COPEAC stopped paying?

the FTC is or will be taking all of their cash.

Anyone who ran traffic after that lawsuit is an idiot.

oh and B of A is suing them too for almost a mil cause they are not paying their loan.
 


Where o' where is Michael? He's probably busy selling his worthless affiliate list.

No one from copeac is jumping in, this is a sure sign that they don't care anymore... The ship is sinking.

Too bad, my $1500 is gone with them. (They owe me $1500 after I double checked. Shit, can get an 27" iMac with that money)
 
What's up with Clickbooth switching pubs to Net 30? One of my pubs is telling me they got swtiched. Anyone else had this happen?

On a serious note, these are two networks that I ran a lot of volume through back in the day when I was a publisher. Back then, I never really thought about how dependent I was on the networks that had "my" money. The whole poker thing is similar... Full Tilt still has a nice chunk of my change that I will probably never see and never even really thought I would have to worry about. I definitely feel for all of the pubs that got screwed by both of these situations.

The one pub that told me about CB, was expecting his money on the 15th and had his cash flow built around it. Definitely puts his business in a tough spot, especially because he is just starting out. I'm not going to complain too much, he's now sending a lot more traffic through me and getting paid weekly.

I think that Copeac got screwed by their situation and that at least in the beginning Mike did everything he could to take care of his partners and is probably still doing everything he can. With a lot of the big, older networks having issues it's like the end of an era.
 
Don't know if they stopped paying, because I'm waiting on first payment after switching some of my campaigns over from epic as a test. Was planning on moving the whole mess over to them when they suddenly stopped answering emails, stopped being available on IM, and not answering phones. It's been 10 days now. So i'm gonna assume I'm out the 1.5k I produced. Really sucks that the supposed reliable networks are unraveling like this.
 
If you guys were smart, you would have given COPEAC the first month's traffic as a free trial and then hidden you rebiller terms in the fine print. Mike would think he was getting free traffic from you...but you could hit his credit card for $89.99 a month until he figured out how to cancel. It works better if you sign-up as Oprah or Dr. Oz on your affiliate application.
 
We've been in business close to 4 years. I've Been in the business 7 years.

We still pay weekly.

Don't take credit risks we can't pay on if the merchant doesn't pay their bill. That's part of the credit equation we work on.

Always have paid on time.

Never short paid or missed a payment.

Have paid out of my pocket on millions I didn't get paid on.

And will always pay.

Feel free to ask anyone.
 
One Question Smax..

Considering that "Every CPA Network" allowed Flogs, and Fake News landers and "Every CPA Network" had ACAI and Colon Rebill, aren't all Networks at the risk of FTC Ban Hammer at some point or the other?

Some networks are still asking Pubs to use Traditional Bizopp Landers, traditional meaning news9week.com

I am really not sure why FTC won't touch some Networks..
Your thoughts Smax??

The Accusations against IMM seem like something that can copy paste and use against all networks.. ie unless, IMM wins the lawsuit..
 
One Question Smax..

Considering that "Every CPA Network" allowed Flogs, and Fake News landers and "Every CPA Network" had ACAI and Colon Rebill, aren't all Networks at the risk of FTC Ban Hammer at some point or the other?

Some networks are still asking Pubs to use Traditional Bizopp Landers, traditional meaning news9week.com

I am really not sure why FTC won't touch some Networks..
Your thoughts Smax??

The Accusations against IMM seem like something that can copy paste and use against all networks.. ie unless, IMM wins the lawsuit..

I'm not huge in the rebill scene, but this is what I know. Lots of networks till this day still allow flog or farticle leads, but they don't want you as a pub telling them it's that. If you do run your traffic through those landers, keep it to yourself because your network doesn't want to find out, and acknowledge it. If they acknowledge it, accept it, they put themselves in the shoe's of COPEAC.

What I saw COPEAC doing was suggesting pubs setup flogs/farticles, providing those actual landers and suggesting the traffic sources to run them on. They completely knew how their pubs ran the offers, and helped them to commit the "deception". Them taking such an open stance on rebills fucked them over with the FTC. Another simple case of greed.

If anything I said above is wrong, I would love anyone with better intake on rebills to correct me.
 
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Any legitimate and smart network knows what happened and how to prevent it from happening to them, if they were not careful before this happened, they are now (Frankly if it took something like this to make them aware of what is not smart to do you should probably get out anyway). Affiliates agree not to run these kinds of illegal pages when they sign up to networks.

'Fake news landers? We don't allow those on our network and never have, if you have any record of an illegal page that links back to one of our affiliates on our network we'd be glad to terminate them and give you their full information. Our terms and conditions strictly prohibit our affiliates from using these kinds of pages and we are against this just as much as you are!'
 
One Question Smax..

Considering that "Every CPA Network" allowed Flogs, and Fake News landers and "Every CPA Network" had ACAI and Colon Rebill, aren't all Networks at the risk of FTC Ban Hammer at some point or the other?

Some networks are still asking Pubs to use Traditional Bizopp Landers, traditional meaning news9week.com

I am really not sure why FTC won't touch some Networks..
Your thoughts Smax??

The Accusations against IMM seem like something that can copy paste and use against all networks.. ie unless, IMM wins the lawsuit..

Copeac were running their own rebills.
 
One Question Smax..

Considering that "Every CPA Network" allowed Flogs, and Fake News landers and "Every CPA Network" had ACAI and Colon Rebill, aren't all Networks at the risk of FTC Ban Hammer at some point or the other?

Some networks are still asking Pubs to use Traditional Bizopp Landers, traditional meaning news9week.com

I am really not sure why FTC won't touch some Networks..
Your thoughts Smax??

The Accusations against IMM seem like something that can copy paste and use against all networks.. ie unless, IMM wins the lawsuit..

What Copeac is being sued by the FTC for is not being a network. They are being sued for being a publisher. They were running internal campaigns to pages they FTC claims are not compliant.

As for some networks still allowing articles/flogs I'm not sure why they're doing this. Or promoting this activity when FTC obviously has an issue with it.

We do not allow fake news sites since the FTC came down against them. What a "fake news" site is of course some what a nebulous thing. Where is the difference between a "news site" and an "article site". Article site being that of information but doesn't purport itself to be a news source. All these things need to be reviewed by competent legal counsel to make sure you're not crossing the line. If anyone is looking for a good legal team to review your stuff please PM me.

The thing about this world of advertising is money is relatively easy to make the sketchy way. But hard to hold on to. Build skills and knowledge and a team around you that will help you do things right and keep your money in the long term.
 
$17k due now.

My company is an Copeac affiliate for over 2 years where we have been generated more than 100k in revenue during this period. Unfortunately in the last 60 days we are having serious problems with payments and communications with this network.
We all have financial problems in our business as they might be having but what we really can not understand is the lack of communication and what would motivate a company with this size to adopt this posture with its older affiliates. We´ve tried several contacts but unfortunately the only thing we got were terrible excuses and false promises.
I´ve stopped the traffic last Saturday and, again, no communication has been made ​​until now. I hope this is resolved as soon as possible and will update here once it is done or not done.


Coming to a public forum was the last thing I wanted to do because I DO believe in talking and communicating as ways to solve problems but taking into consideration all I have seen so far it might be the only way to get through to them as other methods of communication were mostly ignored.