is that other than that vague description, I really don't know what I'm looking for, and I'd rather not buy blindly based on "oh I know this brand and these numbers look good I guess".

Anyone have a good one they would recommend, or that can at least give me an idea of things I should keep an eye out for (e.g. "make sure it has 12 megapixels")?
 


Price range and what are you looking to use it for ie. product photos, family pics, nature pics?

Well I'd like to be able to use it for everything, but I'm mainly looking to invest in one to take product photos (they're sort of product photos, anyway).

And I guess I'd say my budget is up to $500 as long as it's worth it to spend that much. For instance if the difference between a $300 and $500 camera is small I'd rather just go with the $300.
 
Alright now that I'm looking around I see that $500 is actually a pretty small budget when it comes to cameras. Jesus. All the cameras I had in the past were like $100 so I figured $500 would be more than enough.

Well, fuck. Just forget my budget I said before, and suggest anything regardless of price.
 
I would look at a Sony A100 for a cheap way to get into it with decent quality while you learn a bit (you have a screen for playback and info, but picture taking is old school - through the viewfinder). Sony bought out the Minolta lens patents so you can pick up some legacy Minolta AF lenses with decent glass for a song. For more features, the A700 is close to professional level and has come down in price to where you can get that model and a few decent lenses and be right at you price point.
 
Buy a phone with a good camera and you're set. I saw a comparison of a DSLR vs some nokia lumia and half the pics the dslr won and half the cellphone camera. Phone cameras have become really really good in recent years - and like dmnepc said, it's always with you when you need to snap a pic
 
What are you going to use this for?
Taking pix of products?
Taking pix of nude men?
Taking pix of sports?
Taking pix of the family?
ect.

Its hard to make a suggestion w/o understanding the purpose. Are you hoping to sell your images? Or just have a camera for whatever pops up?
 
I've had a canon 40d for years and love it. But the lenses are more important than the body.

If you just want a point and shoot there are a lot of good ones. The SLR takes a while to learn to the point it benefits you more than a point and click.

Sensor is more important than megapixels. So is the glass the lens is made from. Megapixel only references the size of the image, width and height, nothing to do with resolution or details in the image. Don't get sold on "optical zoom" either, another marketing ploy.

For a point and click the canon powershots do decent video as well and are cheap. Here's a $150 powershot pic I snapped of my dog:
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$500 is more than enough to get a great point and shoot camera. As has been said, the Panasonic Lumix cameras are quite nice. I'm also quite partial to Canon's cameras. I have had a few of the S series (Elph in the US) and they take great pics. I also have a 400D SLR with some L series glass, but that's a bit more serious, not very portable, and $1500+.

Some things to keep in mind when looking at a camera:
- Make sure it has at least a 24mm or smaller wide angle for close up and indoor sots. This is far more important and useful than how powerful the zoom is, although there are some decent cameras out there that do 24mm or less up to 300-400mm (like 16-24x optical zoom)
- Look at the ISO capabilities for taking low light images without using the flash
- Does it do RAW format or just JPGs? RAW gives you an lossless uncompressed image that is more versatile for editing/correcting the image.

Remember, for specs and reviews on almost every camera go to Digital Photography Review.
 
Forgot to mention, if you want to shoot product images and such you should make sure whatever you buy has a macro setting so you can take close ups like:


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And if you want to try your hand at HDR photography you need something that shoots raw and gives you control over the exposure settings.
 
You can browse the Flickr "camera finder" and drill down by the most popular types of cameras today and see actual examples of the quality of photos taken -- everything from phone cameras to point-n-shoot to SLR. Literally millions of photos to compare.

Flickr: Camera Finder

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Megapixel only references the size of the image, width and height, nothing to do with resolution or details in the image.

That's not really an accurate statement. Of course the number of megapixels has everything to do with the resolution and details in an image. A 12 MP image has higher resolution and more details than an 8 MP. A 20 MP image more than 16 MP. The more MP, the larger the image can be printed without loss of quality at at least 300 dpi. This is why all professional DSLRs have 20-30 MP these days. National Geographic and AP photographers need the details to be able to print poster sized images. The downside with loads of megapixels in a tiny sensor in a lot of point and shoots is that they capture less light and produce noisier images which is why having more megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better photos, just higher resolution ones.
 
I'm preparing myself slowly to get into photography as well, specifically for photo-manipulation (which is taking multiple photos and manipulating them to create a single photo).

Considering a Canon 5D Mark II (though quite a bit expensive, $3k with the camera body and a good lens). I'd only ever be able to justify that purchase (along with some lighting) if I had a solid plan for making the $ back by using it professionally.

Some photo-manips with footage shot from that cam:
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One I did with my daughter, but the pics of her and the deer are from my cell phone cam, stuff like the grass pieces/rock are stock.

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That's not really an accurate statement. Of course the number of megapixels has everything to do with the resolution and details in an image. A 12 MP image has higher resolution and more details than an 8 MP. A 20 MP image more than 16 MP. The more MP, the larger the image can be printed without loss of quality at at least 300 dpi. This is why all professional DSLRs have 20-30 MP these days. National Geographic and AP photographers need the details to be able to print poster sized images. The downside with loads of megapixels in a tiny sensor in a lot of point and shoots is that they capture less light and produce noisier images which is why having more megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better photos, just higher resolution ones.

If you have the same sensor on an 8mp and 12mp doesn't mean the 12mp is going to take better pics I guess is my only argument. I just think there's too much emphasis from sales people on megapixel, nowadays every new camera is fine megapixel-wise for me.

Dunno I'm fine with 12mp, which just about every camera nowadays has, if I buy another camera it'll be a used 5d mark II.

There is also a software for converting Tiff images to giant billboard sized images that aren't all grainy. I went on a workshop with some "pro" photographers and he had one image blown up to 7' wide by 5' tall from a 12mp camera and it wasn't all grainy unless you put your face right up 2" from it.

The guy was also saying anything over 8mp was fine for what he would do in photoshop. Some of the images get up to 1 gig after adding/blending dozens of layers to bring out details, unsharp mask, etc

I was shooting with my friend who has the 5d mark II and he could drop the ISO down to 50 well after sunset and take long exposures with literally no noise.

@dreamache sick artwork, the 5d mark II is so fucking badass for the price, I'd get a used one if I had the money.

I made a collage of photos I shot myself but nothing like your stuff:
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I've messed with Nikon and Canon DSLR's and reverted back to the Rebel (better blacks and overall shot imo).

If you can score a used Canon 7D, 400D, 5D etc. for < $500 you're laughing. They are big but you'll be ready to shoot anything and have the ability to change lenses if/when you like.